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Four Russian warships were spotted sailing through a strait in northeastern Japan, 

And....?....this is news because?

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ok.

open google map.

look for Ukraine.

than check where is Japan.

thank-try to think if possible...

and now let me believe that Russia will move troops to Ukraine by vessel passing Japan...can you give me a break guys?

this is not even pathetic,this just too primitive to believe...

hint-if Russia wants move troops to Ukraine can do it shorter and easier way since have border with UA...and for this reason dont need to use ship from another part of world to do so...goodbye common sense???

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Did the JMSDF not challenge the Russian ships?

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marcelitoToday  05:13 pm JST

Four Russian warships were spotted sailing through a strait in northeastern Japan, 

And....?....this is news because?

Russia is invading another country. Maybe you missed it.

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Maybe it's going to Kaliningrad. If they're going to Ukraine, they will need to cross Turkey again and Turkey will not let them through.

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They do not have enough landing craft for the all-out attack on Odesa. The few they do have are still busy at Mariupol. It makes sense to bring round what they have from Vladivostok. Russian armoured land forces advancing from the Crimea have been badly held up and Putin is angry at the Navy’s lack of support so far.

If Turkey does not allow them through, then they will either dock at the Russian base in Syria and wait for an opportunity or go round to Kaliningrad as ‘justasking’ says above.

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Safe to say this intelligence was passed on the the Ukrainian authorities so that they can take action when the ships approach Ukraine coastline. Ie sink them!

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By the time they arrive and unload their weaponry, hopefully the war will be over and Russia will have planted flowers in the rubble heaps they created before withdrawing.

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marcelitoToday  05:13 pm JST

Four Russian warships were spotted sailing through a strait in northeastern Japan, 

And....?....this is news because?

Reports have indicated that Putin is scouring Russia for additonal troops for his invasion of Ukraine including the Fareast. Try keeping up with the news and you won't be so lost.

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Thunderbird2Today  05:31 pm JST

Did the JMSDF not challenge the Russian ships?

If the Russian vessels did not enter Japanese territorial waters, on what grounds could they be challenged by the JMSDF?

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This is key information I found on another source: "The Tsugaru Strait is designated as an international strait, meaning that areas 3 nautical miles or more from the coasts is regarded the same as the high seas and therefore open to foreign ships."

Maybe Japan should get that changed.
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How many days it takes to go from east most part of Russia to West most part of Russia, where Ukraine is, by sea and by land?

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Four Russian warships were spotted sailing through a strait in northeastern Japan, possibly transporting troops and combat vehicles to Ukraine, the Japanese Defense Ministry said.

Sounds like a lot of guess work is going on in this article. Anyway, that's Kyodo for you.

Well, I guess the ships will go to port somewhere in Russia, close to a train station and the troops and combat vehicles will have to buy train tickets to Ukraine as Turkey closed the Black Sea Passage 2 weeks ago...

https://asia.nikkei.com/Politics/Ukraine-war/Turkey-blocks-Black-Sea-passage-for-Russian-naval-vessels

And once arriving at the borders to Ukraine will the troops and combat vehicles need to use what the Ukrainians have left of the roads as they already blew up all the bridges and railroads into Ukraine over the last few weeks...

If these ships really do transport anything destined for Ukraine me thinks they will be pretty late to the party.

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Do not take your eyes of China....Smoke and mirrors...Now we have Russian and Chinese vessels lurking in the area. I feel all warm and fuzzy inside. How about you?

For the chain of command if I may.

“All warfare is based on deception. Hence, when we are able to attack, we must seem unable; when using our forces, we must appear inactive; when we are near, we must make the enemy believe we are far away; when far away, we must make him believe we are near.”

― Sun tzu, The Art of War

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How on earth would you get these ships there by road and rail?

Whatever they are carrying will be useful of course, but of secondary importance.

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Get the h-ll out ! Russian garbage.

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The spotted 10 ships last week.

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Getting the troops ready for Taiwan landing with their China ally.

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Russia is invading another country. Maybe you missed it.

Reports have indicated that Putin is scouring Russia for additonal troops for his invasion of Ukraine including the Fareast. Try keeping up with the news and you won't be so lost.

Thanks for your expert input....i read daily news in 3 languages in detail but i guess im not so up to date as you two by the sound of it. Still...why is this top news....There has been no confrontation of any sort with the ships. Putin is moving armor/ weapons all over the place. NATO is as well. These ships just sailed by and it was top news on JT site this morning, ?

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There was two fleets of Russian navy vessels that passed through the strait .

A few hours apart from each other.

And they weren't in Japanese waters.

The article seems to be either misleading or incorrectly translated.

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I long for the old days when people would look at a map and look at seagoing traffic through international straits before pounding on a keyboard.

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Still...why is this top news....There has been no confrontation of any sort with the ships. Putin is moving armor/ weapons all over the place. NATO is as well. These ships just sailed by and it was top news on JT site this morning, ?

It's 'top news' because JT believe it is of 'top' interest to readers. Would you prefer less information?

