Pfizer COVID vaccine clears Japan panel for use with young children

Lol at the apnews and gavi links as reference. The very people that are pushing the vaccines are writing those articles so of course they'll state that it's safe.

virusrexToday  11:46 am JST

That might be true if these jabs actually stopped transmission, but they don't.

That is completely incorrect, if the vaccines reduce transmission (and the data proves they do) that is enough to justify saying that vaccination benefit the public health in general.

That might be true if the masks prevented transmission and people wore them exactly as directed and changed them every couple of hours. But they don't.

The same mistaken argument, as long as masks reduce the transmission (and they have been proved to do it) and a significant percentage of the population wears them properly that makes the argument of their benefit to public health true.

Misrepresenting the situation as if it could only be a 100% or else 0% effectiveness is what makes the arguments misleading and incorrect.

Complete garbage, even the CDC have been forced to backtrack on their original dishonest proclamations. And when they even bother to wear masks in public, they whip them off straight after the cameras are off.

That might be true if these jabs actually stopped transmission, but they don't.

That is completely incorrect, if the vaccines reduce transmission (and the data proves they do) that is enough to justify saying that vaccination benefit the public health in general.

That might be true if the masks prevented transmission and people wore them exactly as directed and changed them every couple of hours. But they don't.

The same mistaken argument, as long as masks reduce the transmission (and they have been proved to do it) and a significant percentage of the population wears them properly that makes the argument of their benefit to public health true.

Misrepresenting the situation as if it could only be a 100% or else 0% effectiveness is what makes the arguments misleading and incorrect.

You are a vaccine free-rider. You benefit from the communal immunity given by mass-vaccination but do nothing to contribute to public health.

That might be true if these jabs actually stopped transmission, but they don't.

And riding mass transportation without is mask isn't just unsafe, it's anti-social. (There are other words to describe it as well, but none of them would escape moderation.)

That might be true if the masks prevented transmission and people wore them exactly as directed and changed them every couple of hours. But they don't.

What else you have in that quiver of shuttlecocks to hurl at us?

You are a vaccine free-rider. 

Haha yeah, right. I will however stay vaccine free.

What I find completely hilarious is that there is NO report (if any) provided of the amount of children infected that would lead "A Japanese health ministry" (begs the question: Is there more than one ministry?) to receive this shot?!

Must be hard a hard decision to make for a parent.

It wasn't hard at all for me. I got my kids the vaxx as soon as they were able to.

I'm at 4x myself. I've caught covid a total of zero times, and never wear a mask.

6 months old??? Never!!!

You mean like all the other vaccinations the kids get starting at that age or younger?

Oh the horror!

Based on recommendations from our pediatrician my kids will not receive this experimental vaccine.

Either you didn't talk to an actual pediatrician or your's is a quack and you need a Dr. who has graduated from medical school and has a functioning brain.

https://youtu.be/JbrKAOXQSxg

Must be hard a hard decision to make for a parent.

Yes, unfortunately the vast majority of parents are never exposed to this kind of information.

For real informed consent, people must be well informed.

Must be hard a hard decision to make for a parent.

I don't think it is hard decision to make. Not giving your child something that might harm them with very little benefit is an easy decision to come to. Why would you trust the pharma companies to do the right thing? Just google "largest fine in criminal history". Now, would you entrust your child to them?

Maybe if the child is vulnerable and high risk of complications from a covid infection the vaccine could be an option. But in cases like this healthy 13 boy who died the same night after taking the shot you really have to consider the risk/reward. No definitive link between his death and the vaccine… but really… Do you think he would have died if he hadn’t taken the shot that day?

https://youtu.be/JbrKAOXQSxg

Must be hard a hard decision to make for a parent.

The actual data (peer reviewed studies, not press releases) clearly show that for young people, the serious adverse effects from the vaccines are much greater than from the virus. That was already true with the first variants, today it is much more so.

This madness must stop!

Don't confuse science with political science, and do not let them give shots to children. Very dangerous and sickening.

What are the differences in safety profile you are using?

Goingboff publisbed data from CDC, NIH, Etc

Used to be once and done now its going to be maybe 6 times a year and for what to prevent a cough and fever

Read the reference provided, Omicron is not just "a cough and fever" and there is risk even for children, if this risk can be lowered with vaccination what argument do you have not to let parents make this very rational decsion.

My guess is these vaccines are more than just a covid prevention and its scary

So a baseless "guess" should triumph medical evidence? What if someone is guessing the opposite? will that make vaccination now positive in your personal opinion?

Tried and tested vaccines, with a much higher safety profile are fine in my opinion.

What are the differences in safety profile you are using? obviously just making up something is not a real argument. What is the threshold you decided is adequate to discard the responsibility you have as a parent to make the best decision according to the evidence? Choosing not to vaccinate is already a decision, and if it can be demonstrated to be the one with more risk that goes against the responsibility of the parents.

Make it stop! This madness is unjustifiable! Obese diabetic over 80. Vacinate away! 6 months old??? Never!!!

