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Japan to lower minimum age to 16 at state-run vaccination sites

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Good. Keep on jabbing. Almost 71 million people double jabbed as of yesterday.

Not a lot of vaccine hesitancy here.

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Whoopee!

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Not a lot of vaccine hesitancy here.

No. Some of our anti-vaxxers were predicting very high levels of vaccine hesitancy.

Not the first thing they’ve been wrong about.

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How do they get their vouchers?

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Just curious, to anyone who has had one of these vaccines, do they fully disclose potential side effects to you before asking for your consent?

Or they just wave a form in front of you and expect you to agree without reading anything in detail?

If it's the latter, heaven help these kids.

Because the government won't.

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Those aged 16 and older in Japan do not need parental permission or to be accompanied by parents or guardians to receive the shots.

Setting quite a dangerous precedent there that minors do not need parental consent. A slippery slope...

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Not a lot of vaccine hesitancy here.

Unless you have your ear to the actual ground here...

Hesitancy is the wrong word. People simply want to make their own choices. Pretty simple and fundamental, democratic human right...

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This week when we had our second jab at the local hospital I was surprised by how many young school children were having it too.

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There are adults out there who haven’t been given their first shot because of shortage and now these fools are saying for children who are not at all in the risk category to be given their shots! The way these authorities do their work is simply awful!

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This week when we had our second jab at the local hospital I was surprised by how many young school children were having it too.

Surprised? With the hysterical response to COVID19, surprised that they were brainwashed and bullied into it?

Those kids had about as much "choice" as they do with their school lunches...

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Surprised? With the hysterical response to COVID19, surprised that they were brainwashed and bullied into it?

Those kids had about as much "choice" as they do with their school lunches...

Maybe the kids zichi was talking about had health problems? I got vaccinated through the company and I’m not sure how it works from the wards or cities.

There is a defensible argument that vaccinating kids isn’t a good idea from the risk/benefit view, but vaccinating kids with health problems may be more compelling.

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There is a defensible argument that vaccinating kids isn’t a good idea from the risk/benefit view, but vaccinating kids with health problems may be more compelling.

I don't see any problem with parents/guardians electing to have their kids vaccinated if they feel that it's necessary - assuming they were not bullied into it...

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@prionking

One can talk to a doctor, look on the www to get info and trust the science because it is sound.

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@prionking : Here lies the problem. The anti vaxxer views are just too extreme. If you made tour views more presentable rather than just to mock and tell the rest of us that we are 'sheep' etc etc then we might listen. There is no balance to your arguments.

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No need to be accompanied by guardians is a boon to those who have antivaxer parents/guardians

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... And anybody sensible would research the side effects themselves. As I did and they were totally as expected.

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Jimizo

Maybe the kids zichi was talking about had health problems? I got vaccinated through the company and I’m not sure how it works from the wards or cities.

No, I don't think so. They were normal young school children some under 10 who came as a family unit with their mothers. One mother had three boys. Another a boy and a girl. I was surprised by the numbers. I know the local hospital very well since it's where my cancer treatment started from. You get to know the staff and regular patients.

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The government plans to finish vaccinating all eligible people who wish to receive shots by November.

Actually, in my city, it is not possible to reserve past November 20. Just wonder if they will stop vaccination after that in case of first shot or will change the way.

In Japan also it has been an hesitancy, but many get the social pressure too.

For exemple, what’s going for the one not vaccinating in a company that organized vaccination ?

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Larry LackyToday  06:26 pm JST

@prionking

One can talk to a doctor, look on the www to get info and trust the science because it is sound.

I have talked to doctors, who have differing opinions. Some are against this injection, some pro.

Which "science" are you talking about? The "approved" version for public consumption? Or peer-reviewed and verifiable results from doctors in the field who are dealing with severe adverse reactions from these experimental injections and developing effective treatment protocols for patients who would otherwise be sent home with an aspirin until they get very sick, too late to treat with the drugs that work well in the early stages?

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Sounds dangerous to give children the vaccine when it has not been throughly tested long term side effects to come as they rushed a vaccine into the market

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There is something profoundly concerning about products that haven't even been on the market for an entire year now being pushed into kids. The amount of fear and hysteria this virus has brought (no thanks to the media) is just incredible. You'd think COVID is the second coming of Ebola, yet the Delta variant itself is less severe/lethal than the original strain.

