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Japan to spend ¥1.45 tril on 4th vaccine shots, other anti-virus measures

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I think after the tenth vaccine, that will be it

40 ( +53 / -13 )

Just got my third last week, and it laid me out pretty hard. Recovery was worse than the second shot, but at least our office gave us extra days off for recovery as necessary.

Sounds like it is becoming an annual shot in line with the flu shot, which is something we are all pretty used to at this point already. Just side-effects hit a bit harder.

-7 ( +22 / -29 )

My brother who lives in Europe had his fourth shot a couple of weeks ago.

2 ( +26 / -24 )

Regarding the administration of the fourth shots, Chief Cabinet Secretary Hirokazu Matsuno said, "We need to study recipients (of the shots) and the timing for starting them based on the duration of third vaccinations and the effectiveness of fourth shots."

How about you don't wait for the wave to pass this time?

-3 ( +14 / -17 )

Approaching 50 million who have had the third at a good pace. What happened to all those who said the public didn't want the third shot?

-2 ( +21 / -23 )

Are people still talking about covid? Isn't it time we moved on from this.

-3 ( +32 / -35 )

What happened to all those who said the public didn't want the third shot?

They’re too busy complaining about the fifth shot.

16 ( +27 / -11 )

Never before have so many received so many shots of experimental vaccines in such short periods of time.

9 ( +38 / -29 )

I had the first two shots, then had covid. I think my immunity is good enough as is. No more shots for me, thanks.

29 ( +37 / -8 )

Haven't had my first shot yet!

0 ( +32 / -32 )

Never before have so many received so many shots of experimental vaccines in such short periods of time

Imagine, the first vaccine ever. What a leap of faith that was. That was experimental.

Saying ‘experimental’ for modern vaccines that have been approved by all available criteria, well….that’s just not sensible.

1 ( +26 / -25 )

I think this is the most proactive and responsible thing that I’ve seen the Japanese government do in the past two years.

-11 ( +10 / -21 )

At the rate the coronavirus mutates, probably vaccines will become a semi-annual event for the rest of our lives.

0 ( +10 / -10 )

Japan to start preparations for administering 4th COVID vaccine shots

Kekkou desu!

12 ( +19 / -7 )

I still haven’t had my first shot.

0 ( +28 / -28 )

4th shot will only be for the very old and those who have poor immune systems.

6 ( +13 / -7 )

I still haven’t had my first shot.

Good for you champ.

10 ( +25 / -15 )

Matthew, thing is, these vaccines are produced outside Japan and the companies that make them, especially the mRNA ones, aren't being forthcoming about the risks their products pose without being forced to by courts. And the agencies that are supposed to be regulating them are covering for them instead. Different countries' regulators are doing perfunctory tests for show, but they're just as captured by the industry giants as the FDA is.

0 ( +18 / -18 )

No. Sod off with a 4th shot. I recently got the third and it about killed me with its side effects. I'm not getting anymore.

20 ( +28 / -8 )

I'm triple unvaccinated, soon to be quadruple. Never felt healthier. Haven't been sick since early (February) 2020.

-4 ( +21 / -25 )

Still haven't had the first and never will.

0 ( +29 / -29 )

Pfizer's history of lying about its drugs and paying substantial sums as penalties - and our government asking for 70 years to release relevant data on their covid development / history - and the enormous profits realized by Pfizer - and the redefinition of pandemic - and the redefinition of vaccine - : I'm afraid I just can't believe the info that comes out of mouths of these proponents of the experimental vaccines. I think it is still time to 'follow the money'. I wish it wasn't.

18 ( +26 / -8 )

Sorry, but this is taking the p.... I read reports that the 3rd shot would be good for several months even a year but then this malarky? We just have the 3rd and the 4th needed few months later? Got worsening side effects after each dose and am not getting any more.

13 ( +22 / -9 )

Three vaccinations on the first year and yearly booster shots is sufficient. If they start dishing this stuff out like candy it will lose its effectiveness.

5 ( +8 / -3 )

No more shots as it doesn't prevent catching nor spreading of the virus. Wake up people!

16 ( +27 / -11 )

I didn’t get the first or second one, but I got the third one.

-10 ( +9 / -19 )

First studies on this fourth shot did show it does not prevent the Omicron transmission, but reduce the risk for severe cases. Japan will follow other countries and recommend it for elder lies and immunodeficient persons

2 ( +8 / -6 )

No shots, no mask, life as normal. Avoid close contact. Interesting, I haven’t had a cold for two years, maybe it’s due to hand washing?

