Japan warship cruises through Taiwan Strait for first time

Now this is interesting...!

Freedom of Navigation. Outside of a declared conflict, technically, Japan has no right to complain about PLAN ships navigating through the first island chain and the PRC has no right to complain about JMSDF ships transiting the Taiwan Strait.

A Japanese warship cruised through the Taiwan Strait for the first time

For the first time since world war two in truth. I doubt they took the scenic route before 1945.

It's about time Japan stepped forward to join the other democracies in the FON exercises.

Excellent to see the Japanese Navy join their Aussie and Kiwi allies in undertaking this cruise of the Taiwan Strait to assert their right to Freedom of the Seas.

And if it antagonizes Communist China? Go pound sand...losers!

OK then.

Freedom of Navigation exercises are perfectly acceptable in Japan's claimed territorial waters.

Why not ?

The chinese constantly come cruising around Miyako and Iriomte Islands.

Let’s see how long it takes for them to start whining again

Nothing to see here, literally. The sailors would have been unable to see any land from so far away. Sail through the middle line of the Taiwan strait and land is about 90km away on either side. No idea why China would ever complain about anyone's use of these international waters.

Australia never says boo about any navy sailing through Bass strait between Victoria and the island state of Tasmania (about 240km wide) a little wider than Taiwan strait and unlike China and the Taiwan strait, both sides of Bass strait are states of Australia.

Good.

JJEToday  05:20 pm JST

OK then.

Freedom of Navigation exercises are perfectly acceptable in Japan's claimed territorial waters.

What the democratic nations are doing is excercising the right of free navigation in international waters over which the Chinese dictatorship is attempting to control in violation of an international ruling.

What the Chinese PLA Navy are doing is advancing their routes to break the first island chain, in order to confront the US Navy in light of their intended actions towards Taiwan.

Comparing the incidence last week, and this.

1st, it was contiguous water. Different from territorial water.

2nd, the Pla N was on its way to the Pacific Ocean, quickest/shortest way, it had a destination, not aimless trip.

3rd, this trip, is a trip with no destination, aimless, ie, provocation.

Good! Its about time the Japanese Navy got some back bone. If you want to have the support of the Aussies, US,UK,other navies et al, you gotta step up to the plate, and so some work. Sent a clear message to the CCP. We have allowed them to push everyone around for too long. Autocratic,dictatorship, built with capitalism are very hard to deal with as money talked. Only thing is Autocratic dictarships don't have to answer to the public, or business. We thought the CCP would eventually fall apart as the people wanted more than capitalist wealth. Well Kissingers ideas have fallen flat, and we have helped build up the chinese navy, army and airforce, as they creamed in profits from us wanting cheap goods. While we were suckers cute pandas, the CCP were building up its claws. The cold war peace dividend is now over.

About time.

Chinese PLA ships have increasingly tested Japan's patience, too often and for far too long, with hardly a murmer in return from the Japanese government.

If they incurred into Japan’s airspace. Shoot it down! These are CCP terrorist. They are simply going to keep pushing and try to test for weakness and push as far as they can go

So when China does around disputed islands, it is aggression.

But when Japan does, it is freedom of navigation.

We know these lines from other agitators in the west.

Japan is being pushed into a war by the west thinking they will back it when blood starts running even though we have way too many examples out there proving the otherwise.

Hogwash. China's position is that the passage of navy ships potentially increases the tension in the Taiwan Strait which separates two Chinese rival governments, the internationally recognized government in Beijing and the remnants of the Republic of China government which fled to Taiwan after its defeat on the Mainland.

See MOF statement following the passage of the German warship only last week.

