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What status quo?

The status quo of the JSDF not being constitutionally recognized.

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P. SmithToday  06:56 am JST

Perhaps those who are against amending the 2nd Paragraph of Article 9 so that the existence of the JSDF will be constitutionally recognized might reconsider their views. Getting SDF help after each Typhoon and Earthquake obviously was not enough.

Why would we reconsider our views when, by your own admission, the status quo is working well?

What status quo?

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Nurses routinely work 12 hour days/nights-this is why so many are not available and the pay is not commensurate with the work.

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Perhaps those who are against amending the 2nd Paragraph of Article 9 so that the existence of the JSDF will be constitutionally recognized might reconsider their views. Getting SDF help after each Typhoon and Earthquake obviously was not enough.

Why would we reconsider our views when, by your own admission, the status quo is working well?

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Unable to secure some 130 nurses to provide care for 30 patients at the new facility

I profess zero knowledge regarding the necessities of hospitals, but a 4.3 to 1 ratio of nurses to patients seems a bit high. Again, I have no idea whether it is, so if someone else can educate me on this, I’ll be quite appreciative.

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@OreiO

Covid-19 care, which wasn't in their field of expertise

Of course it wasn't their "field of expertise," it's a brand new disease. It's not as if they learned about it at college or university.

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I hope not too late.

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Japan now forced to take measures that were news in worse-hit measures 8 months ago. Now those worse-hit countries are starting to roll out the vaccine, which Japan will also likely be 8 months late with, tying it all up in red tape, and the desire to use a locally produced vaccine before a 'foreign' one.

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my wife’s hospital has 40+ cases (staff) and running on empty. Still only testing when people get sick, retarded! Can’t get her to quit. In my opinion this is when Japan is gonna see a real wave/tsunami. Her emergency work line app group won’t shut up.

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Even with an effective vaccine this problem will continue unless health authorities stop treating patients as they have the plague and instead treat patients as regular patients. The inability to staff hospitals is due to all the restrictions placed on doctors and nurses both in and out of work.

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It is ludicrous that a country like Japan can not treat 530 serious cases. How can anyone still find excuses.

lets Say there would be 5000 serious cases. That would require maximum 2000 doctors and 25000 nurses.

Don’t have them in Japan ?

really ?

then send in all those university professors, virologists on tv, dentists ( all with nurse qualifications as a standard) .

it is a disgrace and a shame for Japan to the world. Of course there are no nurses “ specialised” in infectious diseases. No country has them. But in no country in the world have I seen doctors or nurses run like rabbits.

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The first big "fuyugata" winter weather pattern, high to the west, low to the north east is coming early next week according to both the US and European weather models. We'll get a big blast of winter with freezing or near freezing temps all over the shop and big snow all along the Japan Sea side (yes, the ski resorts too). Asahikawa in the story is likely to get big snow and hit minus 10C, as it usually does in December.

If cold weather bumps up the infection rate, the authorities have a week left to prepare for it.

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I think it's your assertion that hospitals must be run non-profit. On paper, maybe. But that's a little starry-eyed.

Not my assertion but what it states in law. I have been very involved with the national health service for the past couple of years has a patient. I also know several doctors who have private clinics or work in hospitals.

Personally I have been very impressed with the health service especially so because they saved my life.

But I was trying to understand how the governor of Osaka can reduce hospital beds and close a nurses school.

As for the Pharma and drugs they offer all sorts of bribes to the doctors, like a free trip to a doctors conference in Hawaii, all expenses paid.

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zichiToday  08:51 pm JST

So no one could answer my question just a negative vote without contributions

I think it's your assertion that hospitals must be run non-profit. On paper, maybe. But that's a little starry-eyed.

One of my students, a few years ago, worked for a pharmaceutical company and enlightened me on procedures necessary to get their drugs accepted at hospital$$$...

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So no one could answer my question just a negative vote without contributions

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Its not a question of a lack of nurses. One of my son's friend's mums is in hospital administration. She told me nurses are quitting at a much higher rate than before the pandemic hit and the influx of new nurses has slowed. Too much stress and risk for too little pay it seems. If front line workers were paid more for the essential jobs they do , which we can't do without, the attrition rate might be considerably lower.

