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Japan suspends new reservations on all incoming flights

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Who flies from Peru to Japan, via Doha?!! Huh?

Many people, and essentially everybody who doesn't want to transit in the US.

25 ( +26 / -1 )

Monty misunderstanding the point of vaccinations there. Monty, they don’t necessarily stop you getting coronavirus, but they will almost certainly stop you dying or having severe symptoms.

24 ( +38 / -14 )

*"All the remaining 114 passengers on the flight tested negative and are being monitored by health authorities, most of them at a government-designated facility."*

and the others?

The others were Japnese nationals so don't pose a virus risk, they are already on the rush hour trains, in pointless 2 hour long teeth sucking meetings and unwinding over a few highballs with their colleagues in cramped Karaoke rooms. What could go wrong?

19 ( +23 / -4 )

"All the remaining 114 passengers on the flight tested negative and are being monitored by health authorities, most of them at a government-designated facility."

and the others?

17 ( +20 / -3 )

I am just saying that if fully vaccinated people are getting sick now from the new strain, even they are fully vaccinated, many people will question the sense of taking the current available vaccine.

Fully vaccinated people have been getting sick from Covid symptoms since there were fully vaccinated people. This is not due to any new variant.

Creating a drama out of it now is disingenuous.

Also, as you have been told, “getting sick” for the fully vaccinated generally means mild flu like symptoms. As all recent reports on Omicron have stated, including the one above I presume you read before commenting on.

12 ( +18 / -6 )

All the remaining 114 passengers on the flight tested negative and are being monitored by health authorities, most of them at a government-designated facility.

Wait, back up. What exactly do they mean by "most of them"?? I sincerely hope this is a typo and that ALL of the passengers on that flight were quarantined with no exceptions.

10 ( +13 / -3 )

What happens to a foreigner who rents an apartment here and now can’t get back into the country? Will the Japanese government help pay for that persons rent since they can’t enter the country? Does anyone know if this has happened in the past when the virus first hit Japan?

@Tequa Sunrise - it happened to two coworkers of mine, one of whom was stuck outside of Japan for almost 6months but still had to pay her rent, bills, social insurance etc. It was galling, ths situation Japan put her in so I wasn't at all surprised that when she finally was able to return, she made the right decision to pack up and go home. If this is how J-gov treats its expat residents, then why bother contributing to the Japanese economy and society?

10 ( +11 / -1 )

Another point Bob is, what do you expect from an effective vaccine?

Just not to die?

That’s basically it yes.

I guess each single person has a different expectation from being fully vaccinated.

Because they have been getting not enough or the wrong information.

7 ( +15 / -8 )

Borders are only closed to tourists, if you have a PR, spouse visa or Japanese kids (and not from a handful of countries) you can still get in.

I praise Japan for the common sence in not spliting up international families at the border in this case.

7 ( +10 / -3 )

Japan suspends new reservations on all incoming flights

Same thing happened when there was covid outbreak in 2020, will Japan do the same thing for any new variant that show up in the future?

6 ( +10 / -4 )

It's excessive, arbitrary and not legally grounded. The government is just again "asking" airline companies for cooperation without any emergency laws, without compensations for business loss. if sued for trial over damages, the government would easily lose the case.

5 ( +9 / -4 )

flights may be canceled if there are insufficient passengers

Something deliciously oxymoronic here (if only we could be @rsed).

4 ( +4 / -0 )

"Japan banned all foreign visitors starting Tuesday" yet "Those who have already made reservations are not affected" えっ?

3 ( +12 / -9 )

Overreacting is what Japan does best.

3 ( +13 / -10 )

Question so you think it’s wrong for people to make a big deal out of the fact that fully vaccinated individuals are catching the virus…

After all this time and the information for a year, people still don’t understand that the vaccines prevent severe symptoms, reduce hospitalizations and reduce deaths?

We’re doomed as species.

3 ( +8 / -5 )

@Ellone - Call the embassy, Japan has actually thought about this for once and it seems they are not spliting up families at the border - As long as you are married, not sure about defacto with kids.... but I could see someone doing their job too well and only allowing spouse visa's as well - just call and find out.

3 ( +4 / -1 )

Update 12/02 11:40AM JST

JGov just cancelled this ridiculous order.

