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Japan has paid and apologized for its crimes, yet South Korea continues to victimize itself and indoctrinate its children to believe they're owed something. The Koreans are so obsessed with victimizing themselves that they set themselves on fire at protests and tried to make it mandatory to put stickers in classrooms that say “This device was made by a war criminal”. As a child, I grew up with my own parents constantly reminding me of what Japan did seventy years ago as if it happened yesterday.

Meanwhile, the Moon administration dissolved the comfort women fund that Japan started, and last year, it was discovered a Korean activist group was embezzling money meant for the surviving comfort women.

Such behavior is self-righteous, self-harming, and makes me ashamed to be Korean.

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This is an example of why the judiciary must be an independent branch of the government not answerable to either the Executive or Legislative branches, or public opinion. Life tenure for judges also helps to insulate them from political pressure. Good job by this South Korean court.

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@Desert Tortoise

This is an example of why the judiciary must be an independent branch of the government 

The same independent judiciary ruled that Japan was held for damages caused by illegal forced conscription by Imperial Japan and was not protected by the 1965 Treaty.

This ruling is a technical one(statue of limitations) that doesn't affect lawsuits filed before the deadline.

Speaking of damages lawsuit, Nippon Steel is arguing in its appeal case this week that it is willing to pay the ordered damages, but is prevented from doing so by Japanese government.

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Time for a change.

Time for something different. A different approach from the apologies and compensation which we have tried since 1965 only to back fire later down the road for decades!

It's gotten so bad that the Comfort Women deal and apology signed in 2015 only lasted until 2017.

South Korea getting It's way for 56th times In A Row=Nothing is fixed. Relations gets worse. No compensation is good enough. No apology sincere enough.

Japan Getting It's Way=S.Korea winning. Why. How??

Added to Best Friends List Again. Only one in Asia.

Japan being insurance policy #2 for helping S. Korea in time of need. Especially Military Need.

Japan holding more responsibility in East Asia by joining part of Quad Alliance and Supporting Taiwan While S. Korea gets A Big Pass on Such Responsibilities.

Japan and S. Korea can do major projects together benefiting both of our countries.

Japan and S.Korea Space Agencies can Achieve a lot more together then apart.

What's Holding Us Back For Decades???

South Korea

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Basu

You don't see it this way. I know you don't. No comment would ever change your mind.

But....

Your hurting Japan-South Korea Relations if We Repeat The Same Mistake You Advise Japan To Do. More apologies. More compensation.

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The plaintiffs should demand any compensation from the South Korean government, which is faster for settlement and most reasonable. President Moon has never denied the 1965 accord.

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@ReasonandWisdomNippon

if We Repeat The Same Mistake You Advise Japan To Do. More apologies. More compensation.

The Japanese politician that Koreans fear most is Ishiba Shigeru.

Why? Because he's offering to do exactly what Koreans are demanding Japan to do, that is to apologize to comfort women in person and settle with forced labors, and issue apologies every year if Koreans asked to. Why? Because only Ishiba is smart enough to realize Japan cannot survive when facing China alone and must drag Korea into Japan's defense, so Japan's survival depends on improving relations with Korea and forming a trilateral alliance that US is demanding on Korea.

Of course Koreans don't want to get dragged into Japan's war with China, so they are happy with the likes of Abe and Suga, who are seen as running Japan into ground and prevent the formation of the trilateral alliance that Koreans don't want.

So Koreans are perfectly fine with deteriorating relations with Japan as they see it as benefiting them.

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Move on South Korea. Stop playing the victim for internal political gain.

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@noriahojanen

The plaintiffs should demand any compensation from the South Korean government,

Korean government is not responsible for the forced conscription of laborers, Japanese government and sued Japanese companies are.

President Moon has never denied the 1965 accord.

The 1965 treaty doesn't cover damages by illegal actions of Imperial Japan. Hence these damages lawsuits against Japanese companies that benefited from forced laborers.

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The 1965 treaty doesn't cover damages by illegal actions of Imperial Japan. Hence these damages lawsuits against Japanese companies that benefited from forced laborers.

Wrong. The SK government received the fund specifically for former Korean labors under the 1965 pact. The Korean officials have yet to pay up, thus should be charged of negligence or embezzlement.

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The Japanese politician that Koreans fear most is Ishiba Shigeru.

This. Ishiba Shigeru is probably the most competent and crafty Japanese politician yet. He is an absolute realpolitik who is smart enought to make pragmatic policies like compensating for Japan's forced labour and comfort women dispute, knowing that denying such historical facts will cost Japan's political leverage and influence in the long term. After all, having a very strong economic and military alliance with South Korea is the most effective buffer Japan can put up against threats like China and Russia, which Ishiba is smart enough to recognise.

Despite his superior leadership skills and statesmanship, Ishiba's pragmatic "pro-Korea" stance runs in oppsition to the overwheling majority of stupid and incompetent LDP politicians like Abe, who are merely opportunistic career politicians willing to tout historical revisionism and ultra-nationalism to win votes. Ishiba tends to prefer making his own power base rather than standing in line and conforming to LDP traditions, which irks other members and makes him seem like an upstart.

