Japan approves Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine for 12- to 15-year-olds

By the time they get around to vaccinating those 12- to 15-year-olds, they'll be in the 65+ group.

Doesn't even make sense.

Why don't just read the papers of Pfizer, they have done manny trials

manny times before.

Are the Japanese people other species? Can drugs behave different upon the place where you were born?

Japan is receiving enough Pfizer vaccines for 97 million people.

After you’ve used those you can start thinking about the 12-15 year olds. Shake a leg.

So have they finished vaccinating health care workers ?

lol-ing here at the logic of these decisions makers. Always think do things backwards

When do they plan to release version from 0-5 and 6-11 age groups or however they plan on

What’s the difference?

Might as well approve all ages from 0 - 100 and beyond!

It doesn’t matter if no one in any age group isn’t getting it!

Paracetamol is compulsory 7,8 hours after taking vaccine if you don't want to have headache, body ache and fever.

A week ago when i had Pfizer, didn't even feel anything on my arm, i even got suspicious whilst i was waiting for 15 mins, i was like, did he really do it or not? I saw people with the bangage wrapped around their arm but not on mine. Then 7,8 hours later, started to get fever and body ache and headache. Tried to avoid any tablets but next day got even worse, so had to take Paracetamol.

Ridiculous decision. Have not made a right one yet, why stop now.

Fine, approve it, but quit with the PR that makes it sound like it's going to happen anytime soon!

I have a friend, who "applied" for his and his wife's 1st shot, almost a month ago, they are currently "scheduled" to receive their 1st shot around June 26th, almost 2 months after they applied!

Paracetamol is compulsory 7,8 hours after taking vaccine if you don't want to have headache, body ache and fever.

Aspirin, or acetaminophen, same thing!

Aspirin, or acetaminophen, same thing!

No, no, no. Aspirin and acetaminophen (or paracetamol) are different.

Soon we have more announcements and approvals than viruses. lol

So, do you want us to clap for a job well done?

I am confused. I don't see hardly any 12-15 year old infected and/or in the hospital? Am I missing something?

Doesn't even make sense.

Why don't just read the papers of Pfizer, they have done manny trials

manny times before.

Are the Japanese people other species? Can drugs behave different upon the place where you were born?

Japanese officials know that Pfizer and other pharmas lie. Over the past 20 years, Pfizer has been fined (for falsifying data, bribes...) 71 times for a total of $4,660,896,333. Doing additional trials internally to confirm overseas data is not irrational.

Regarding the vaccines themselves, I find it very sad that some will vaccinate 12 to 15 year olds. In Japan, there is yet to be any serious cases or deaths due to Covid19 among the below 20 year olds (after over 75,000 confirmed infections). There is no need to take any of these vaccines for which nobody knows the long term effects.

The benefits of the vaccines might outweigh the risks for old or unhealthy people, but for healthy 12 to 15 year olds, it's just not right.

Japanese officials know that Pfizer and other pharmas lie.

That would be completely irrelevant, the data available from the vaccine safety and efficacy do not comes from Pfizer, but from literally hundreds of sources all over the world, many that are more strict and worth of trust than a local trial.

I find it very sad that some will vaccinate 12 to 15 year olds

That is because of your personal reasons, when your fixed conclusion is that is is impossible for vaccines to be safe and that is impossible from anybody to be at a higher risk from COVID, that makes you reach invalid conclusions. Fortunately most of the public and specially the experts do not have that handicap and can easily recognize the need for many children to be protected from a disease than can be lethal for them, specially if that protection comes from something proved to be safe.

They’ll be pensioners by the time it’s their turn for the vaccine. Approving vaccines is pointless if you do not deliver them to the populace.

Japanese officials know that Pfizer and other pharmas lie.

That would be completely irrelevant, the data available from the vaccine safety and efficacy do not comes from Pfizer, but from literally hundreds of sources all over the world, many that are more strict and worth of trust than a local trial.

Yeah, but the billions in fines that Pfizer has paid were not only for falsifying their own data, but also for bribing. All data and decisions based on these trials should be taken with a grain of salt, especially when such massive profits are at stake.

Do you think they would notice if I said I was 15 years old?!!!