3 ( +3 / -0 )

Japan has asked international airlines to stop taking new reservations for all flights arriving in Japan until the end of December as the country further tightens its border controls against a new coronavirus variant, the transportation ministry said Wednesday.

Wise move.

Now you have to fly to Taiwan and take a cab to Japan.

2 ( +5 / -3 )

Typical Japan gov, telling one glimmer of hope thing and then passivley cancelling it out in the same freakin sentence - 'Oh, residents and citizens who have a reservation in Dec can come back' ... 'Airlines might cancel the flight though' They are basically saying they have influence to 'urge' the Airlines to cancel the flights. Hideous and downright sinister.

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first if you left the country during the middle of a pandemic then thats on you.

second there is a thing called international Telegraphic / Bank transfer to the landlord, if your J landlord wont accept that,then you can do a transfer to your own bank account in Japan and then transfer it online domestically to your landlord. Just because youre not in Japan doesnt mean you dont need to pay your rent.

Wow, do you lack a soul. First of all, some people HAD to leave due to family emergencies, commitments etc. Second of all, no, you should not have to continue paying rent and contributing the social and pension program when the Japanese government has forcibly kept you out of the country and stranded for months on end and your livelihood is in Japan but you can't go to work because you're stuck outside the country. Show a little empathy; expats have lives and commitments in both their current place of residence and their country of birth and even during a pandemic, sometimes you need to go home to see out these commitments in-person.

2 ( +6 / -4 )

Japan banned all foreign visitors starting Tuesday. Prime Minister Fumio Kishida said the step is an emergency precaution against the new variant. The ban tentatively extends through the end of the year. The government is also requiring Japanese citizens arriving in the country to quarantine for up to 14 days.

And that's the stumbling block. Imagine a situation - a Japanese citizen and a citizen of a foreign country go on a trip together. To any place. They'll be together the whole time, one room in a hotel, not a step apart. Then they want to return to Japan (citizen of a foreign country on a trip here, not a visa holder, etc). The citizen is allowed in, the foreigner is not. Even though they both meet the same criteria. Few of the geniuses give it a second thought. That the virus will just keep on spreading and it won't care what citizenship someone has. And now it doesn't matter that a foreigner just won't look here. It's the principle - that ignores the fact that a citizen can bring the contamination here.

I see it more as a populist gesture and a symbolic washing of their hands over the whole situation.

And perhaps also as a distraction from the core of the situation to something secondary - "newcomers, especially tourists and foreigners. After all, we let our citizens in!"

2 ( +2 / -0 )

Already retracted to allow Japanese to get home. No mention of foreign residents. I dislike this guy already.

「国土交通省において、新規予約の一律受け付け停止の要請を取りやめ、邦人の帰国需要について十分配慮するよう航空会社へ改めて通知した」と述べた。

https://news.yahoo.co.jp/articles/a346e206ea44dedfd46f6c07f817544e6993792f

2 ( +2 / -0 )

Who resides in Japan and has a rental apartment, then leaves with no return flight booked?

Seems like a lot of unprepared people trying to push the blame onto others.

1 ( +8 / -7 )

I’ve noticed you tend to get upset when people question your comments. 

I’m not upset at all. You mentioned you were a psychology and sociology major. Interesting projection, worth looking into perhaps.

Bob it’s another beautiful day! Take a deep breath go outside and enjoy life!

Not necessary.

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I am just saying that if fully vaccinated people are getting sick now from the new strain, even they are fully vaccinated, many people will question the sense of taking the current available vaccine.

I guess, that if more news are coming out, that fully vaccinated people are getting sick by the new strain, more and more people will refuse the current available vaccine.

As long as the current vaccine protects you of getting sick from the new strain, everything is fine.

But so far it doesn't look like that.

We have to wait another few weeks, to see how strong is the current available vaccine against the new strain.

And until then I 100% support Japan's decision to close its borders.

man i gave you my siganture.101% agree.

1 ( +3 / -2 )

I love my fam,for the most part.But no way,no how would I leave Japan for any reason at this time,to go see them.If you go and can't get back in.It's on you.With technology today,you can still see them.When I first came here,a quick phone call on Xmas Day had to suffice.Today you've got the Internet. Being brave doesn't mean you go looking for trouble.

