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"With heavy snow in places complicating relief efforts, as of Monday almost 30,000 people were living in some 400 government shelters, some of which were packed and struggling to provide adequate food, water and heating."

I just don't get it. Why were they not better prepared? It is never a question of "if", but "when", when it comes to big quakes, and it's unacceptable they have heating problems, inadequate food, etc. Seems like they are working awfully hard to find survivors and engage in other rescue activities, but I'm not seeing a lot of effort when it comes to the shelters. It's a pretty big nation... you'd think they'd be able to move the people elsewhere if the current shelters are so inadequately prepared and so cramped.

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The earthquake took place in the afternoon of the 1st but when did the SDF arrive?

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ldp shame on you

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Very wealthy country ,I often wonder where all the money gets spent, because it sure looks to me like the whole country is in a state of decay.

12 years living here.

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GeeWizzToday  07:36 pm JST

Very wealthy country ,I often wonder where all the money gets spent

Military spending and donations to wars that Japan has nothing to do with

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Iam sorry but this is disappointing and clearly incompetent.

What in particular did you find to be a display of incompetence? The earthquake, the tsunami, the roads that are not drive-able, the snow?

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Under normal circumstances, the Noto Peninsula is easily accessed by highways that go up to the Oku-Noto region which was devastated by these quakes and tsunamis, but even under normal conditions it takes hours to drive up the peninsula from Kanazawa or other bigger cities in good weather, and many of the smaller roads there are windy narrow roads through mountainous areas. From what contacts in the area have told me, those roads have all suffered severe damage and drop off into sinkholes or big fractures in the clay-like soil of that region in many places, plus there are traffic jams everywhere. Ports are also severely damaged, and helicopters can’t just land anywhere. With severe snows all of this becomes far more dangerous, and so part of the delay in reaching stranded people seems to have to do with all these logistics. Still, even given these circumstances, it’s surprising and disappointing that the current government hadn’t learned from 3-11 and prepared better means of getting much-needed aid and supplies to people wherever they are in this country, no matter how “remote,” as well as stockpiling more emergency rations, supplies, and better-equipped shelters everywhere in the event of severe emergencies like this— especially since there was so much seismic activity in that area over the past months and years. I worry this is more a case of regional, aging Japan being marginalized by the central government.

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How do you - at any point - mistakenly miscount 48 extra people as deceased?

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@smithinjapan I totally agree you would think that in a place where you are prone to the natural elements one would be prepared. If you make preparation for a tsunami and earthquake you should also be thinking about the seasons in which those catastrophic events can happen which is any time. I think Japan was prepared for the tsunami and earthquake but the winter season is something that they more than likely did not prepare for. I agree with the with the heavy snow in places and the roads damage along with the mud slides this made logistical problems worse. This event happened in the dead of winter and now the winter elements come into play now the rescuer's are dealing not with just rescue efforts but also cleanup efforts in the cold. Its not good. With 30,000 people now homeless and many probably not wanting to just pick up an go to another city, is something the government could have learn from when the Fukushima disaster happened many of the people didn't want to leave. My personal thought its an unfortunate incident and the thought of this event happening in the dead of winter is something that the Japanese disaster preparedness teams possibly over looked or didn't planned for a just in case scenario for something like this happening in the winter. Which has now contributed to almost 30,000 people living government shelters, packed and struggling with inadequate food, water and heating."

"With heavy snow in places complicating relief efforts, as of Monday almost 30,000 people were living in some 400 government shelters, some of which were packed and struggling to provide adequate food, water and heating."

I just don't get it. Why were they not better prepared? It is never a question of "if", but "when", when it comes to big quakes, and it's unacceptable they have heating problems, inadequate food, etc. Seems like they are working awfully hard to find survivors and engage in other rescue activities, but I'm not seeing a lot of effort when it comes to the shelters. It's a pretty big nation... you'd think they'd be able to move the people elsewhere if the current shelters are so inadequately prepared and so cramped.

