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So the international community snubs NK's offer to come and verify the rocket before launching to prove it's a rocket with a satellite and not a missile, the US and other nations state matter-of-factly that it's a missile (again, while refusing to validate their claims), they then renege on promises of aid, and now demand to go to NK to check on their nuclear program?

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As expected. North Korea are very immature

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NK's offer to come and verify the rocket before launching to prove it's a rocket with a satellite and not a missile

I thought NK was just inviting them to watch the launch.

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When will the leaders of NK learn to be civilized. I feel so sorry for the people of NK to be led by such pathetic, selfish and insecure people...

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Should have followed the VICE guide of getting into North Korea - fly to Shenyang and bribe the North Korean consulate. That's what everyone does.

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the US and other nations state matter-of-factly that it's a missile (again, while refusing to validate their claims)

So Smitty, if your neighbor, who has his driver’s license suspended for DUI, is preparing to back his ’75 VW beetle out of the driveway, tells you he is not really going to drive, that this is not really a car, just a simulator to practice driving in, do you need a team of experts with PHDs to examine the vehicle and tell you that it really is a ’75VW? The missile the NKs were attempting to launch was just a thinly disguised ballistic missile, readily apparent to experts without taking it apart.

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smithinjapan

DPRK only invited journalists (not experts) to come view the pathetic excuse of a "satellite" which they displayed and observe the launch. Again, there is no hyprocrisy with demanding to have international inspectors permitted to inspect their nuclear development programs, civilian or otherwise.

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What do you expect? no food no look. The Americans have nothing they can do to force them besides conflict. They might as well do a 3rd atomic test. They have nothing to lose.

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Riffraff: "So Smitty, if your neighbor, who has his driver’s license suspended for DUI, is preparing to back his ’75 VW beetle out of the driveway..."

So you know it's a '75 beetle; as in, you've already verified it. Your bizarre analogy could only be slightly relevant if the car was hidden in a garage and you did not actually know what kind of car was in there, or if it actually was a simulator, and when invited to come and see the simulation, you decline because you simply believe it's the '75 VW you've seen years ago.

"The missile the NKs were attempting to launch was just a thinly disguised ballistic missile, readily apparent to experts without taking it apart."

Prove it. You can't, nor can anyone else, because it was mere speculation. Now, I'm not saying NK is/was beyond doubt -- I'm just saying no one can actually prove it.

USNinJapan2: "DPRK only invited journalists (not experts) to come view the pathetic excuse of a "satellite" which they displayed and observe the launch."

Agree it was pathetic, and an utter embarrassment to NK (not that they needed more, but hey).

"Again, there is no hyprocrisy with demanding to have international inspectors permitted to inspect their nuclear development programs, civilian or otherwise."

Can NK leaders/nuclear experts go inspect US nuclear programs? My guess is no, and so therefore it is indeed hypocritical.

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Of course North Korea dont have to bow at that 'puppet agency' known as IAEA, they were just a bunch of political stooges! North Korea is not the scenario of Iraq! She has all the supports from China and Russia! The US shall never able to change the attitudes of North Korea, an attack above the 38th parallel is a war decalring at Beijiang and Moscow! America and her allies shall never dared to wage any pre-emtive strikes to stop the North Korean nuclear sites! They knows the US troops will pay a heavy price that doesnt worth to pay!

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Of course North Korea dont have to bow at that 'puppet agency' known as IAEA

They do if they want to come out from under the shadow of isolation. I would venture a guess that even China and Russia are beginning to tire of carrying this albatross around.

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Next headline : "All options on the table : Obama"

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YuriOtani

The Americans have nothing they can do to force them besides conflict.

The Americans? Why do you equate the IAEA to the United States? Last time I checked it was a multi-national body based in Europe with over 30+ nationalities making up the governing body and 150+ member nations. THEY'RE the ones requiring North Korea to submit to inspections of their nuclear development program, NOT the U.S. The U.S. is involved in this only because we were able to get the DPRK regime to agree to halting their nuclear program and refraining from further tests (an agreement they've violated with the "satellite launch" and are about to again if they cook off a third nuke) in exchange for food aid. I know you don't miss a chance to scapegoat the U.S. on these threads but you may want to get your facts straight on this one.

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smithinjapan

Can NK leaders/nuclear experts go inspect US nuclear programs? My guess is no, and so therefore it is indeed hypocritical.

Why would the government of another nation have the right to inspect the U.S., or any nation's, nuclear program? That is the job of the IAEA and that is why it is the IAEA inspectors (NOT U.S. inspectors) who have the UN's mandate that are being prevented by the DPRK from inspecting their nuclear program. The answer is no, DPRK leaders/experts cannot inspect the U.S.' nuclear program, just as U.S. leaders/experts cannot inspect the DPRK's program. Because the UAEA does conduct inspections of U.S.' nuclear program, the same of which is being required of the DPRK, there is no hypocrisy.

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North Korea will not let inspectors from the International Atomic Energy Agency examine its nuclear program, Japanese media said Tuesday, citing unnamed diplomatic sources.

Neither does Israel let the IAEA inspect their Dimona nuclear site.

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Funny how Chinese spies consider the UN backed IAEA some kind of American controlled organization, when it is run by the UNITED NATIONS, but no surprise here, the Iranians and the North Koreans never seem to like the IAEA, why??

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Neither does Israel let the IAEA inspect their Dimona nuclear site.

Korea agreed to join NPT and follow IAEA rules and broke that agreement. Israel has never agreed to join and thus is not bound by them. Anyway, the subject is NK, why are you bringing up Israel?