First of all, love The Lion King reference. Secondly, while the internet is great to stay in touch, it doesn't recreate that feeling and atmosphere of actually being home for the holidays. You can't exactly eat Christmas dinner through your computer screen. Japan closing its borders had dashed any and all chances of a getting together with family for the hols.

1 ( +5 / -4 )

What happens to a foreigner who rents an apartment here and now can’t get back into the country? Will the Japanese government help pay for that persons rent since they can’t enter the country? Does anyone know if this has happened in the past when the virus first hit Japan?

@Tequa Sunrise - it happened to two coworkers of mine, one of whom was stuck outside of Japan for almost 6months but **still had to pay her rent, bills, social insurance etc. It was galling, ths situation Japan put her in so I wasn't at all surprised that when she finally was able to return, she made the right decision to pack up and go home. If this is how J-gov treats its expat residents, then why bother contributing to the Japanese economy and society?**

I think such cases are qualified for state-sponsored corona relief fund programmes regardless of applicants' nationality or legal status. Besides, landowners are entitled to the subsidy for the sake of covering undue/overdue rents (but it could be possible for some landowners to cheat on the relief program not notifying to tenants under crisis). Better check things out.

1 ( +1 / -0 )

Monty

I guess each single person has a different expectation from being fully vaccinated.

Mine is to stay safe and healthy, which means even mild symptoms are not Ok for me if I am fully vaccinated.

Of course, better than dying or getting hospitalized, but not OK.

Shouldn't your expectation be based in reality though? I would advise against having unrealistic expectations.

1 ( +3 / -2 )

Why would airlines listen to a request? Their job is to make money, not do what the Japanese government wants

because its a mandate, if a company knowing imports or infects people with variants then theyre liable for their actions. If governments shut down the airports what are airlines going to do!?

1 ( +2 / -1 )

@gogogo

And what if you have a long-term work visa (5 years), but you're a spouse is Japanese international? Can't find any information on this... I really wish they made this clear.

0 ( +2 / -2 )

The Japanese government doesn't do what it does out of "racism" (as has been mentioned) but out of a sense of being uniquely different in such a way that its people and culture must be protected. The odd gaijin who makes it big in Japan is beloved because it makes the Japanese feel good about themselves, but an entire class of immigrants will never be allowed to be successful in such a way that threatens the power structure.

0 ( +6 / -6 )

@Monty

I mean if you are hospitalized with serious symptoms even you are fully vaccinated, is that Ok for you?

This is exactly what’s NOT happening.

0 ( +4 / -4 )

This actually might be good in a way - as they are also banning Japanese people from getting in, there should be a huge outcry and this over the top 'measure' might cause them to back pedalon a nother dumb decision (and not for the 100th time either) But if no outcry, or it is muted, then things could only get worse with how they are isolating the entire country, following CH basically.

0 ( +1 / -1 )

Why would airlines listen to a request? Their job is to make money, not do what the Japanese government wants.

0 ( +2 / -2 )

Time to forget about traveling abroad and instead think where to spend the holidays within japan. All this gloom is pointless anyway. Might as well just enjoy the holidays here. Ginzan Onsen might sound nice. Shame i couldn't go to the kitami festival this year. Too busy and way too cold for me.

0 ( +2 / -2 )

Yesterday's thread was full of calling Japan racist and xenophobe.

This development shows they aren't doing this out of racism. Not being able to book flights is designed to stop even Japanese from coming back. Since they cannot be turned away once they arrive, this is the best workaround they can do.

-1 ( +11 / -12 )

Developed a fever and sore throat huh? Nasty stuff that.

At some point, don't we have to say 'screw it' and just let people have a little time off from work instead of crippling the world economy?

-1 ( +10 / -11 )

"all NEW NEW NEW foreigners" is that si much difficult to write?

Japan is on the blacklist from countries such as Switzerland with 10 days quarantine.

-1 ( +2 / -3 )

The World Health Organization warned Monday that the global risk from the omicron variant is "very high" based on early evidence, saying it could lead to surges with "severe consequences."

Not what the health experts are saying in South Africa. Gotta keep the fear going.

-1 ( +4 / -5 )

...Until the end of December.