Yeah, but the billions in fines that Pfizer has paid were not only for falsifying their own data, but also for bribing.

So you think is logical to assume Pfizer bribed the whole world with trillions over trillions of dollars to make a few billions on profits? that is even more irrational. Specially because for that you need to assume all of those well recognized institutions dedicated to human health preservation are in the conspiracy.

There is a point where a conspiracy stops making any sense, when you need all the scientific and medical community to be "in the conspiracy" that point is long in the past.

Wait, is this the punchline?

Yeah, but the billions in fines that Pfizer has paid were not only for falsifying their own data, but also for bribing.

So you think is logical to assume Pfizer bribed the whole world with trillions over trillions of dollars to make a few billions on profits?

You know very well that it doesn't require all that much.

Although it all sounds scientific and sophisticated, it’s IMO nothing else than a stupid try and error ‘strategy’. Let’s see how it works with seniors, let’s see how with women under 60, oops some die from blood clots, how with young men, again oops some severe heart muscle inflammations, children 12-16 next, younger children later or never… I am not an anti-vaxxer, but even less I am keen on being an experimental shrimp, chimp or Guinea pig. Take care, everyone, too.

You know very well that it doesn't require all that much.

No I don't because I don't spend time trying to imagine completely unrealistic scenarios where every single authority involved in the testing of vaccines in every country accepts money to make their own friends and family receive supposedly dangerous vaccines. Reality simply depends on much less convoluted and irrational assumptions.

I am not an anti-vaxxer, but even less I am keen on being an experimental shrimp, chimp or Guinea pig. Take care, everyone, too.

If you think people are being experimented on (something obviously false) then you are part of the experiment, in the future a control group would still be necessary to see what extra problems the new variants caused on unvaccinated people. People that failed to see how the vaccines have been much safer than the infection in every population they have been used will fill that role.

Paracetamol is compulsory 7,8 hours after taking vaccine if you don't want to have headache, body ache and fever.

No it isn’t. Had my first jab a week ago, no headache, no body ache, no fever, no nothing. Just carried on with life as usual.

good point is that we can test experimental vaccines on children and know after 10 years if there are serious side effects.

I am confused. I don't see hardly any 12-15 year old infected and/or in the hospital? Am I missing something?

I heard lately some under 15 years old are infected badly by new variant and hospitalized, so in near future more teenagers may be infected and hospitalized in ICU. It seems to me Japan took one step ahead in case.

https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/2021/05/25/the-fda-cover-up-that-led-to-the-approval-of-the-pfizer-vaccine/

pure insanity considering anyone under 30 has a microscopic chance of dying from Covid and the startling numbers of Myocarditis.

Any parent subjecting their kid to this insanity needs to wake up.

You're going to apply some cocktail of drugs to you Kids about which you don't know the long term effects of ? Do they have a choice ?

Are they even old enough to make such a decision ?

So our tax doesn't cover the cost for vaccine? We have to pay for it? What a bloody scam.

Some people taking this news as negative.

Surprised, not really. Typical view on JT.

We could invent a cure for cancer and this people will still find a way to complain.

https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/2021/05/25/the-fda-cover-up-that-led-to-the-approval-of-the-pfizer-vaccine/

So one person can't investigate the operative meaning of a suspected case during the trials and instead of assume the natural thing (a suspected case would be anyone that had any symptom that could indicate COVID, even if tests came back negative later), this person choose to believe all the data from millions of people vaccinated in the general population is false and actually the vaccine was not effective in the phase III trials?

pure insanity considering anyone under 30 has a microscopic chance of dying from Covid and the startling numbers of Myocarditis

Not at all, since the risk of dying from the immunization are much less than dying from the disease (which by the way actually produce myocarditis on children). Specially because many children have an increased risk of actually dying from the disease and benefit from the immunization as part of the vulnerable population.

You're going to apply some cocktail of drugs to you Kids about which you don't know the long term effects of ? Do they have a choice ?

Compared with the cocktail of "drugs" the infection produce in the body to mess up with the immune system a vaccine is a completely benign thing. Specially because the disease already have proved long term or even permanent negative effects while the vaccine haven't. Vaccinating is the actual rational choice since it reduces the risk for immunized people.