So, health care professionals including pediatricians say this is necessary and very beneficial according to the epidemiological data that proves covid is a serious risk even for children, but nameless people on the internet say they know better and all the doctors are just wrong?

Not realy an argument.

Make it stop! This madness is unjustifiable! Obese diabetic over 80. Vacinate away! 6 months old??? Never!!!

My kids can have these when they are 18 and can make their own decisions and have informed consent andbif they choose to.

Disclaimer: this refers to the mRNA or current therapies only made for so-called emergencies. Tried and tested vaccines, with a much higher safety profile are fine in my opinion.

Benefits must outweigh risks when diligently choosing medical choices for children (or oneself)

It's gone too far now, the drug companies are raking in billions on our new dependancies of their vaccines.

Used to be once and done now its going to be maybe 6 times a year and for what to prevent a cough and fever.

My guess is these vaccines are more than just a covid prevention and its scary

 don't understand why parents would want to give their kids high fevers or any other side effects that come from those shots. I get it that the chances of being effect in a negative way are very slim, but why risk it especially since the new variants of covid will give you an equivalent fever to the one u will get from the shot?

That is because your assumption is mistaken, children can get very serious disease even from the Omicron variant and this is a very important risk, much more significative than the side effects from being vaccinated. This risk is increasing and it is the reason why pediatricians have asked for approval of the vaccines, if you have the best interests of a child in mind the vaccines are the rational option.

https://www.asahi.com/ajw/articles/14733632

I don't understand why parents would want to give their kids high fevers or any other side effects that come from those shots. I get it that the chances of being effect in a negative way are very slim, but why risk it especially since the new variants of covid will give you an equivalent fever to the one u will get from the shot? Also, is there a coincidence that heart attacks in kids has increased after these shots became available to them?

There are tens of thousands of doctors and other suitably qualified medical professionals around the world who recognize that these vaccines are not as safe or effective as the makers and their PR wings want you to believe

And yet you fail to bring even one recognized institution of science or medicine that says so, because according to you every single one of them, all over the world are in a supposed conspiracy that would damage the health of their members and their families.

That is not a believable argument by anybody with even a small amount of common sense.

my 6 year old son got vaccinated with no symptoms at all. My 4 year old was deemed too young to be vaccinated but hopefully now she will be.

Based on recommendations from our pediatrician my kids will not receive this experimental vaccine.

Since this vaccine is not experimental if your pediatrician called it this way this means it would be better to find a better prepared doctor to take care of the health of your family.

Where is the research outlining the risks vs benefits of the mRNA treatments on children as young as 6 months?

There aren’t any…

One thing is to ignore something, another very different is to blindly assume the professionals that take care of the health of children ignore as much as you,

https://www.gavi.org/vaccineswork/covid-vaccines-children-under-five-what-parents-need-know?gclid=Cj0KCQjw1vSZBhDuARIsAKZlijTFz9JETDrFUBdf3CoAIpqBlmcisWcxceDIF8KYkZVzVvNV1Vp50LMaAp-uEALw_wcB

LOL can't wait for the coping. When the "scientific community" negates the "scientific community".

Well, since the argument is demonstrably false, this is again just another example of using misleading things when the actual arguments (and the scientific community) do not support what you want others to believe.

David BrentToday  08:19 am JST

@Algernon LaCroix : Which medical school did you graduate from?

Are you only reading the anti-vaxx sites or something?

I think it is pretty obvious he is!

Which one did you graduate from?

You don't need a medical degree to be able to spot disinformation. There are tens of thousands of doctors and other suitably qualified medical professionals around the world who recognize that these vaccines are not as safe or effective as the makers and their PR wings want you to believe. They're coming out of the woodwork now that it's safer to do so.

6 months old???

WTF...completely crazy!!!

The vast majority of European countries have banned the shots for infants.

Any link for this? obviously misrepresenting the real situation is not a valid argument.

Is it the same for the Denamark example that is false?

https://apnews.com/article/fact-check-Denmark-vaccine-children-439807145775

Denmark has now banned these vaccines for this very reason.

LOL can't wait for the coping. When the "scientific community" negates the "scientific community".

Unless a child has serious comorbidities, the risk from harm due to these vaccines is far greater than the risk that the virus itself poses.

That's not what the non-quack scientific community is saying. Are you only reading the anti-vaxx sites or something? You seem a bit out of touch with the whole reality thing, and what is actually going on in the scientific community...

Where is the research outlining the risks vs benefits of the mRNA treatments on children as young as 6 months?

There aren’t any…

Sick. Leave the kids alone.

To the much higher risks of infection? that makes no sense, there is a reason why pediatricians support covid vaccination for children.

6 months old?? At such a young developmental stage why would you deem that necessary?

Precisely because of that, protecting small children from risks to their health is one of the responsibilities adults have. Thanks to this children that are at an special disadvantage and can die from respiratory infections easily can have some protection and th

6 months old?? At such a young developmental stage why would you deem that necessary?

Sick. Leave the kids alone.