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This is quite a pickle... People are dying over there. Nuclear tests or not, they're still dying. The U.S. should say that they're willing to give a second chance if they're willing to agree to larger encompassing guidelines (i.e. Not just "missile" tests banned but any tests that use missile technology.)

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YuriOtaniAPR. 17, 2012 - 12:38PM JST What do you expect? no food no look. The Americans have nothing they can do to force them besides conflict. They might as well do a 3rd atomic test. They have nothing to lose.

For somebody who seems to despise the US so much, you don't seem to have any problem living there, do you? Isn't Oklahoma a pretty hard core "I love America" place to live for somebody so anti-US?

Isn't the IAEA kind of one of those international organizations that you were referring to the other day that could just walk into the DPRK and freely look around to make sure everything is on the up an up?

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@YuriOtani

If you feel it's OK to kill Somali pirates as a deterrent against their killing people then would you be opposed to a tactical strike designed to take out the leadership of the DPRK. After all, the average North Korean dying from hunger is not a criminal, right? Wouldn't removing the DPRK leadership from the from the living be an act of self defense which at the same time helped out the average North Korea living in squalor. If it's against your Christian beliefs to let so many people die of hunger then wouldn't the use of force to help make things better be acceptable.

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What does North Korea have to fear about that IAEA? Are they backed by NATO ? The US and her allies shall never play toughs like they did in Iraq! After ten years war in Iraq and afghanistan, the US armed forces was just a paper tiger, their servicemen were tired and frustrated with those stupid wars! If the pentagon wants a Korean war 2, that will be very amusing!

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NK abandoned the NPT in 2003. There is a special article in this treaty, which says that "Each party shall in exercising its national sovereignty have the right to withdraw from the Treaty if it decides that extraordinary events, related to the subject matter of this Treaty, have jeopardized the supreme interests of its country." and the year 2003 was very extraordinary indeed.

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From the look of Kim Jong-Un he is eating most of the nations food supply.

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hameln

DPRK withdrew from the NPT in 2003 because the U.S. accused them of a military-grade uranium enrichment program, which turned out to be very true as evdient from DPRK's own declaration of the same and test detonation of a nuclear weapon three years later. Is that what you meant by 2003 being an extraordinary year?

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@Usninjapan

No, I was refering to "axis of evil" policy. It gave NK legal option to withdraw from the treaty.

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Judging from the most recent attempt by NK we've got nothing to worry about. The warhead would just fall back down onto them.

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The test was a SUCCESSFUL ballistic missile test. Nothing entered orbit. The satellite that was onboard was nothing important and dirt cheap as satellites go. I daresay even N.K. could build a more useful satellite without too much trouble, yet they didn't.. The "satellite" was just there to simulate the weight of a warhead.

Want proof? N.K. publicly called the launch "a failure". When has N.K. EVER told the truth to the public regarding their missile program? I put it to you that they STILL haven't publicly told the truth.

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So let me get this straight, NK invites people in, people refuse, go hog crazy and act like chicken little. Missile doesn't go anywhere and food aid is stopped. Now invited countries are demanding to be let in and NK is telling them to piss off. Am I missing anything?

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Well, looks like starvation in NK like usual. Let them fall apart from the inside.

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hameln

No, I was refering to "axis of evil" policy. It gave NK legal option to withdraw from the treaty.

LOL. That's a new one.

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tmarie

Am I missing anything?

Yes. The point.

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So let me get this straight, NK invites people in, people refuse, go hog crazy and act like chicken little. Missile doesn't go anywhere and food aid is stopped. Now invited countries are demanding to be let in and NK is telling them to piss off. Am I missing anything?

You're missing just about everything as it turns out. International representatives DID show up and take a look at the satellite to confirm is was what N.K. said it was. It doesn't take a rep from EVERY country to do that. The United States said they would provide food if N.K. stops its nuclear weapon and missile programs. The missile involved had the Philippines worried the most, as the launch was aimed right at it. As it turned out, the missile landed in the water just short of the Philippines. Coincidence? After the launch the U.S. said, "I guess that means N.K. didn't really need the food aid." and withdrew the offer. N.K. then used the U.S. response as a pretext to back out of the agreements it had made up until now. THIS IS NOTHING NEW. N.K. has used this tactic for decades. Rattle a sword or two, get a concession, then find some pretext to back out of the agreement so they're free to do what they want again. Rinse, repeat.

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This will go on and on until Russia and (mostly) China decide that things will change. Until Western leaders impress upon China that any more misbehavior from NK will negatively impact China diplomatically and economically, we can expect more of the same.

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USin, what exactly is your point?

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I'm pretty sure the Chinese would prefer a regime change for the sake of stability, but as long as they perceive that they're being pushed around by the U.S (who they would prefer out of Asia altogether for hegemony's sake), Japan or even South Korea, they will opt for the status-quo and N.K will continue to get away with all their atrocities...Not to mention the complete collapse and disorder which could arise from a sudden change from within or without of that hermit country- which would be unparalleled in scale.

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IAEA is a toothless tiger, convenient for some.

The only reason NK won't let them in is that their friends the Iranians didn't like critical IAEA reports complaining about non-admittance to certain facilities, which negative reports may be used by the US, Israel etc., to justify a) b) or c).

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When will USA learn. NK will not bow to any country especially USA. Just stop all the aid. They are just using those aid to strengthen their military. Beside China is their Godfather giving them what they need. You can never trust communists.

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