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Nick Harrison
Hahahaha
my university just emailed me canceling my first vaccine shot (for the second time) due to lack of supply.
Michael O’ Dereiter
How many of us are still completely unvaccinated?
(Raises hand). Not through lack of trying, but there you go.
Fortunately my better half has had both of hers through her job, and she can't telework. So at least I have that to be grateful for.
Raw Beer
The vaccine side effects are much worse after the second dose compared to the first. I wonder how bad the effects will be after the 3rd, and 4th, and ....
Michael O’ Dereiter
my university just emailed me canceling my first vaccine shot (for the second time) due to lack of supply.
I like how a simple statement of fact already has two downvotes.
Guess the notion of Japan as a less than perfect country is hard for some weeabos to take.
ShinkansenCaboose
Recall when they said the order would be:
One: Medical
Two: Elderly
Three: Preexisting Conditions
*etc. on down to those in the 20's and younger?
Then they hit a serious glitch....where was the database for the pre-existing condition people? Whoops
Now businesses run by people that have contacts in the government are getting their workers and families inoculated ahead of a whole bunch of people that really need these shots. Shameful.
Jim
Classic case of deflective the poor roll out of first/second vaccine shots - to show the population how great and proactive the govt is that we are already planning for third shot and securing the supply...
Good PR stunt but in reality complete BS - first get your shxx together to finish the two initial doses for residents please??
snowymountainhell
Seems like November 2020, doesn’t it?
It’s “Deja vu, … all over again” !!
kurisupisu
And no, when numbers are falling why would more injections be necessary?
Fuzzy
For the posters getting worked up about this because many of us (myself included) still haven't got our first shot, note that they are studying this now so when the time is right it can be implemented. If they don't do the studies now, in a year from now we'll find ourselves in the same predicament again i.e. a delayed start making matters worse. I'm just as frustrated as the next, but I see this as a positive step.
It's becoming clear that this virus is with us for good now. We need to deal with that.
snowymountainhell
Had to switch to Apple. - Typed “Japan studies” in the search engine …
and the ‘pathetic’, local hardware overheated..
Third world..
Where can we get ‘real’ and ‘timely’ answers for origin and solution to these problems?
China ??
Michael O’ Dereiter
For the posters getting worked up about this because many of us (myself included) still haven't got our first shot, note that they are studying this now so when the time is right it can be implemented. If they don't do the studies now, in a year from now we'll find ourselves in the same predicament again i.e. a delayed start making matters worse. I'm just as frustrated as the next, but I see this as a positive step.
It's becoming clear that this virus is with us for good now. We need to deal with that.
That is very reasonable thinking. My only issue with it is that it assumes competence on the part of the people who are "studying this now".
Even if they are themselves competent, their conclusions will presumably have to be run through the national government, where common sense and competence are in even shorter supply than the vaccine itself.
Fuzzy
@Michael
I hear you. But, with incompetence in play, the sooner they start, the better!
NOMINATION
My town finally finished with those in their 60s and completely bypassed those from 20s to 50s and now doing Jr high and high schoolers.
justasking
Slots for Setagaya is fully booked. Luckily I got mine from work (2nd dose today).
Cricky
I got my fist 2 days ago, day after absolute disaster…it felt like someone had punched me in the arm. Oh the horror, stupid side effects. Although I must say my wife says I’m more beautiful then ever, oh the horror. Thank god for pre existing condition. My daughter and grand daughter have tested positive after a lunch at a maul. It only took 4 days to get a test. But it’s great news the government are having meetings about next year, By that time the meetings about this year should be ready to be winding down.
Commodore Perry
A study! Great, like the mock vaccination trials they held this past winter.
And what about the vaccine passports?
Embarrassing.
noriahojanen
Consider the mix of different vax products which might enhance the speedy rollout and effectiveness (according to some reported studies).