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To all the haters; have you ever been to an active disaster or war zone?

Information is mostly word-of-mouth, and reports are constantly being revised as

new information arrives.

It is not as easy as referencing the census and resident registrations to the accounted for.

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How do you - at any point - mistakenly miscount 48 extra people as deceased?

When did this happen?

It did not. I misread. My error - 100% on me.

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I suggest doing some comparisons to how other countries deal with disasters of similar situations.

I'm simply curious what you find to be an example of incompetence. Care to enlighten us?

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I saw on YouTube a man who had lost his wife and three kids in a mudslide. This is truly horrible.

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apparently bc of Japan's penchant for cash there seems to be a significant number of looting, safe's being stolen, etc. anyone caught looting should be receive 3 times the regular punishment.

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The government response deserves criticism.

However, rescue and relief efforts, particularly those spearheaded by the SDF, are making a difference.

On January 3 PM Kishida mobilized the SDF, which currently numbers 6100 personnel in the area.

To date, the SDF has rescued 353, provided medical treatment to 300 and transport to 290 patients...

人命救助:救助353名

衛生支援:診療 約300名、患者輸送 約290名

輸送支援:糧食 約210,000食、飲料水 約231,700本、毛布 約9,900枚 燃料10,800L 等

給食支援:約3,730食

給水支援:約551t

入浴支援:入浴約420名

道路啓開:県道1号、6号、52号、57号、266号、285号及び国道249号の一部区間

(Source: MOD)

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kaimycahl: "My personal thought its an unfortunate incident and the thought of this event happening in the dead of winter is something that the Japanese disaster preparedness teams possibly over looked or didn't planned for a just in case scenario for something like this happening in the winter."

So... they think that earthquakes and disasters will cooperate based on the seasons? A believe a general rule is "prepare for the worst", no? I don't think it's "prepare for something a bit bad, but only in good weather!" In fact, I once asked the local neighborhood if I could play a victim in the earthquake drill, since it's entirely possible some foreigners might be involved in the real thing. The City said to me, "Thank you, but most of the volunteers can't speak English, so they might not be able to do the drills effectively if they find you and are surprised. We can only organize everything to go Saturday morning, so it needs to run smoothly." It's like the "simulations" where someone pretends to be a zebra trying to escape from the zoo, or a person attacking a school but according to a pre-agreed upon plan, including at which part to be caught. They rarely if ever expect or prepare for the worst, so when the unexpected hits, we have this again.

Again, I understand how weather conditions are hampering rescue efforts, but not why people stuck in crowded shelters with no food can't be taken elsewhere by some means if it's so desperate.

BRS: "On January 3 PM Kishida mobilized the SDF, which currently numbers 6100 personnel in the area."

Two days after the event. Reminds me of when they waited to accept help for the Japan Air crash 34 years or so ago, causing all that had survived to die, or waiting two or three days to start taking effective action at Fukushima causing one of the worst nuclear disasters in history.

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I saw on YouTube a man who had lost his wife and three kids in a mudslide. This is truly horrible.

Saw that. Felt awful to watch.

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Isn't one of the reasons why death tolls are so high in Japan because the elderly would often choose to be let die?

But I am also disappointed in the lack of preparedness in terms of stockpiled (or alternatively sourced) water and heating which are all something that should be priority in terms of the disaster ready checklist.

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VillanovaToday 02:05 am JST

@TaiwanIsNotChina

Obviously referring to the war between Ukraine and Russia. Why is Japan even involved unless it is expecting to open up a new side in Manchuria again?

If Ukraine falls, Xi will have more confidence in his military and Russia's support for an invasion of Taiwan.

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I guess it's more than $1 Japanese wooden homes on the markets that foreigners are desiring right now...

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TaiwanIsNotChina

If Ukraine falls, Xi will have more confidence in his military and Russia's support for an invasion of Taiwan.

What in the world does the earthquake have to do with either Ukrain, Russia, Xi, or Taiwan???

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