No government should experiment with untested (phase III) vaccines, with especially when we are talking about children. Especially when there is no birth rate in the country.

Not at all, since the risk of dying from the immunization are much less than dying from the disease (which by the way actually produce myocarditis on children). Specially because many children have an increased risk of actually dying from the disease and benefit from the immunization as part of the vulnerable population.

thats 180 degrees from the truth.

Death from Covid is practically unheard of in children so young. Almost totally nonexistent (except in a few cases where there were significant co-morbidities)

Going on a year and a half wrong at every turn, Rex.

That HAS to be some sort of record.

I imagine China taking it on the chin this week has been difficult as well.

If Pfizer really believed their "experimental' vaccine were as safe as they claim it to be, they shouldn't have any objections to voluntarily submitting to legal liability in the event that the vaccine injured or killed recipients.

Some people taking this news as negative.

Surprised, not really. Typical view on JT.

We could invent a cure for cancer and this people will still find a way to complain.

so this news is positive for you ?

so I guess you will immediately bring your children to take a shot, right ?

virusrexToday  09:27 pm JST

If you really believe the vaccine is safe and have got kids, then by all means get them vaccinated. I'm so curious, I can't wait to see the results.

thats 180 degrees from the truth.

Death from Covid is practically unheard of in children so young. Almost totally nonexistent (except in a few cases where there were significant co-morbidities)

No, not practicaly unheard, that would be deaths directly related to vaccination, there are children with immune problems or cancer, of proclivity to infections because of many other reasons that are at a very high risk of death from COVID, the vaccine helps them very importantly. And every regular kid gets a reduction of their risk anyway. After all this would not be the first vaccine that is used for children to prevent a disease that don't kill any children. The vaccines never produce the countless deaths predicted by antivaxxers, they have bee much more effective at preventing complications, deaths and even transmission contrary to what science deniers said they would be, the same as with masks or lockdowns you can repeat as much as you like that everybody (including the scientific and medical consensus) is wrong, that does not make it less mistaken.

so this news is positive for you ?

Yes, a vaccine demonstrating efficacy and safety it is a very positive thing, for all except for people that wish for people to die just to be right about their mistaken ideas about vaccines.

If Pfizer really believed their "experimental' vaccine were as safe as they claim it to be, they shouldn't have any objections to voluntarily submitting to legal liability in the event that the vaccine injured or killed recipients.

Pfizer has plenty of legal liabilities, they actually would have to fight against the government that has specialists testing every lot of vaccines they produce, exactly the same they do for every other vaccine used for humans. Another completely different thing is that the government is willing to absorb one single kind of liability to make sure people can get compensation without problems at the same time that a safe and effective measure to protect public health don't get swamped out by lawsuits even if the company wins every one.

"No it isn’t. Had my first jab a week ago, no headache, no body ache, no fever, no nothing. Just carried on with life as usual."

Same as my mum.

She says she didn't even feel the pricking of the needlee and she's had 2 doses of a Pfizer.

There is talk of a third-round sometime next year.

Paracetamol is recommended, but only if you need it, e.g. you have flu-like symptoms.

Had my first Pfizer on the 21st, and suffered from a sore upper arm for a day and a half. No big deal though.

The needle is extra slim so I didn't feel much, apart from a ball of liquid suddenly forcing a space in my arm muscle. The doc said not to rub it or massage it, though.

If it's fine for 12-15 year olds, then great.

If you really believe the vaccine is safe and have got kids, then by all means get them vaccinated. I'm so curious, I can't wait to see the results.

If you do not vaccinate your children you are putting them at great risk of death or permanent disability. The any vaccine movement is a like a medieaval death cult.

Mitch Benn has a song about it, pre-covid. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YCGMqp6kBE

As for the side effects (or no side effects) issue, it seems to affect people differently.

My doctor friend had a bad fever and headache after the first dose, but pretty mild symptoms after the second.

A woman acquaintance of mine really went down after her second dose.

A few with hardly any symptoms after both doses.

If you do not vaccinate your children you are putting them at great risk of death or permanent disability. The any vaccine movement is a like a medieaval death cult.