-7 ( +12 / -19 )

I’m tired of being a pin cushion for something I’ve already had-no thanks

8 ( +16 / -8 )

I still didn't take the first jab as I prefer natural and healthy lifestyle.

No GMO and processed food for me as well.

Take care of yourself guys, eat a lot of vegetables and fruits!

1 ( +17 / -16 )

They should just send the vaccines to the more poorer countries who need it. I think 3rd is enough. You won't able to convince me anyway to take one anymore. My family already gotten covid weeks ago. Just approve the covid pills already and sell it in stores.

5 ( +12 / -7 )

I am not a public health expert but I think with the flu like virus infections like Covid 19, there's nothing like permanent immunity. Even if you administer 10 shots, its effectiveness wane over time. This brings up the question, are we going to do this every six months?

2 ( +7 / -5 )

Japan’s numbers look much better, but South Korea’s do not, so it’s good that this is available.

-1 ( +7 / -8 )

No, thank you.

6 ( +19 / -13 )

Recent reports in Israel suggest that a 4th shot doesn't offer much more protection than 3 shots (https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-022-00486-9). Seems like overkill.

11 ( +12 / -1 )

B.Jay...

I am not a public health expert but I think...

This is the problem...

Too many people who have very little knowledge about the subject thinking there thoughts have equality with actual experts.

We will not be all taking them... Only those at risk.. That's what the actual experts are saying...

Ps. No offence BJ.... You are probably right about yearly jabs for covid for the at risk groups...Just like influenza.

2 ( +7 / -5 )

I had the first two shots, then had covid. I think my immunity is good enough as is. No more shots for me, thanks.

Almost in the same boat. But got my booster a little bit after I recovered. Not doing the 4th shot unless it becomes required for healthcare workers.

5 ( +7 / -2 )

How are things going on over there in S. Korea? They've got more than 80% of the population fully vaccinated and their government would be one of closest ones to receive an A in managing the situation (at least during the first year). Yet, they've got the deadliest week so far a week or two ago.

So nooooooo, I'm not getting a fourth shot.

8 ( +13 / -5 )

No shots, no mask, life as normal. Avoid close contact. Interesting, I haven’t had a cold for two years, maybe it’s due to hand washing?

A breakthrough. When will you get published?

Maybe it’s due to everyone else wearing masks and avoiding close contact with you.

2 ( +12 / -10 )

Like I have posted here before every shot after the first, is a booster shot. Get prepared for booster after booster. This will be a yearly shot!! Like the flu shot.

0 ( +7 / -7 )

This will be a yearly shot!! Like the flu shot.

So, totally optional then.

Do you take the flu shot every year?

If yes, why?

If no, why care about it?

5 ( +13 / -8 )

Effectiveness ?

Yes thats definitely a sensitive issue.

And the yearly flu shot is NOT the same type of system as the coronovirus vaccine.

As the flu shot is a new variant / strain of flu thats laboratory grown as a guesstimate of what the upcoming flu will mutate into.

3 ( +5 / -2 )

4th shot now and the fanatics still pretend all is ok with a "Great! Roll up my sleeve and give me another!"

But they were promised either 1 and done or 2 and done.

Then they saw what happened in Israel and the UK.

They see whats happening now all over the world.

They know..

9 ( +16 / -7 )

Seems like the pharmaceutical companies are making lots of money by saying that a second shot is necessary and then after a few weeks later claimed a third shot ( booster ) was needed within 6months. That wasn’t it though and now we are talking about a fourth shot! Next will be the fifth then sixth and so on! I’ve received my two shots and waiting for my third but this is really depressing hearing that we all will need more and more shots of this! I really dislike conspiracy theorists but now it makes me wonder who really manufactured the Covid virus ( was it in a China laboratory or some pharmaceutical company who manufactured it in the US and released it in Wuhan market since they are benefiting the most from this outbreak )!

5 ( +10 / -5 )

Apparently the Moderna CEO made $400 million last year.

12 ( +14 / -2 )

Seems like the pharmaceutical companies are making lots of money by saying that a second shot is necessary and then after a few weeks later claimed a third shot ( booster ) was needed within 6months. 

It wasn’t a few weeks later.

I really dislike conspiracy theorists but 

Spoiler; goes on to give 2 conspiracy theories.