The vaccines served two purposes: to protect the vulnerable and to help economic recovery. Pushing them onto children serves what purpose exactly? How many Japanese school kids have died of COVID-19? How many were hospitalized? Of those, how many were perfectly healthy/had no pre-existing conditions?

I mean for crying out loud. Look at infection rates for HPV and EBV. Especially with EBV, something like 90% of the world contracted it yet how many people develop mononucleosis? Why aren't people going nuts and demanding a vaccine for that, especially when it can kill you later in life when/if you're immunocompromised?

Look at Singapore. 81% of the population vaccinated yet is having a huge spike in infections right now. As if somehow even a 100% vaccination rate would mitigate the risks.

I could understand pushing these therapeutics onto kids if they were living with UNVACCINATED elderly people, but even vaccinated elderly could just as well get sick from the kid's parents or the food store.

Does anyone seriously want to gamble with the future of children? To HOPE there are no long-term side effects to these vaccines? Absolutely no one knows, least of all the companies developing them or the governments pushing them.

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@Zichi So there were 5 kids. I wouldn't called that a lot. Just more than the 0 you unexpected. But the vaccine has only been approved for kids older than 12. Were they older than 12? Because if not the hospital was breaking the law!

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mountainpear

@Zichi So there were 5 kids. I wouldn't called that a lot. Just more than the 0 you unexpected. But the vaccine has only been approved for kids older than 12. Were they older than 12? Because if not the hospital was breaking the law!

I just gave a few examples of what I saw. More schoolchildren than adults. Then the children must have been 12 years or more. We were there for about one hour and saw more than 20 children which in our country location is a lot.

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Just curious, to anyone who has had one of these vaccines, do they fully disclose potential side effects to you before asking for your consent?

Or they just wave a form in front of you and expect you to agree without reading anything in detail?

No need to worry about silly stuff like that. Dont you trust your government and media??

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@Zichi Yes, that does sound like a lot for a rural location.

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You are continually calling all these vaccines experimental. I can hardly be accused of pitting words in your mouth! Surely every vaccine started out as experimental? Surely every vaccine IS (and certainly started out life as) experimental by default? In the US, the Pfizer Cominarty Vaccine is fully approved for the those aged 16 years and older - Moderna will be soon also, and thus renamed Spikevax. if you don't like the mRna vaccine, why don't you pop along to Shinjuku for a shot of AZ vaccine? Do you define that as experimental also?

Pharmaceutical products must go through multiple rounds of clinical trials. It can take 4 years, 5 years, sometimes longer. Government regulatory agencies meticulously scrutinize every piece of data. Often the initial patent filings for the drugs themselves are nearing expiration before they are finally approved and on the market.

Unless I am mistaken, the standard vaccines given today went through all the standard clinical trial and approval procedures. They were basically established as safe upon release because testing was so extensive. Sure there are some unknown reactions that may occur 10+ years later, and sure there might be some side effects that weren't necessarily observed with the test groups from the trials. But the key is that the products had been tested for years.

With COVID-19 vaccines, they haven't even existed in a lab setting for 24 months. Just because a government can suspend its pharmaceutical regulatory protocols doesn't mean the products are harmless. It just means the government has an unprecedented need to use the medicine now, not in 6 years. These protocols and investigative requirements are in place for safety, because it's dangerous to release products that haven't been properly tested.

Notice how other drugs aren't being fast tracked. Just those for COVID-19. People with rare diseases and cancer and all kinds of other significant health afflictions would love to have immediate access to therapeutics that might help them, but governments demand protocol be followed.

Are the COVID-19 vaccines important? Yes. Should at-risk people get them? Absolutely. But it is scientific negligence to just assume that they are safe because nothing major has occurred 8-9 months after release. Heck, consider how long it often takes before defective car or IT hardware is identified and then recalled; it can take many years before a defective battery or tire issue is found.

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hmmm what for?

because purchased vaccines "must be used"?

i see no other normal explanation for all of this...

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No need to worry about silly stuff like that. Dont you trust your government and media??

Could you tell us which media we should be reading to get closer to the truth regarding vaccines?

Links would be lovely.

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