All this is the effect of spreading the virus

So people, don't spread the virus - ya may find yourself lacking care when ya need it the most

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As always relying on the SDF for help. Same military which gets attacked frequently, now asking their help.

When your allies are busy with their own problems,... Always going back to the SDF.

Pacifist and herbivors this is why a country needs SDF at a minimum. Not always about fighting wars which can happen easily because of aggressive neighbors.

You also have Earthquakes, Tsunami, Fukushima damage, natural disasters which we use the SDF for All The Time!

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Didn’t the J-Gov just throw a whole heap of money at this problem? lol!

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Governor Yoshimura and his fellow politicians from Ishin closed a nurses’ school and drastically reduced hospital beds in Osaka in the name of cost cutting.

Do you have link for that because I couldn't find one. Hospitals are private business so I don't know how the governor could reduce the bed numbers.

 Hospitals, by law, must be run as non-profit and be managed by physicians.

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Governor Yoshimura and his fellow politicians from Ishin closed a nurses’ school and drastically reduced hospital beds in Osaka in the name of cost cutting. Now they’re asking the central government to clean up the mess they’ve created.

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Perhaps those who are against amending the 2nd Paragraph of Article 9 so that the existence of the JSDF will be constitutionally recognized might reconsider their views. Getting SDF help after each Typhoon and Earthquake obviously was not enough.

@ Ossan - well argued. This emergency is a clear-cut reason as to why Article 9 MUST be scrapped, and the Japanese Military desperately needs a big expansion. Setting up huge Military base hospitals rapidly in emergencies is vital. Certainly a much bigger Military will help with frequent natural disasters too.

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Hirofumi Yoshimura san - the only politician in Japan taking this pandemic seriously.

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Pay them 25% over normal salaries and they’ll be a stampede of feet!!!

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JSDF will Go to Hospital. Discount coupons?

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Not surprising that Japan is turning to military help. Other nations have been doing it months ago.

Perhaps those who are against amending the 2nd Paragraph of Article 9 so that the existence of the JSDF will be constitutionally recognized might reconsider their views. Getting SDF help after each Typhoon and Earthquake obviously was not enough.

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If front line workers were paid more for the essential jobs they do , which we can't do without, the attrition rate might be considerably lower.

Impossible, paying frontline workers more might result in less money for bonuses for J-politicians, bureaucratic deadwood and so on... priorities..can't be done, sorry.

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I just read on NHK that Asahikawa in Hokkaido also requested the SDF nurses.

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Its not a question of a lack of nurses. One of my son's friend's mums is in hospital administration. She told me nurses are quitting at a much higher rate than before the pandemic hit and the influx of new nurses has slowed. Too much stress and risk for too little pay it seems. If front line workers were paid more for the essential jobs they do , which we can't do without, the attrition rate might be considerably lower.

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At a hospital designated has a Covid-19 one, 22 medical staff resigned. 4 doctors and 18 nurses.

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This might just be the beginning of Japan's wake up call to the reality that has plagued most of the world for nearly ten months. How the Japanese government is going to spin this will be interesting considering they have been in full on denial mode the whole time.

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JeffLeeToday  04:28 pm JST

Does the fact that dozens of staff, nurses and doctors, have quit their jobs at an Osaka hospital after it was designated as a Covid treatment have anything to do this shortfall?

A lot of them quit because they were assigned (read 'coerced') to Covid-19 care, which wasn't in their field of expertise, with no extra compensation. I shudder to think of PPE supplies. Tragic for all, but I can partly empathise.

Now Osaka, in characteristic parsimonious fashion, is trying to get Nurses on the cheap, rather than take appropriate care and responsibility for its staff and patients (30 beds...) itself.

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Does the fact that dozens of staff, nurses and doctors, have quit their jobs at an Osaka hospital after it was designated as a Covid treatment have anything to do this shortfall?

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Ok, just don't stop Go To Travel and Go To Eat.

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Whilst a patient is in hospital, Is all of this health care being funded by the patients personal insurance? or is the cost being met by the J government ?

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I wonder when the J Gov't will accept this is becoming a problem.

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...30 beds equipped with ventilators. It plans to add 30 more beds in the future.

60 beds in total when this has been on the horizon for months. Lost for words.....

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