Mao Ning: Taiwan is an inalienable part of China’s territory. We made our position clear on similar questions. The waters of the Taiwan Strait, from both shores toward the middle of the Strait, are China’s internal waters, then territorial sea, then contiguous zone, and then exclusive economic zone. China respects countries’ right to navigation in relevant waters in accordance with China’s laws and international law, including UNCLOS. But we firmly oppose any act of provocation under the pretext of freedom of navigation by relevant countries that harms China’s sovereignty and security.

https://www.mfa.gov.cn/eng/xw/fyrbt/202409/t20240909_11487817.html

What the democratic nations are doing is excercising the right of free navigation in international waters over which the Chinese dictatorship is attempting to control in violation of an international ruling.

Freedom of navigation for both, Japan and China..

This is right and proper: we are assured that freedom of navigation is sacrosanct pretty much everywhere but especially international waters.

JJESep. 26 05:20 pm JST

OK then.

Freedom of Navigation exercises are perfectly acceptable in Japan's claimed territorial waters.

As long as you are fine with Japan getting as close to land as China does, sure.

deanzaZZRSep. 26 11:39 pm JST

Hogwash. China's position is that the passage of navy ships potentially increases the tension

Yes that is nice to be able to just claim things.

in the Taiwan Strait which separates two Chinese rival governments, the internationally recognized government in Beijing

The government recognized only as being in charge of the ill defined "China", yes.

and the remnants of the Republic of China government which fled to Taiwan after its defeat on the Mainland.

Who represent the only democracy created by the Chinese people.

If China says nothing, then no problem and no news, right?

OKuniyoshiSep. 26 08:34 pm JST

Comparing the incidence last week, and this.

1st, it was contiguous water. Different from territorial water.

2nd, the Pla N was on its way to the Pacific Ocean, quickest/shortest way, it had a destination, not aimless trip.

3rd, this trip, is a trip with no destination, aimless, ie, provocation.

We are told that contiguous waters are international waters and this was even further out from contiguous waters. It's not up to the CCP to decide what destinations are valid.

Well, well, I have long wondered if the JMSDF would send a ship through the Taiwan Strait, thinking the Japanese might think doing so would be seen as especially inflammatory by China and maybe too hot a yam to handle. But lo and behold Japan did it. Very good. I hope this becomes routine.

Right now is the bad time to do it after the SDF screw up in July.

https://defencesecurityasia.com/en/japan-sacked-warship-captain-for-unknowingly-entering-chinese-territorial-waters/

Japan Sacked Warship Captain for “Unknowingly” Entering Chinese Territorial Waters

The incident, which took place on July 4, saw the JMSDF destroyer “ JS Suzutsuki” enter the 12-nautical-mile territorial waters off China's Zhejiang province, staying there for 20 minutes.

The Japanese destroyer’s actions in entering China’s territorial waters were protested by Beijing.

*According to Japanese media, *the incident raised questions about the competency of JMSDF personnel.

*Additionally, the Japanese Navy is *reportedly considering disciplinary action against other crew members aboard the destroyer involved.

*Upon investigation, the destroyer’s captain claimed he was unaware of the ship’s position until after it had entered Chinese waters.*

Samit BasuToday 04:02 am JST

It's the perfect time to do it: they can say that one was a screw up but this one wasn't. China treats them the same anyways.

Beijing can sail around the Tiaoyutai Islands. Even drop anchor and make landfall.

ChI’m na is a big country but acts like an immature dog..

ChI’m na is a big country but acts like an immature dog..

My big, goofy, immature male Husky wags his tail and rolls over for a belly rub. China acts more like an extremely insecure herding dog always barking and nipping at heels.

Why not?! They're international waters, aren't they?

The Taiwan Strait is an alchemist's keg of fire. Let a sleeping dog lie. Don't agitate it by touching, Don't rock the boat.

JJEToday  04:53 am JST

Beijing can sail around the Tiaoyutai Islands. Even drop anchor and make landfall.

Good laugh. If China thought they could risk landfall on the Senkakus they would have done it already. China doesn't dare.

Despite both nations being US allies, Japan participates in far more FON exercises with the USN than South Korea which limits it's participation to avoid angering China.

The cold war peace dividend is now over.

I am still waiting for my dividend ...