Mine has all the usual vaccinations. As I do.

The corona vaccines are not approved by the FDA and are only tolerated under emergency rules.

Anyone w a brain understands children are not at risk from corona, don't need it, and indeed would be putting their children health at risk if they injected them with it.

The only cult around are those who will do whatever the government tells them to do.

Sheep.

Most private medical insurance policies will not cover injury or death resulting from "experimental" medical treatments in general and the COVID vaccines in particular. Clearly a vote of confidence from the medical insurance establishment.

Children do not require an experimental medicine whose long term side effects are misunderstood or unknown. They are not the demographic at risk from Covid , nor or is there evidence they are spreading the virus in any measurable way.

The “vaccine” infomercial posters work much too hard flogging their pseudo science and murky facts. They have neither the facts other than the Big Pharma narrative.

This is just another move to push mandatory inoculations on elementary school age children, or they won’t be able to attend school at all.

The teachers and school staff are adults that can make adult decisions. If they want to make a decision on the experimental medication they desire to protect themselves, so be it.

But leave children out of this.

My antivaxxer losers, accept it and stop fighting, always losing..LOOOOL !!..

There is no fight. There is debate. I would like to further comment on your opinion, but this venue insists on civility.

Children do not require an experimental medicine whose long term side effects are misunderstood or unknown. They are not the demographic at risk from Covid , nor or is there evidence they are spreading the virus in any measurable way.

First, the vaccine is no longer experimental (at least not unless you consider every drug ever as also experimental) and have a much lower risk of long term side effects when compared with the natural infection, also children are also included in some of the vulnerable population at risk and this data is very important to allow those children at risk to get a very necessary protection. There is also plenty of evidence they can spread the virus the same other infected person, even without symptoms.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/science/science-briefs/transmission_k_12_schools.html

Most private medical insurance policies will not cover injury or death resulting from "experimental" medical treatments in general and the COVID vaccines in particular.

Any source for this? because the vaccines are not considered experimental but are used for their therapeutic value, and there are not reports of insurance refusing coverage.

Anyone w a brain understands children are not at risk from corona, don't need it, and indeed would be putting their children health at risk if they injected them with it.

Again, this would not be the first vaccine for children that prevents a disease that kills no children, and in reality some do die from the disease, even with heavy preventive measures to protect them. You may be perfectly fine with letting these children unprotected to die from the infection, but obviously their parents are not.

Virusrex, you and I both know that these vaccines were pushed onto the public prematurely. They waived the normal (and lengthy) final phase of clinical trial to expedite this deployment.

The rationale was under an “emergency mandate” so aptly named as Warp Speed. A development and deployment circumventing normal protocols . In addition, legal recourse against Big Pharma was waived in the event of a mishap. So denial of this is more misinformation posted by bloggers.

So please don’t paste CDC and Industry shill “data” on long term or speculative results. The complete data is not there yet. If it were, a normal approval process would have been successful achieved.

Regarding the subject of children inoculated at such a young age: Please show us the data where this demographic is at risk? Where exactly are the mortality and life threatening figures that demonstrate an emergency is at hand in children? One that warrants a “Warp Speed” response.

I would think more casualties from bicycle accidents have occurred . Maybe an experimental vaccine to reduce those incidents is in order as well.

I am not an “anti-vaxxer”. I support and acknowledge the positive impact vaccines have made over the last century . But I also am cautious of recklessness and involuntary trials forced on people by the ones that most benefit.

Something you should examine more carefully in between lectures.

There is also plenty of evidence they can spread the virus the same other infected person, even without symptoms.

So I highly recommend you get yourself inoculated. As many times as you feel necessary.

You have the data you need to make your own decisions.

Virusrex, you and I both know that these vaccines were pushed onto the public prematurely. They waived the normal (and lengthy) final phase of clinical trial to expedite this deployment.

No, that is just your invalid conclusion because of your bias, there is nothing premature in preventing countless unnecessary deaths with a vaccine that demonstrated to be safe and effective beyond expected in perfectly normal phase III trials, there was no need to let more one out of 100 infected people keep dying just to prevent the possibility of one out of a million dying. Your priorities are too biased.

