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Japan shows off naval power as U.S. signals wider engagement in western Pacific

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By Tim Kelly

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I wonder....response to the Chinese anniversary parade?

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The reason why this is important is because it offer the idea that chinese's naval is not yet supreme in pacific ocean.

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TR: The Maritime Self Defense Force designates it as a destroyer keeping it within the bounds of a pacifist constitution that forbids Japan from possessing the means to wage war such as force-projecting carriers.

It's that easy to sidestep?

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Surrounded by nations that prefer to pin Japan down, peace and stability in the region only can be achieved through strength and deterrence. Japan has to be prepared in facing of the fast changing world, and not for any aggressiveness act.

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We do not need US involvement in the Pacific. That will inevitably lead to war, nuclear war. That is what happens when there is US involvement.

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Yeah, because the US always scatters nuclear bombs around. Whenever they are involved in a problem they drop nukes to settle it. The only outcome from US involvement in foreign affairs is total nuclear annihilation.

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If you want peace, prepare for war.

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Viagra for flaccid politicians.

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That whole fleet should sail up both sides of the korean peninsula and demand north korea lay down its arms, surrender and let their people go free.

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Think of it another way, while its generally acknowledged that many a conservative will agree with putting money into our military its also fair to say that the majority of folks on the left do not support this.

Back in the great wars there was still a left and right and always will be, thing is, back then the left was not as rigid in their views as they are today, back then we worked together and won the good fight.

Freedom is the goal here people, all the other crap is a result of people having the choice to choose good or bad or right from wrong.

The way the world is today a country can not just simply choose to not be prepared because of some perceived moral superiority, especially if they are able to be.

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Fleet review AKA KanKan Shiki of the JMSDF takes place more or less every three years.

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gokai_wo_maneku We do not need US involvement in the Pacific. That will inevitably lead to war, nuclear war. That is what happens when there is US involvement.

Complain now or beg later

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The US spent a lot of blood and treasure, falsely IMO, in the "Domino Theory" Vietnam War to secure this trade route. This is serious business folks, letting China know who's boss is very important to the US because of China's new coral reef landing bases. This shouldn't be compared with the US's little CIA resource checker board games in the ME.

On the other hand, this could also be just Bread and Circus for the masses with full compliance between the US and China of "what's going to happen."

I'll say it again, no government can be trusted at this apex of corporate greed in the world. The secret TPP agreement should be all anyone needs to confirm this.

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That would be the secret TPP agreement which is about to be published in full?

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That would be the secret TPP agreement which is about to be published in full?

Published in full after 4 years of negotiations? Are you daft or is it just you don't understand the power of the lobbyist?

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Here is a better pic http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/japan/11939251/Japan-shows-off-its-naval-power-with-regional-fleet-review-in-pictures.html nothing like a bit of sabre rattling to calm the situation down.

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It's that easy to sidestep?

A helicopter carrier is not used force force projection.

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Don't worry China. Izumo is a helicopter carrier, not an aircraft carrier. It cannot project power far across the ocean.

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That's it...?

Uh-huh.

Who is this supposed to really scare...?, seriously... Japan would be much better off to just keep plugging away at its fantasy anime power projection (ala Yamato battleship).. as that's as "powerful" as the Jpn navy can ever become, LOL.

And if powerful, why hide behind American ships and navy (which experts have warned are getting left behind by rapid and secret Chinese naval broad-range advances).

Doubt very much Jpn's show of power would create even a bead of sweat but rather make the Chinese laugh. This Jpn-US alliance really is the biggest joke of the century, and Jpn is being played, LOL.

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ts: It's that easy to sidestep?

Yubaru: A helicopter carrier is not used force force projection.

See! Even you said "helicopter carrier"!

And:

http://forum.worldofwarships.eu/index.php?/topic/2668-ddh-183-izumo-helicopter-carrier-jmsdf/

In 2009, Japan announced plans to build two larger carriers. These were given the project number 22DDH, and displace in excess of 27,000 tons full load and are 815 feet long. The official name of the lead vessel is the Izumo, DDH-183, and so they will be the Izumo Class. They will hold quite a few more aircraft, their flight deck will be completely clear, with all weapons located on sponsons off deck or on the island, and they will have a larger, side mounted elevator on the aft, starboard side. In addition, the hanger has been enlarged considerably, about twice the square footage. These changes strongly emply that these vessels will embark VSTOL aircraft, potentially the F-35B Joint Strike Fighter being built by the United States should the Japanese elect to purchase any.

These changes also make it clear that they will also be able to support the V-22 Osprey VSTOL aircraft to be used for SAR, Recon and for troop transport. The V-22 Osprey already made cross-deck flights to the Hyuga Class and was taken below decks into the Hyuga hanger spaces in 2012.

The vessels are equipped with Phased Array Radars, full battle management capabilities, and link capabilities for cooperative engagements. They are also built to embark up to 500 troops and up to fifty vehicles if necessary for air assault as well, though there is no well deck and any vehicles will either be transported by air, or use RORO facilities to get off the ship.

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JDS Izumo is classified as a helicopter destroyer. The classification is based on the ship's mission, not what it looks like. Look it up. This publication reported as such in its coverage of the ship's commissioning.

B. It's my considered opinion that very few of the commentators here have any experience serving their respective countries militarily. I have been doing so for almost 40 years.

iii. I am very proud to say that I was a participant in this year's Fleet Review as a guest of the Japanese Maritime Self-Defense Force. They deserve a lot more respect than any of you are showing. You should be ashamed of yourselves.

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All these ships, aircraft carrier, destroyers, cruisers are actually becoming sitting ducks with all the new anti ship missles aiming at them. The more one shows, the more targets for the other side to shoot. Why even bother ? This is 2015 not 1945 ! Did people read military journals anymore?

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Japan has condoned its action in WW2 which was influenced by a militaristic view of attacking first or be attacked again by China that had invaded them twice with terrible result on smaller islands that was assaulted. Had China succeded it would have laid the entire insular population into a horrible fate from the combined Mongol, Chinese and Korean forces. An underlying fact is that the Western alliances sided with the one whom they could divest more in terms of trade as Japan was unassailable to their ventures. Now have China condoned their ancient actions?

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****A 248 m(813ft) ship a destroyer? Someone's having us on. Such a ship could easily operate the F35, in which case the ship would have an offensive capability. Who is going to invade Japan anyway? I'm sure the present SDF is quite capabale of repelling any threat-assuming their morale is up to it.

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If you have a gun, and don't use it, what is the purpose?

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Goodlucktoyou

If you have a gun, and don't use it, what is the purpose?

According your logic, If you have a nuke, and don't use it, what is the purpose?

The purpose is avoiding tragedies and unthinkable suffering of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Let' give a chance for peace.

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The Maritime Self Defense Force designates it as a destroyer keeping it within the bounds of a pacifist constitution that forbids Japan from possessing the means to wage war such as force-projecting carriers.

This is pretty silly. Ships usually get a down-graded title either to get them produced more easily, to smooth fears , or to get around regulations.

The first two could apply to Japan, "It's only a destroyer". The third, nope - it has little offensive capability.

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Star-viking: The first two could apply to Japan, "It's only a destroyer". The third, nope - it has little offensive capability.

Can host "400 troops and 50 3.5-ton trucks (or equivalent equipment)", can host STOVL F-35s, can host V-22s, can host assault helicopters.

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