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Masks outside not needed when not chatting: gov't panel

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Wow, the Japanese government is saying things that the WHO said back in 2020, neat!

Maybe next year they will finally say that plexiglass barriers not only do absolutely nothing, but because they cut the normal airflow in closed spaces, it is actually worse to have them in place if the point is to avoid infections, something that was also widely known back in 2020.

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After so many incidents involving mask police (aka.: entitled old men verbally abusing other ppl in the streets and train stations) I wouldnt dare to get rid of them right now, unless the government launches a massive campaign encouraging this which is unlikely to happen.

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I walk to the supermarket from my house on rural roads three or four times a week and don't wear a mask during my walk. But when someone walks past me, even if they're five to ten feet away, they look at me with suspicion and fear. There's no way in hell they'll catch anything from me even if I wanted them to.

People here really need to start using their common sense. Finally, now that the govt. is starting to tell them that they don't really need to wear masks outside, they'll probably sheeple up and ditch the masks outside.

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they look at me with suspicion and fear. 

they probably know all about your internet habits, like posting on this notice board.

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Did they also mention they were never necessary?

Wow, the Japanese government is saying things that the WHO said back in 2020, neat!

The strange thing is Omi is used to work for the WHO so you'd think he'd know what's going on there

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Wow, the Japanese government is saying things that the WHO said back in 2020, neat!

There needs to be a separate research don't for the Japanese people by the Japanese people because and it needs to take 2 years because Japan is special, we have 4 seasons here ;)

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I thought they already announced this last week. Or maybe that was the prerelease to say they were considering thinking about it.

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More, unfortunately necessary, micromanaging from the government….

Just decide for yourself!

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I think people here will actually have to be told they’re not allowed to wear them before they stop!

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Ahem…pssst J-gov the pandemic is no longer a pandemic. Nobody (well the sane at least) cares about covid anymore. Just let go and let life carry on. There is no need for anyone to be wearing a mask if they choose not to. If you still want to by all means carry on but allow the rest of us to get on with life. Thank you.

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What gets me is when you see a single person in their car with the windows closed… wearing a mask.

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A declaration such as this is required for a population that can't think for themselves for fear of non-conforming.

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I think people here will actually have to be told they’re not allowed to wear them before they stop!

And even then it'll still depend on what the superior work colleague is doing.

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Unless explicitly told to by the government, I doubt people in Japan will stop wearing masks everywhere. Sad really.

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To be honest, wearing a mask is tremendously comfortable. We can cover up without makeup and shaving. It also hides the smell of our breaths.

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I wouldnt dare to get rid of them right now, unless the government launches a massive campaign encouraging this which is unlikely to happen.

Get rid of ALL mask mandates now! Do this and you will see how many people will continue to wear them for the rest of their lives. Mission accomplished.

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No masks with touching masks, no spreading.

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There was never any science that proved mask were effective and it shows. We go to restaurants and see told to wear them inside , but then we remove them to eat.

Completely false, there's plenty of science. You just have to read it:

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/?term=covid+masks+efficacy

It would be false to interpret this decision as an OK for no masks. This is to prevent heatstroke of children during summer physical education classes.

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What if I'm all alone in the middle of a forest, would I still need a mask? Is the sky still blue?

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The complete stupidity of the J-Gov is on full display with their statement about not erasing them as long as your not chatting.

There was never any science that proved mask were effective and it shows. 

Yes complete stupidity is on full display

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My mask hasn't left my chin since January

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There was never any science that proved mask were effective and it shows. We go to restaurants and see told to wear them inside

If masks were effective, the pandemic would have been stopped in its tracks. Instead, and three jabs later, we are still expected to muzzle ourselves. What a load of crock!

Japanese cannot do anything without someone further up the chain telling them what to do. Still, who cares about the thought processes of automatons?

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Nothing changes for me I never wear mask regardless government recommendations.

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Not required to wear mask outside, until that non-talking person you encounter sneezes on your face.

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A good start, I guess, but it doesn't go far enough. Not nearly far enough.

With the understandable exceptions of hospitals, nursing homes, and the like, I say ditch the masks altogether. Certainly outdoors (whether chatting or not) and even in most indoor settings.

Why is almost everyone in this country continuing to wear a face diaper everywhere -- over a virus with virtually zero chance of killing you (or even making you seriously sick) unless you're elderly AND already in frail health.

Another typical COVID day here in our prefecture -- about 2,500 cases, and 3 deaths which all involved folks in their 80s or 90s. It can very reasonably be wondered if these 3 folks REALLY died of the COVID, or something else.

No more face diapers. We're not meant to go around with a piece of cloth so ridiculously close to the orifices through which we intake oxygen. And we were certainly not meant to live like faceless, emotionless drones -- we NEED to see people's faces and have them see ours. It's a normal and necessary part of human life.

So ditch the freaking masks already. Enough.

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Anybody sits near me on the train not wearing a mask and I will say something !

-12 ( +3 / -15 )

Another flip flop whoopie cushion announcement.

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Abbey

Just make sure your wearing your mask before you speak.

However if they are not talking don't say anything.

Masks- 101 guide

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Anybody sits near me on the train not wearing a mask and I will say something !

Last time I checked, the seats on the train were inside, not outside.