It would be in Japan's best interests (and NOT in Korean interests) to have Ishiba as the next prime minister, but given that he's not as popular as other candidates in his party, he probably won't be a PM.

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Life is too short to hang on to the bitterness of long past tragedies. Time to move on to happier days.

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@noriahojanen

The SK government received the fund specifically for former Korean labors under the 1965 pact. 

Wrong, they were only for the unpaid wages, not the damages for illegal conscription.

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Another day, more whining from South Korea. What can you expect when their school curriculum specifically teaches the kids that Japanese are the enemy.

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Japan has maintained that issues relating to property and claims between the two countries and their peoples stemming from the colonial rule have been settled "completely and finally" under the 1965 bilateral accord, under which Japan provided grants and loans to South Korea.

Looks like the plaintiffs should seek justice suing their own government...

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The 1965 treaty doesn't cover damages by illegal actions of Imperial Japan. Hence these damages lawsuits against Japanese companies that benefited from forced laborers.

What were illegal actions? Only Koreans think everything was illegal, even after 2001 A Reconsideration of the Annexation of Korea where Korean's wish was rejected 3 times in a row

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Heck spending as long as 14 years to reach an agreement due to such difference in opinions for the legality of annexation, but SK had signed on it. PERIOD. Because we suffered then, we get pressed by the US, so we had no choice but sign it in 1965? RIGHT? You should not have signed no matter what . What a shame.

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Like comfort women issue, South Korea never keep promise, just does not have an idea what promise is.

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And what exactly is that going to solve? Nothing.

Quite a lot actually. It harms Japan's economy as Japan has a trade suplus with Korea, thereby giving Korea leverage by boycotting Japanese businesses and trade. It encourages Korean companies to invest in Korean domestic suppliers and and divest from Japanese ones. They can force Japanese companies to setup shop in Korea to avoid the boycott, thereby providing investment and jobs to Koreans. Down the line Korea can steal IP from Japanese companies in Korea. Once Korea has its own self-sufficient base of core technology suppliers, then can start to compete against legacy Japanese suppliers in the global market. But more importantly, the boycott movement spreads awareness of Japan's evil past to the world, and especially the younger generations. Of course Japan will deny this, but that just makes things worse. Ever heard of the Streisand effect?

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Japanese people need to boycott Korean products. So far the Republic of Korea has a bad track record on keeping promises. Then there is a Korean boycott of Japanese products. So turn about is fair play.

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"Quite a lot actually. It harms Japan's economy as Japan has a trade suplus with Korea, thereby giving Korea leverage by boycotting Japanese businesses and trade. It encourages Korean companies to invest in Korean domestic suppliers and and divest from Japanese ones. They can force Japanese companies to setup shop in Korea to avoid the boycott, thereby providing investment and jobs to Koreans. Down the line Korea can steal IP from Japanese companies in Korea. Once Korea has its own self-sufficient base of core technology suppliers, then can start to compete against legacy Japanese suppliers in the global market. But more importantly, the boycott movement spreads awareness of Japan's evil past to the world, and especially the younger generations. Of course Japan will deny this, but that just makes things worse. Ever heard of the Streisand effect?"

Sounds just like B Johnson and his mates:

we hold all the cards

-they need us more than we do them.

Only for a few days later:

I didn't really understand what I was signing for!

I DEMAND you make changes to my beautifully crafted oven deal!

Yup.

Very similar.

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mobius217Today  12:39 pm JST

And what exactly is that going to solve? Nothing.

Quite a lot actually. It harms Japan's economy as Japan has a trade suplus with Korea, thereby giving Korea leverage by boycotting Japanese businesses and trade. It encourages Korean companies to invest in Korean domestic suppliers and and divest from Japanese ones. They can force Japanese companies to setup shop in Korea to avoid the boycott, thereby providing investment and jobs to Koreans. Down the line Korea can steal IP from Japanese companies in Korea. Once Korea has its own self-sufficient base of core technology suppliers, then can start to compete against legacy Japanese suppliers in the global market. But more importantly, the boycott movement spreads awareness of Japan's evil past to the world, and especially the younger generations. Of course Japan will deny this, but that just makes things worse. Ever heard of the Streisand effect?

Laughable. so Boycott Japan campaign succeeded? It doesn't look like that way at all. Your economy can never graduate into Japanese material-free stage. All you can do is to seduce key Japanese companies to move production within your country under table. People, especially young Koreans, getting fed up really

with all these non-sense.

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@samit

Speaking of damages lawsuit, Nippon Steel is arguing in its appeal case this week that it is willing to pay the ordered damages, but is prevented from doing so by Japanese government.

You want to look at it such way by whatever source in South Korea which wants to interpret such way.

That's all. Just like your ilk officially announced IOC had promised to prohibit rising-sun flags into any stadium

in any Olympics in future , which turned out to be just a lie, confirmed by JOC and IOC.

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And that Abe gave an enormous recompense to SK government, and where did it go? Not disclosed how it was used there. Well, politician just do it for good image and it's from our taxes, isn't it?

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