-4 ( +8 / -12 )

But they were promised either 1 and done or 2 and done.

Fake news. Misinformation. Nobody was ever promised that. What was clear was that that 2 shots would be neccessary, and at some point a booster. This was clear from day one.

The evidence is quite clear; get vaccinated, get boosted, and you will get less sick. If you don't, the chances of you catching the virus and getting very sick vastly increases.

For many people this a political issue.

-11 ( +7 / -18 )

4th? LoL I didn't even get the 1st one, come on even the most pro-corona vaxxer must be thinking this is beyond ridiculous.

5 ( +15 / -10 )

Um......You got to be kidding me???

7 ( +11 / -4 )

LOL

6 ( +10 / -4 )

Doing the same thing over and over and getting the same results - covid.

8 ( +13 / -5 )

Anti-science is one thing, profiteering is another thing!!

7 ( +11 / -4 )

At what shot are they going to admit that the vaccines are useless?? 4 shots within a year and people are still contracting and spreading Covid. With the mildness of Omicron Natural immunity seems like a much better option!

7 ( +14 / -7 )

My brother got blood clots from the second shot. Now he has to take blood thinners for the rest of his life. He wonders what other hidden damages occurred.

9 ( +15 / -6 )

We must keep the mass clinical trials of experimental drugs going, if not for the sake of profit.

3 ( +7 / -4 )

Doing the same thing over and over and getting the same results - covid.

You mean protecting vulnerable population? yes, that is the whole point.

At what shot are they going to admit that the vaccines are useless??

Why would they admit something that is easily proved false? data from all over the world proves the vaccines importantly reduce the risk from COVID, and no, Omicron still kills, and quite a lot of people, saying something that is several orders of magnitude more likely to kill you than any vaccine is deeply irresponsible and puts in risk the health and lives of the people that may be mislead by such falsehoods.

My brother got blood clots from the second shot. Now he has to take blood thinners for the rest of his life.

There is no evidence whatsoever that clotting problems related to the vaccines are either permanent nor as likely as with the natural infection (which is still a much more likely cause).

We must keep the mass clinical trials of experimental drugs going, if not for the sake of profit.

So of course you can provide the registration number of those clinical trials, right? it is not like you are just pulling a conspiracy theory out of thin air...

-16 ( +4 / -20 )

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2021/aug/26/bbc-presenter-lisa-shaw-died-of-astrazeneca-covid-vaccine-complications-coroner-finds

The clots were permanent for this poor lady. Are you saying any doctor prescribing blood thinners post-vaccine is a hack?

6 ( +10 / -4 )

Why am I as a taxpayer paying Pfizer for this stuff if it doesn't provide immunity and stop transmission?

I'd rather that these billions go towards better care, better hospitals, more beds and support for the needy.

It shouldn't go towards Pfizer's profit margins, which are now higher than most countries' GDP.

6 ( +12 / -6 )

I like how they are "studying with various experts before making a decision" on the 4th shot but have already ordered 145 millions doses....

Let me guess, the experts will say that....drumrolls...suspense...more drumrolls....more suspense....everybody will get it.

6 ( +7 / -1 )

The clots were permanent for this poor lady.

This is not what permanent means, if that were the case they would be a "common" thing for COVID, because lots of patients (as in many orders of magnitude compared with vaccines) develop fatal clots, vaccines would prevent those "permanent" clots the same.

Why am I as a taxpayer paying Pfizer for this stuff if it doesn't provide immunity and stop transmission?

Mostly because it does, proved scientifically all over the world, as anybody able to understand that things can be effective even if not at 100% can easily conclude.

Put forward your proposal with objective data that proves it is has a better return of cost/benefits, just using falsehoods to justify your personal belief is not enough.

-11 ( +4 / -15 )

OMG, they are starting early! (not so much)

3 ( +3 / -0 )

So of course you can provide the registration number of those clinical trials, right? it is not like you are just pulling a conspiracy theory out of thin air...

Give it a few months.

You mean protecting vulnerable population? yes, that is the whole point.

No. That's not what I mean. But you know that.

3 ( +7 / -4 )

I salute you @Bronco in paying for my (so far) 3 shots of Moderna. Thank you so much!

-1 ( +7 / -8 )

Fake news. Misinformation. Nobody was ever promised that. What was clear was that that 2 shots would be neccessary, and at some point a booster. This was clear from day one.

Boy, that's weird. I don't remember a single soul who in Jan, 2021 predicted they would have to take any boosters let alone every 6 months.

