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Japan has every right to defend its territorial fishing waters. The North Koreans are illegally encroaching. Anyone can clearly see that it sure ain't Japan that's the "aggressors" of Northeast Asia.

If Japanese fishing vessels had done the same to North Korea, the haters here would then be blasting Japan, and justifying any action on North Korea's part to enforce its territory.

Double standards as per usual.

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@Nasubi

You're partly correct. Only partly.

Adding to that 200 nm the Continental shelf from Japan's baseline (UNCLOS- 1982), the limit is extended to 350 nm, but not on inch more. You're "mistake" stems from ignoring the 1982 Act.

Therefore Japan is "da boss" in that region, I'm afraid.

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Your mistake; that's what happens when you type and watch footie at the same time.

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One inch; sorry.

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@Nasubi

I did miss Art 77(4) for definition of "natural resources".

You're right in that fishing is excluded.

Therefore, though Japan enjoys sovereignty up tp 350 nm from the base line, fishing is allowed by outsiders but not oil/gas and even laying of submarine cables by others than Japan.

So, you were right and I am wrong in this chapter. The boss can tell others not to do anything else but fishing apparently.

Apologies, but I was not paid to read this legislation throughly; cynical, init?

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"that doesn't make the Japanese fishermen of Sakata feel any easier"

Perhaps the Japanese fishermen of Sakata can pressure Abe to order the Self Defense Forces to take out the N. Korean threat.

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If the North Koreans are hungry perhaps they should be left to catch some squid?

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@Nasubi

Please check proper legislation; don't rely on Wiki. That's something my lecturers always advised against us doing.

Preamble to the UN Convention on the Law of the Sea.

All you need is:

1) Definition of the continental shelf

Art.76;

ss.76(5), (6), (7), (8), (9), (10)

2) Rights of the coastal State over the continental shelf

Art.77

"2. The rights referred to in paragraph 1 are exclusive in the sense that if the coastal State does not explore the continental shelf or exploit its natural resources, no one may undertake these activities without the express consent of the coastal State.

The rights of the coastal State over the continental shelf do not depend on occupation, effective or notional, or on any express proclamation."

So, yeah; Japan is da boss over those Shallows.

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@Nasubi

To make your life easier:

Ar.76

"6. Notwithstanding the provisions of paragraph 5, on submarine ridges, the outer limit of the continental shelf shall not exceed 350 nautical miles from the baselines from which the breadth of the territorial sea is measured. This paragraph does not apply to submarine elevations that are natural components of the continental margin, such as its plateaux, rises, caps, banks and spurs.

The coastal State shall delineate the outer limits of its continental shelf, where that shelf extends beyond 200 nautical miles from the baselines from which the breadth of the territorial sea is measured, by straight lines not exceeding 60 nautical miles in length, connecting fixed points, defined by coordinates of latitude and longitude."

It's a nice day here in London, btw.

The Peeping.

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Russia, China, North Korea, South Korea, Taiwan, Japan. When do we see some good-natured working togetherness? Who will take the lead? Who’s the most civilized?

May the fishing season begin.

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In this changing world, Japan will just have to learn to start sharing.

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