Don't the VAST majority of Japanese travelers who leave for international destinations over the New Year's break leave in December but...come back in January? Hmm...

Still, I would definitely hesitate to make any international plans for travel now, especially since Kishida has shown he will not be seen as weak on COVID like his limp predecessor...

-1 ( +2 / -3 )

dmhondzToday  11:40 am JST

Update 12/02 11:40AM JST

JGov just cancelled this ridiculous order.

Thanks for the update; valuable and timely information.

-1 ( +1 / -2 )

If some expats still have a chance to go back to their countries for good now could be the time.

The situation in Japan was already fragile for the foreign community with so little rights and many duties.

Japan became in the last years neither a suitable or good choice to live due to a huge variants of discrimination and violations of human rights.

Even long term residents feels no more save about their visas or rights.

-2 ( +9 / -11 )

I’ve mentioned this before, those travel plans would and have been short lived. Keep complying I guess

if you dont comply you dont get to travel, simple as that. traveling , unmasked, unvaccinated, with no testing and no quarantine period is something only an antivaxxer would dream of during a pandemic

-2 ( +2 / -4 )

It's a known risk to fly internationally in a pandemic.

exactly if you want to travel during a pandemic and your livelihood is in the country or origin,

then you take that gamble.

-2 ( +1 / -3 )

Over 75% of Japanese have been vaccinated and the COVID cases have dropped like a stone. The holidays are fast approaching and Japan deserves to pat itself on the back. Good job, Japan!

-3 ( +1 / -4 )

Who resides in Japan and has a rental apartment, then leaves with no return flight booked?

Seems like a lot of unprepared people trying to push the blame onto others.

Someone who likes to worry a lot apparently. Fear as you know causes anxiety which in turn can have a detrimental effect on the the body.

-4 ( +6 / -10 )

Good, good Japan!

-5 ( +4 / -9 )

What happens to a foreigner who rents an apartment here and now can’t get back into the country? Will the Japanese government help pay for that persons rent since they can’t enter the country?

first if you left the country during the middle of a pandemic then thats on you.

second there is a thing called international Telegraphic / Bank transfer to the landlord, if your J landlord wont accept that,then you can do a transfer to your own bank account in Japan and then transfer it online domestically to your landlord. Just because youre not in Japan doesnt mean you dont need to pay your rent.

-7 ( +2 / -9 )

@newgirlintown

I know that.

I am just saying that if fully vaccinated people are getting sick now from the new strain, even they are fully vaccinated, many people will question the sense of taking the current available vaccine.

I guess, that if more news are coming out, that fully vaccinated people are getting sick by the new strain, more and more people will refuse the current available vaccine.

As long as the current vaccine protects you of getting sick from the new strain, everything is fine.

But so far it doesn't look like that.

We have to wait another few weeks, to see how strong is the current available vaccine against the new strain.

And until then I 100% support Japan's decision to close its borders.

-9 ( +11 / -20 )

Not to worry! The EU could make vaccines mandatory. And Austria has already announced it. We're saved!

-12 ( +3 / -15 )

@Bob

We were talking in the past about being fully vaccinated and get infected and spread the virus.

We did not talk about being fully vaccinated and getting sick.

That is a big difference!

-13 ( +7 / -20 )

Who flies from Peru to Japan, via Doha?!! Huh?

-14 ( +10 / -24 )

Another point Bob is, what do you expect from an effective vaccine?

Just not to die?

I mean if you are hospitalized with serious symptoms even you are fully vaccinated, is that Ok for you?

Or if you go out to your normal life and you get infected, even you are fully vaccinated, but just some mild symptoms like fever or cough came out. Is that OK for you?

Or do you want to stay complete safe and healthy after you got fully vaccinated?

I guess each single person has a different expectation from being fully vaccinated.

Mine is to stay safe and healthy, which means even mild symptoms are not Ok for me if I am fully vaccinated.

Of course, better than dying or getting hospitalized, but not OK.

-20 ( +6 / -26 )

The second patient, who was fully vaccinated, tested positive for the coronavirus 

but has since developed a fever and sore throat

Fully vaccinated and showed symptoms...

With such news, more and more people will get suspicious if it makes sense to take this vaccine.

-25 ( +16 / -41 )

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