The evidence is quite clear; get vaccinated, get boosted, and you will get less sick. If you don't, the chances of you catching the virus and getting very sick vastly increases.

But of course we all know that this is completely false. The data out of Israel and the UK is clear.

(You thought you could slide that in there and no one would call u on it!)

7 ( +12 / -5 )

There is no evidence whatsoever that clotting problems related to the vaccines are either permanent nor as likely as with the natural infection (which is still a much more likely cause)

It is right to forgive non native speakers for misunderstanding English but here, it is necessary for Virusrex to read the original poster’s comment again.

4 ( +8 / -4 )

I salute you @Bronco in paying for my (so far) 3 shots of Moderna. Thank you so much!

And people say I didn't do my part.

Not only did I pay for your shots, but I donated my to a more needy individual.

And I didn't spend a minute in the hospital, so I cost the system nothing.

7 ( +12 / -5 )

What a hero you are!

-3 ( +3 / -6 )

Give it a few months.

So it was something you imagined then? because you understand any clinical trials must be PRE-registered before doing anything, if you recognize there is nothing registered that means you recognize the "clinical trials" are also imaginary.

No. That's not what I mean. But you know that.

Then that means you are wrong, because that is what is happening.

Boy, that's weird. I don't remember a single soul who in Jan, 2021 predicted they would have to take any boosters let alone every 6 months

Vaccines requiring boosters or becoming less effective with variants was something commonly said even before they were tested, pretending this just came up now is just disinformation. The clear proof is that nobody ever guaranteed vaccines would be as effective then permanently, nor against possible variants.

But of course we all know that this is completely false. The data out of Israel and the UK is clear.

What data? there is no data from Israel or UK that compares vaccinated and unvaccinated people of the same demographics showing no difference, on the contrary the studies show quite the efficacy in preventing everything studied.

https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/covid-booster-shot-reduces-viral-load-limits-transmission-israeli-study-finds-1.10224174

It is right to forgive non native speakers for misunderstanding English but here, it is necessary for Virusrex to read the original poster’s comment again.

There is no other interpretation for a permanent need of blood thinners than having a permanant blood clotting problem, it is not like someone can just get "hooked" on them, so pretending a vaccine is the reason for this has absolutely no scientific basis.

People that do not understand how drugs work and are indicated fail to understand also the meaning of people talking about them.

Not only did I pay for your shots, but I donated my to a more needy individual.

That only works if you replace the vaccine with other measures to reduce the extra risk you represent for others, otherwise you did not donated anything, you simply choose to become that extra risk.

-8 ( +4 / -12 )

Discount for the fifth shop 3 months later?

2 ( +5 / -3 )

can't wait for the 25th

8 ( +10 / -2 )

The details, including whether to actually administer the additional booster shots and who would be eligible, will be determined later.

Fourth doses of COVID-19 vaccines are recommended in Israel and Britain, with recipients limited to medical staff and individuals at high risk of developing severe symptoms.

I remember way back in the day when people would actually read, good times.

See 4th and just lose it.

1 ( +1 / -0 )

Weekly shots coming soon!!!.......

7 ( +11 / -4 )

"Experts" are not just 'experts', they are PAID 'experts' and paid by whom? And most, if not all, of the claims of efficacy are made by the producers and marketers of these demonstrably inefficacious immunological bombs whose long term effects have yet to be seen. And these 'boosters' are the SAME antigens as the first two and designed against a virus that is essentially no longer in circulation. The most interesting thing is how long Big Pharma can keep these deceptive plates spinning on ever thinner sticks...¥1.45 trillion. Even with the plummeting Yen (¥122/$), that's a lotta dollars of pure profit to Big Pharma and loss to the poor of Japan...

6 ( +9 / -3 )

its lucrative business for a few...selected...

nothing less nothing more.

just pure business sponsored by japanese tax payers money.

2 ( +6 / -4 )

I always try to look at the bright side. It's ideal that everyone is vaccinated but some not is also useful. Best to compare data to some baseline to be really meaningful.

1 ( +2 / -1 )

Big waste to throw all this money at something that doesn't even work.

The health care system in Japan appears to be just as captured as it is in other countries.

So I'll be taking care of this virus myself...

-11 ( +6 / -17 )

JapanJim - No more shots as it doesn't prevent catching nor spreading of the virus. Wake up people!