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Its simply astonishing that with all of the real world evidence, the studies, and the admission by both the CDC and Denmark that masks are nothing more than a tool to keep the populace in a state of stress, that the myth of masks stopping the spread of a virus persists. Indoors or outdoors.

Completely useless.

Two and a half years into this farce, day is night and the sky is still green.

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If masks were effective, the pandemic would have been stopped in its tracks. 

This is truly amazing.

Someone actually thinks this?

Are there more of you?

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the admission by both the CDC and Denmark that masks are nothing more than a tool to keep the populace in a state of stress

Would be really helpful if you post a link of where you got that

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Last time I checked, the seats on the train were inside, not outside.

Lol what's that about

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Wearing masks when outdoors is not always necessary even if …

Still it’s not a clear statement… they are using “ not always necessary “!

Almost all Japanese people won’t stop wearing masks and will frown on anyone ( especially a foreigner ) who isn’t wearing a mask around them!

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I'm sure masks have some protective value, but not fool proof - especially the kind we wear in Japan, but wearing masks outside? That's just ridiculous. If others choose to do so, that's fine with me, but I never did that and always questioned why they didn't say this was not necessary. Anyway, finally they said it so that's good.

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the admission by both the CDC and Denmark that masks are nothing more than a tool to keep the populace in a state of stress

Would be really helpful if you post a link of where you got that

would be really helpful if you could direct me to a single real world data point where surgical masks (meant for surgery) have proven to save single life.

https://www.infectioncontroltoday.com/view/cloth-masks-are-useless-against-covid-19-redux-omicron-version

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the admission by both the CDC and Denmark that masks are nothing more than a tool to keep the populace in a state of stress

Would be really helpful if you post a link of where you got that

would be really helpful if you could direct me to a single real world data point where surgical masks (meant for surgery) have proven to save single life.

So nothing to substantiate your claim lol

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AbbeyToday  10:24 pm JST

Anybody sits near me on the train not wearing a mask and I will say something !

And what would that be?

Let me guess: "Finally! Someone who can think for themselves and doesn't need some bloviating authority telling them what to think and do. Now I feel better about going mask lesson the train too. Let's grab a beer!"

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Was actually looking forward to reading something of real value because the guy sounded really positive

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No need for them at all, unless you're seriously ill already and have to protect yourself from all sorts of nasties. And even then they're of limited value.

I never wear them outside, and less and less inside as well. I've never had covid as far as I can tell, and am unvaxxed and healthy.

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and the admission by both the CDC and Denmark that masks are nothing more than a tool to keep the populace in a state of stress

I'm being kind to you because it's quite late, but you seem to have either been massively misrepresented or you have been watching some really strange basement youtube.

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so the usual ignoring of real world results. And my citations

And still no counter argument with real world data that shows masks have any effect at all.

Because there is none.

Sad!

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Can anyone point me to a country by country (europe) or state by state (US) example where masks had a positive effect?

Anyone?

Anyone?

Anyone?.........

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And my citations. And still no counter argument with real world data that shows masks have any effect at all.

Your 'citation' says this

“when one exhales, coughs or sneezes, the particles are fairly directional and directed into the mask. One study estimated that cloth masks can stop up to 90% of droplets"

At no point whatsoever does it say this;

and the admission by both the CDC and Denmark that masks are nothing more than a tool to keep the populace in a state of stress,

So forgive us for absolutely ignoring everything you say.

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@master

US has 3031 Covid deaths per million people and Japan has 240. Everyone in Japan wears masks and America had a political meltdown to get people to wear masks and most people there just quit.

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@Nibek32

Has absolutely nothing to do with the mask. You are leaving out one very very impotent issue and a major one, peoples overall health. Over 75% of the supposed Covid deaths in the states are from people consider obese and most had diabetes.

I say supposed because we truly will never know the real number of actual deaths because so many people were marked as Covid deaths when in reality that was not why they died. Even Dr. Fauci had to admit that lie on national television because the CDC got caught lying about the number of children dying or infected.

Japan has one of the largest elderly populations in the world. I’ve worked at a care home here and they are by far healthier than their American counterparts.

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will never know the real number of actual deaths because so many people were marked as Covid deaths when in reality that was not why they died. Even Dr. Fauci had to admit that lie on national television because the CDC got caught lying about the number of children dying or infected.

Any source that can prove those deaths represent any significant number or the supposed lying?

One thing is to make compromises to deliver opportune information daily, another completely different is to correctly count the cases for the epidemiological analysis that come much later. It is understandable that some degree of overcounting (or not enough) happens for the quick releases, but that does not mean this is never corrected.

Can anyone point me to a country by country (europe) or state by state (US) example where masks had a positive effect?

Well, everywhere where masks were used, because they have a scientifically demonstrated positive effect preventing infections when used correctly. Why do you think all institutions of science or medicine coincide in the recommendation for masks? are all the experts wrong?

No need for them at all, unless you're seriously ill already and have to protect yourself from all sorts of nasties. And even then they're of limited value.

The experts say they are very useful to avoid infections no matter who you are, and that applies also for the people you are in contact with, not only for yourself. Everything in medicine is of "limited value", that does not mean everything is useless.

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Only place I wear a mask is at my job.

Unless someone's paying me to pretend to care about Covid, I'm not doing it.

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