Cricky
I probably should have not made such light of it as I have friends overseas who felt like you or worse. I was ready for a fever in the middle of summer! I’m sorry I made light of my experience. My point is it doesn’t, hasn’t killed anyone I know. But definitely get a bad reaction and it’s not pleasant. Vid chatting with my daughter and grandchild and seeing how desperate they are for air. Makes me sick, but my wife and I can’t help without putting ourselves at risk. It is a frustrating experience.
Jonathan Prin
Useless to think about 3rd dose when not 90% of population has not been vaccinated yet.
It us just about statistics and maths calculations.
3rd dose just raises the efficiency of vaccin for 10 to 30 % more for an already reduced spreader. Not a big deal.
While vaccinating unvaccinated or one dose only, you gain 30 to 50% and reduce one more potential spreader.
Please get informed by CDC or specialists, not politicians
drlucifer
They haven't finished studying how to administer the first two shots, they have opened new studies on the 3rd.
Who can blame them, with a pathetic media, they are free to do as they wish as they know they won't be called out but may be praised for being caring of the populace.
Paul
Will get my second shot tomorrow, so will need a booster sometime in February of 2022.
Omachi
Double Pfizer’d but probably not protected more than the unvaxed due to chemo. Joined a Sept study to quantify antibodies, if any. A third jab next year may be too late given the current spread.
iraira
Some of the most vivid lucid dreams I have ever experienced accompanied the 38.3 fever after my second shot. Still unpacking what I was directing and visually interpreting in these dreams....would love to get a 3rd shot.
Cricky
To be fair it does take 12 months for the ministry to actually understand the information given to them, another 12 months for the minister to find a way to escape any responsibility so I do understand how it works, so a study they will ignore rather than action, could take 15 years to happen. That’s how these dudes roll.
TokyoJoe
Had my first pfizer jab last month, zero side effects. Although I think Im sure I already had covid once in early 2020, very unusual sore throat high fever for three days and complete body aches, doctor tested me for influenza and came back negative. That was due to a job I was doing at the time involving lining up with hundreds of Chinese with very questionable hygiene standards.
Richard Gallagher
Anecdotal accounts, mostly from individuals with a penchant for mithering, about 'reactions' to the second shot. Or the first shot. Not a typical reaction to vaccinations for SARSCoV-2. Though having a needle thrust into one's muscles (if you have any) certainly may cause later discomfort.
Pfizer and Moderna are highly effective. Also, 'work' against the variants in the ninety percent range.
Interestingly, Pfizer has yet to complete research as to the need for a booster shot and when.
The current government, that has done a less than worthy job rolling out the current administration of the vaccine. That allowed the Olympics to occur. That launched the quite mad, GoToTravel. Ignored again and again the science about the virus, is all-of-the-sudden qualifying itself to adjudge the use of a third inoculation. That is amusing. If it weren't such a 'deadly' undertaking.
EBP
The dominant variants will be more vaccine-resistant by the time their "studies" lead to any policy. Then more months to prepare paper coupons. More months to distribute supply. This is a silly discussion. Yes, boosters will be necessary. Japan should be laser-focused on producing them domestically. It has the brainpower and money to do it.
Katheryn
I read that the vaccine starts to weaken after 6 months so to be most effective we’d need the booster to be available as soon as January for people who were able to get early vaccines.
https://www.google.co.jp/amp/s/www.wsj.com/amp/articles/moderna-says-vaccine-remains-effective-for-six-months-11628165429
smithinjapan
I think they mean studying other countries doing it, while they finally give their first to the majority of the nation.
Mordac
Judging by the number of infections in highly vaccinated countries like Israel, USA, UK will need boosters before next year.
The Russian vaccine is the only safe and highly effective vaccine. If Japan doesn't order it for political reasons, this nightmare will continue until herd immunity the old-fashioned way. That is, a very large % of the population getting infected and dying or recovering and gaining immunity for at least a few years.
Mark
It sure looks like COVID is NOT planning on departing any time soon, so butter be prepared than sorry.
Anonymist
Yeah, sign me up. My two were NBD. Whatever it takes to save lives and get back to normal because I'm so tired of it all.