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ian
Well here it is!
sakurasuki
Next they'll need proof vaccination for work and school
Strangerland
Great!
Hopefully.
Strangerland
Elsewhere in Japan.
2020hindsights
Burning Bush
Yeah, right. So you're telling me that the avid Hanshin Tigers fan is going to stop supporting his team and do something else for entertainment?
I would expect they would get vaccinated so that they can go to the game.
ian
Aren't the families included in the 50 million?
Anyway that's the idea, for the unvaccinated to spend their money elsewhere
Mr Kipling
cla68....
Policies that promote health and encourage the belief in science do not fit into the definition of fascism.
Strangerland
Hence Russia's weak vaccine.
didou
The J league boss was proud a few months back on tv that they set up cameras to observe the saliva droplets spread in the space , and that no infection has been reported at J league games.
So, no need to implement anything.
We all know that outdoors contamination are nearly nil.
Do the hustle
But, but, the vaccine doesn’t stop the spread of the virus. It only lessens the chances of ending up in the ICU.
Speed
So what is the proof of vaccination going to look like? The sheet of paper with the two stickers w. your vaccination dates on it? A card from the govt.? A letter from your mom?
Jacko
With all the high profile school sports events happening in the next few months, I think this is a good idea.
Sports without an atmosphere doesn't feel right, let's have spectators in a safe manner again.
ian
What exactly is this system you're imagining?
I can't want it if I don't know it
ian
The experiment is to test if allowing only the vaccinated will allow the venues to accommodate more people because at the moment they only allow part of capacity.
This is being done to get more revenue
Ingvar
That's from the left-field. What does Russia's "weak" vaccine have to do with fascistic vaccine measures in Japan?
https://www.precisionvaccinations.com/2021/09/03/san-marino-confirms-sputnik-v-vaccines-efficacy
Concerned Citizen
Excluding people from participating in society because they MIGHT be sick and spread a disease that is 99.99% curable? This is overreach. I say 'No' to dsicrimination and exclusion based on such personal medical decisions.
Wick's pencil
For a few months.
They are using this system to push people to do something they don't want to do.
ian
Well how many instances of that situation do you think there are? I mean just a family of 5 seems pretty rare
Which reminds me, I haven't heard of the vaccinations slowing down, which is why they're starting to implement this
ian
How about the beliefs/attitudes of sports fans?
You think the fear of the vaccine will stop them?
ian
It would greatly help if you could share some of that lot of evidence
ian
The difficulty of getting appointments points to great demand for the vaccine, not lack of it
Happy Day
There have been tens of thousands, sometimes over 100,000, fans at events in the U.S. since April or March. No masks or proof of vaccines, and there has been no spread.
Robert Cikki
Considering how every single thing, even the simplest thing, gets as complicated as possible here, this cannot work except as an experiment in the short term.
Until the government makes a database of those vaccinated, with confirmation of vaccination then verified through it, it is simply not in the human power to implement this. In Japan.
stormcrow
It’s about time!
Mr Kipling
Burning BS....
Completely false. Still open , still very busy everyday.
stormcrow
Let the shops, restaurants, etc., decide. Let the put up signs: unvaccinated welcome! Or . . . Only vaccinated admitted!
It’s a free country, that’s what the unvaccinated always scream.
ian
You're missing the point.
That's exactly the reason for requiring vaccine certificate.
If you don't have one they don't want you or your business.
But if you do have one but doesn't want to patronize those businesses then of course it's a loss for them
ian
Ah sorry I missed this:
I'm not sure now but I think they only allow partial capacity SOE or no SOE.
In any case, if any business wants stable revenue then the risk of closure must be minimized.
ian
Yup that is fair.
FtGuy2017
That is the indeed THE major Dogme of this new Covidist religion "Vaccinated Chosen are safe and are creating a safe environment for all, Alleluyah", "Vaccinated & Unvaccinacted will carry and transmit the virus to the others" is Heresy, probably nothing will convince you anyway now, so obviously you have your beliefs like some had in the past that "the earth was the center of the universe and not orbiting around the sun, heresy".
Mr Kipling
BTW..... just walked past the Shibuya walk in vaccination center... Still open .. Not a massive queue, 5 or 6 in line.
Sven Asai
Those proof papers or their digital representation prove nothing more than that someone personally went to a vaccination place once or twice. It’s of no use and has not much of correlation to prove that he got a working vaccine, received or developed immunity, does now less spreading or is of lower dangers of further developing hot spots and the like. There are even some probable or possible constellations or cases when an anti-vaxxer is less dangerous or has a higher immunity than someone who overcame a known infection or was vaccinated twice etc.
ian
Hahahaha
wtfjapan
so actually no vaccination required for entry.
so youre going to get tested every time you want to enter a event of restaurant!?
thats going to turn into an expensive lifestyle.
or you can just take the prove safe and effective vaccine.
but we know some will put recalcitrant pride over actual scientific evidence every time.
vaccine passports or proof of negative test are here, better get use to it.
bring on those antivax negative votes, it sustains me LOL
cleo
No spread? The US has a new case 7-day average floating around 120,000.
The obvious being that a mere 4~5% of unvaccinated folk can cause an outbreak?
wtfjapan
There are even some probable or possible constellations or cases when an anti-vaxxer is less dangerous or has a higher immunity than someone who overcame a known infection or was vaccinated twice etc.
so were are these scientific studies youre probably or possible referring too, unless it is a peer reviewed reputable institution your opinion is just that an opinion. if youre sure your opinion is correct then why are those covid patients in hospitals all over the world account for over 90% of the patients
wtfjapan
why are those covid patients in hospitals all over the world account for over 90% of them unvaccinated