You are half right. It doesn't stop you spreading or catching the virus. However, it does stop you ending up in the ICU on a respirator or dead. It is the ani-vaxxers who need to wake up!

-4 ( +2 / -6 )

Experts" are not just 'experts', they are PAID 'experts' and paid by whom?

By a wide variety of sources, from public health systems to universities, which of course mean your conspiracy theory makes no sense. I mean, you will not pretend people to believe every single institution of the world working with vaccines or public health is paid so their members lie, putting in risk the health and lives of their own family members and friends, right?

And most, if not all, of the claims of efficacy are made by the producers and marketers of these demonstrably inefficacious immunological bombs whose long term effects have yet to be seen. 

Again completely wrong, these are not something that came up to the market this week, over a year of data (completely open and public) is the one demonstrating their safety and efficacy, data that do not depend at all of any company whatsoever.

Also, the long term effects of COVID are yet to be seen also, but even at this point it is clear vaccines could not even reach similar levels, after all COVID already produces permanent problems.

And these 'boosters' are the SAME antigens as the first two and designed against a virus that is essentially no longer in circulation

The vaccines are still effective enough to be very useful, so they can still be used to prevent risk instead of fulfilling your completely arbitrary requirement. And no, people still die of COVID every day and some countries have huge problems because of Omicron, your lack of empathy at considering those deaths "essentially" unimportant is not something people should feel proud of.

The most interesting thing is how long Big Pharma can keep these deceptive plates spinning on ever thinner sticks

That is the thing right? once you decided to ignore the mountains of evidence that prove the vaccines as safe and effective suddently the world seems cracy. If someone decided to believe the internet is false and you never communicate with other people with it this person would also find "interesting" how much money is spend by people on it, if after all they are just all talking to themselves.

The simple fact that the scientific evidence supports the value of vaccines and completely contradicts your personal beliefs is what clearly explains the situation of the world.

-11 ( +0 / -11 )

its lucrative business for a few...selected...

Much more lucrative would be treating COVID without preventing it, profit would be a reason not to have vaccines.

Big waste to throw all this money at something that doesn't even work.

Let me see, every single institution of the world dealing with diseases or vaccines say they work very nicely and have the data to prove it, but a nameless person in the internet say they are all wrong, every single one of them in every country, and proves it with... nothing. The same as people that think antibiotics (or germs) are fake and take care of their infections themselves.

Not exactly difficult to know who is right here.

-9 ( +1 / -10 )

Fourth doses of COVID-19 vaccines are recommended in Israel and Britain, with recipients limited to medical staff and individuals at high risk of developing severe symptoms.

I have spoken with experts who said they will not get the 4th shot.

virusrexToday  01:21 pm JST

The simple fact that the scientific evidence supports the value of vaccines and completely contradicts your personal beliefs is what clearly explains the situation of the world.

What scientific evidence? No sources? How does scientific evidence explain the situation of the world? Ukraine?

The effectiveness of third shots against the highly contagious Omicron variant of the coronavirus has been found to wane over time.

Try a zero covid policy; China has had great success with it. Lowest covid related death percentage in the world.

0 ( +4 / -4 )

What data? there is no data from Israel or UK that compares vaccinated and unvaccinated people of the same demographics showing no difference, on the contrary the studies show quite the efficacy in preventing everything studied. 

https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/covid-booster-shot-reduces-viral-load-limits-transmission-israeli-study-finds-1.10224174

Im not talking about data from a Sept 2021 "study" that has comprehensively shown to be false. Ebven for you, that is weak weak weak.

Im talking about the real world results in Israel, where well into their 4th jab, deaths continue to soar.

Not cases, which exploded, but deaths

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/israel/

5 ( +8 / -3 )

masterToday  01:33 pm JST

Im not talking about data from a Sept 2021 "study" that has comprehensively shown to be false. Ebven for you, that is weak weak weak.

Im talking about the real world results in Israel, where well into their 4th jab, deaths continue to soar.

Not cases, which exploded, but deaths

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/israel/

Thank you for providing the correct information on this matter.

2 ( +7 / -5 )

Last year "experts" (the ones that were cherry picked to be on TV) said that 2 shots was FULLY vaccinated.

At same time, the tinfoil hat crowd all said a 3rd and 4th shot would be coming, and of course they were ridiculed.

Ask yourself, who ended up being right.

And why is unvaccinated Africa not having a problem with the BA.2 variant?

3 ( +7 / -4 )

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