So please don’t paste CDC and Industry shill “data” on long term or speculative results. The complete data is not there yet. If it were, a normal approval process would have been successful achieved.

The CDC is just one outlet of the consensus of science, you believe the whole community is wrong but you are right, which is not a rational thing to think. No single respected institution in the world shares your mistaken conclusions, that should be enough to convince anybody rational.

People being vaccinated right now are not in any trial, they are being inoculated because of the proven therapeutic effect and safety of the vaccines, even if no single piece of data were able to be recorded it would still be justified to keep doing it.

So I highly recommend you get yourself inoculated. As many times as you feel necessary.

You have the data you need to make your own decisions.

The data points to one single rational, logical conclusion and that is that vaccines are safe and effective, you are of course free to reject science for irrational fears, but that does not make your decision logical or correct.

Japan can't even get its essential workers and elderly population vaccinated yet and they've approved the vaccine for the little ones? Jumping the gun much? By the time it's the kids' turn, it'll be the year 2037 - plenty of time for the dinosaurs running the country to hold incessant and unnecessarily long and useless meetings about whether or not the vaccine is safe for kids.

I am not afraid. Nor am I irrational. I’ve had Covid and it was nothing more than a mild cold. It happened when I was staying at hotel filled with Chinese tourists during the 2020 Lunar New Year holiday. I haven’t been under the weather since. Looks like I survived the new Black Death along with 99% of others.

In addition, have not concluded anything more than what is common knowledge. It seems it is you that has a expounded conclusions and logic.

It is quite revealing how you pontificate on the benefits of the cure-all experimental vaccine with inconclusive long term data. It’s a fact. It’s the driving premise behind introducing these vaccines onto the public so fast.

These inoculations are not therapeutic measures. They are designed as preventative vaccines. Get that right. And I am only questioning that claim in the presence of Warp Speed decision making.

With regards to irrational behavior, I also wonder when we’ll all stop being subjected to it.

Now that they have cured Covid-19, maybe they can go back to curing the common cold and influenza. Something they should resolve with more BL-4 lab work.

And you end your sermon with a statement that I reject science. That would be in complete contrast to my vocation.

Not to dispel the cut and paste frenzy of your posted facts.

I am not afraid. Nor am I irrational. I’ve had Covid and it was nothing more than a mild cold.

You are using irrational arguments and switching from the rational ones that prove yours as mistaken. Millions of people died after COVID, that is a much more important argument than your own personal opinion, what if someone said he got shot in the arm once but it is completely fine now, would that prove to you that being shot is not dangerous? this is an example of an irrational argument.

Your use of strawman fallacies is another proof you are not interested in being rational, vaccines are not cure it alls, nor are they perfect, the real argument you cannot do anything against is that they are simply much safer than getting the natural infection, by several orders of magnitude. That includes long term problems, because those have been already identified for COVID, not for the vaccines, so the risk of getting one is still much higher if you are not vaccinated than if you are.

These inoculations are not therapeutic measures

Try reading the meaning of therapeutic, it not only means correcting a problem but also preventing one, vaccines are therapeutic measures. Your questioning is not rational either, there is no valid doubt they have already prevented many deaths, and the phase III trials for approval are on par with what has been used before.

You comparison with the common cold and influenza is also invalid, those diseases are not dependent on a single serotype of a pathogen so obviously they are much more difficult to prevent with vaccines, also neither requires any BSL-4 work (nor that it would bring any advantage to the research already being done).

Sorry if rejecting science goes against your vocation, but if you think the whole scientific and medical community are wrong and you are right there is no other valid conclusion.

Dear Virusrex. I did not suggest that Covid is not dangerous. There are millions of people dying every year from “dangerous “ causes.

I am not afraid of any of them because that’s all part of life.

I am debating your obsessive insistence that these expedited vaccines represent a logical end to a hopelessly mismanaged situation. At least at present time. I hope that experimentation leads to progressive and positive results. But it should have a measure of personal choice if doubt exists.

You will soon find out how dysfunctional and broken some of the institutions you reference for your data sources really are.

By all means pursue what you think is best for yourself. But I caution you to always question what you have posted as conclusive data. You may get a rude awakening.