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One would think that they could have chosen a better name.

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Kind of surprised me as well since it is a name of one of the Carriers within the CBG that attacked Pearl Harbor.

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One would think that they could have chosen a better name.

Have to agree with that! I'm still waiting for them to revive the Yamato name!

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Kaga as in Kaga-han, the medieval name of the state situated around current day Ishikawa prefecture. Same goes for Hyuga or Yamato or Musashi and the like. All medieval names of Japanese Hans.

To say that something is wrong with these names cuz of acts that were committed in the past with ships that shared the same names, is the same as saying that Japan should abolish not only their naval flag, but national flag and anthem as they were used in like manner prior to 1945.

Everyone is entitled to their opinions, and mine is that neither the names, flags, nor anthem have any fault as all these things existed prior to Japan's expansionism (were not things that were specifically created for the advancement of said expansionist agenda)

Hence theres nothing wrong with them being used post war.

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Pearl Harbour ...? Never happened. Remember Japan was the victim off a global conspiracy. An outrage was perpetrated upon these pease loving people next time look out. I say bonsai build more. It was worked out so well last time.

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Yes, The Midway would have been better.

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I don't really see a problem with the name. It's a centuries old naval tradition in most countries to keep recycling old ship names. The Japanese are just honouring that. The Royal Navy has commissioned countless ships named Enterprise, Invincible, Victory, etc (all involved in dubious missions at some point in history). It's also worth remembering that when the original Kaga was built after WW1, Japan was still a western ally and hadn't yet started down the road to military dictatorship.

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If people are saying that Japan should get rid of the national flag because it symbolizes imperialism, then the Union Jack should be banned as well.

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I think that improving aging coast guard boats is necessary instead of constructing such vessel.

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What is the use of a "helicopter carrier"? Does anyone know?

I cannot think of a good use of it except being a sitting target for Chinese missiles.

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CH3CHO

I read that it's a technicality. Apparently these two ships can be refitted and modeled to become aircraft carriers.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Izumo-class_helicopter_destroyer

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In the US Navy, it is tradition to name aircraft carriers after US presidents. Battleships (which are no longer produced to the best of my knowledge) named after US states. Cruisers were traditionally named after US cities (though that may have changed). Destroyers are named after US servicemen who died heroically in battle. Munitions vessels were traditionally named after volcanoes (someone at the DoD had a sense of humor).

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Nothing wrong with the name.

Unless you're a Portuguese speaker....

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**CH3CHO

I read that it's a technicality. Apparently these two ships can be refitted and modeled to become aircraft carriers.

I remember reading the same thing. They said that it had been built to be long enough (intentionally I guess) to accomodate fighter jets with some modifications.

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A little deck work and a squadron of F-35Bs could be a game changer.

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The Izumo class is too small to become a useful fixed wing carrier and ski jump can only launch a VSTOL type with limited amount of sortie it's usefulness is limited.

Japan can easily construct a full fledged fixed wing carrier with EMAL if we wanted to but it is going to cost a heap of money to operate it at the ship's full potential. At the moment Japan doesn't require that kind of capability and the Izumo class is more useful at their present status as a heli carrier which is a real work horse as a sub hunter/killer.

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There is a ship called the USS Halsey, named after the Admiral. You should look up his comments on Japanese people.

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Giant self propelled floating barge, Japan needs to mod the carrier to handle F35.

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What is the use of a "helicopter carrier"? Does anyone know? This is just a guess but, I bet it is to carry helicopters.

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To say that something is wrong with these names

Who said anything was "wrong" with the name? Consider this however, Abe is pushing to make Japan a military power in the region, and there is too much history among it's neighbors for them to acquiesce.

Renaming ships from Japan's militaristic days, just brings back memories for many people, some good, for the right-wing nuts in Japan, and not so good, for those who were victims.

In the US Navy, it is tradition to name aircraft carriers after US presidents.

So are you suggesting that Japan name this one the "Hirohito?"

What difference does it make about the US here? Right, Japan is America's lapdog, so what's good for the US is fine for Japan too.

It's a centuries old naval tradition in most countries to keep recycling old ship names.

Japan does not have a centuries old tradition of having a Navy. Keep that in mind. No need to insert "western" traditions" here.

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YubaruMar. 23, 2017 - 06:44AM JST

Renaming ships from Japan's militaristic days, just brings back memories for many people, some good, for the right- wing nuts in Japan, and not so good, for those who were victims.

And J-haters too. Most of whom were never around back then.

Right, Japan is America's lapdog, so what's good for the US is fine for Japan too.

And all democratic (and some no so democratic) nations as well. Doesn't make them "lapdogs".

Japan does not have a centuries old tradition of having a Navy.

Many Koreans would disagree with you.

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This is a good first step for Japan in taking more responsibility for its own defense and protecting peace and stability in Asia. North Korea's actions are very unpredictable and even China they're only and most reliable Ally doesn't have full control of their actions and belligerent talk. Building up a strong military including a nuclear deterrent is the best way to keep Japan safe and to prevent another Hiroshima and Nagasaki from happening again! I wish the rest of the world would be a pacifist country with no nuclear weapons, but that's not going to happened for a very long time! Leaving Japan naked and exposed will be at a great cost to the Japanese people themselves!

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Renaming ships from Japan's militaristic days...

There is something missing in translation. They are not exactly same to Japanese people; the one in the past was named "加賀" and the newest one is named "かが" even though both become "Kaga" when transliterated to English. Same thing can be said of "出雲" and "いずも", different names to Japanese, both of which are transliterated to one and the same "Izumo" in English. They are related but not same.

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Is it allowed to go out of the territorial waters of Japan? After all, it is self defense which by name means the country is attacked and may respond.

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use or Develop the Ku-go death ray developed to some extent in japan in 1936 think it was called the Magnetron japanese death ray .

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