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Pathetic. A strong country with a real army and real men would've blown those ships up upon sight.

Did the JMSDF not challenge the Russian ships?

No, unfortunately Japan was emasculated when they lost WWII

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@marcelito Russia is invading another country. Maybe you missed it. I don't think Russia had the man power to fight any country. Putin is hiring foreign troops and now has to suck up to Xi!!!

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@Thunderbird2

Did the JMSDF not challenge the Russian ships?

They have the right of passage.

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In the early 20th century they sent a fleet from the Baltic to the east to be sunk. Now they are sending one the other way, same result? We hope so but wait and see.

It’s news in Japan because though it’s international waters it is very rare that Russia sends ships through that strait. Naturally the question arises why and for what purpose?

Sending troops and heavy armour by the trans Siberian rail line screws up all the scheduled traffic and supplies, is slow and they are known to be having difficulties so sending stuff by sea may be both easier and quicker.

Poo tin is stripping the eastern command to feed in to the meat grinder that his quick invasion of Ukraine has turned in to. Can China resist the temptation to take back the lands they claim are theirs from the Russian empire?

SLAVA UKRAINE

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Pathetic. A strong country with a real army and real men would've blown those ships up upon sight.

Did the JMSDF not challenge the Russian ships?

No, unfortunately Japan was emasculated when they lost WWII

The Tsugaru Strait is international waters. Japan's territorial waters inside the strait extend only 3nm from the shores of Hondo and Hokkaido. Under international maritime law any nation's ships may transit those straits. Japan is not legally empowered to stop ships from using them.

Where it gets interesting is if those four ships attempt to pass through the Dardanelles. Turkey controls those straits under the terms of the Montreux Convention. That convention signed in 1936 and to which Russia is a signatory (as the USSR) allows Turkey to close the straits to naval vessels in times of war. Last week Turkey invoked that paragraph of the treaty. The only exception now is that Turkey cannot restrict passage of warships returning to their home base. Russia has already sent multiple similar ships from the Mediterranean through the straits into the Black Sea to conduct amphibious operations against Ukraine. They were already in the Black Sea before the war commenced. Now they cannot leave. I will be watching to see if Russia is going to try to send these four ships through the Dardanelles and what Turkey does if Russia tries. This folks could be how NATO gets sucked into a war with the Russians.

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@kaimycahl

I don't think Russia had the man power to fight any country. Putin is hiring foreign troops and now has to suck up to Xi!!!

That maybe what they want you to think but they have over 1 million active military and over 2 million reserves.

and everybody between the ages of 18 -27 have to do a full year of military service.

Only reason to hire foreign troops is cannon fodder why waste your good troops first when you can send in others to soak up the bullets.

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That maybe what they want you to think but they have over 1 million active military and over 2 million reserves.

No. The active duty strength of the Russian ground forces is 280,000. Of that total, there are 170 Battalion Combat Teams, the basic fighting unit of the Russian Army that are considered to be permanent readiness units. A battalion has 900-1000 troops at full strength so assuming all of those BCTs are fully manned (they are not) that gives the Russians 170,000 front line troops. The rest are support, logistics, communications and other non-combat specialties. Some of that 280K is also Army Aviation. About 150,000 front line troops were deployed to Ukraine, the great majority of Russia's BCTs.

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Interesting article describes the organization of Russian ground forces and their reserves, which are apparently meager.

https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/explainer-russian-conscription-reserve-and-mobilization

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As others have pointed out, the distance from access to Ukraine diminishes the likelihood that these ships are on a mission related to that intervention. But, one can only guess and, for many here, predictably wishfully.

This is key information I found on another source: "The Tsugaru Strait is designated as an international strait, meaning that areas 3 nautical miles or more from the coasts is regarded the same as the high seas and therefore open to foreign ships."

Maybe Japan should get that changed.

So, you agree with the Chinese claims in the South China Sea...are you a PRC troll?

Interesting article describes the organization of Russian ground forces and their reserves, which are apparently meager.

Yep. Kind of unusual in the face of the shouting about the "WARMONGERING RUSSIANS" and their propapandistically hypothesized desire to "TAKE OVER THE WORLD". Perhaps it's the many thousands and thousands of combat troops they have stationed in bases in countries all over the world...oh, wait...

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and now let me believe that Russia will move troops to Ukraine by vessel passing Japan...can you give me a break guys?

Give a break? that's what Innocent Ukrainian mothers and children are asking Putin's hordes bombing them to do. Russians go home is like the Yankee go home cry of decades past. Russia is once again a pariah state.And while the Russian bombers s are being begged to go home, so are the Russian keyboard warriors cheering on their fellow invaders.

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As others have pointed out, the distance from access to Ukraine diminishes the likelihood that these ships are on a mission related to that intervention. 

Something the Russians said today makes me think their destination isn't Ukraine but rather Bosnia.

https://www.irinsider.org/easterncentral-europe/2021/3/25/russia-threatens-bosnia-over-nato-cooperation

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