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therougou
Dave Fair's point was that Big Pharma is necessary, nowhere does he ask for another vaccine. Just sayin...
JTC
How much will it cost ?
Sven Asai
Yes, @M.Sanchez, we probably harm our bodies , but that’s still the better choice than giving the coronaviruses no limitations and all possibilities to harm and us to earlier than necessary die from that. It’s of course nothing else than choosing from two bad options the less worse one. Something similar to eat processed or contaminated food and getting sick only or eat nothing and starving to death immediately.
virusrex
One very important point is that the confirmation is on ”preclinical trials” which means an effect on cells and experimental animals at much. Having clinical trial about its effect on other variants is a reason for optimism, but it could still end up giving no clinical benefit when tried on patients.
Andy
Great, five jabs in the arm and now an oral drug. Will this one actually work though?
Dave Fair
still hung up on an irreverent point? ;-)
Dave Fair
I think I heard something to that effect, yes. But does that mean the war is over, that we no longer need to invest in research and development of new treatments? Seems like we are always one step behind Covid19, what happens when we get thrown a curve ball and the drugs and vaccines become ineffective?
ian
Got to be one of the dumbest questions I've seen.
Do you even know what business means?
Asiaman7
You mean a “drug,” right? ;-)
Asiaman7
Dave, do you realize that a new type of COVID-19 vaccine considered effective against the omicron variant is being introduced here in Japan in two months?
Dave Fair
Asiaman7Today
The last I checked the virus has mutated, how many times? Influenza requires new vaccines annually as do other illnesses as they mutate. How is Covid any different? Are we out of the woods yet, as far as I know we ain't.
painkiller
Japanese pharmaceutical firm Shionogi & Co said Wednesday its oral COVID-19 drug currently under development has been confirmed in preclinical testing as effective against the Omicron subvariant BA.2.75 that has been detected in Japan.
That's great, but Japanese doctors rarely prescribe these types of medications.
Dave Fair
Please forgive me for failing to include the word "drug" in my previous comment.
Does it really matter if we are talking about a "drug" or "vaccine"? The comment I had responded to was about a company producing a PRODUCT for the purpose of profit. Does it matter it be a "drug" or a "vaccine" for this discussion as both basically have the same purpose, to reduce or prevent severe symptoms or death?
Jazzyjazz
That's right. Thank god Japan is not doing what the west is doing or we would have over 1 million dead like they have in the west.
Jazzyjazz
Wonderful news for the Japanese people.
GuruMick
Is their a vaccine against aimless arguing amongst ourselves ?
Asiaman7
The article is about a drug, but the post by @Dave Fair is about vaccines. See quote below. He clearly writes “vaccines,” doesn’t he? (And if you didn’t know, Shionogi & Co has also been working on a COVID-19 vaccine for a while now.)
factchecker
When will pre departure PCR tests be dropped for fully vaccinated people coming from blue list countries?
therougou
First, you misread the post you quoted. Second, the article is about a drug, not vaccine.
And finally, none of the current vaccines work on omicron.
Asiaman7
The last I checked, WHO had approved use of 11 COVID-19 vaccines, five of which have been approved in over 85 countries. Do we really need one more?
Dave Fair
"Shionogi & Co. keeps trying to get its hand in the money jar, doesn’t it?"
Maybe so but we wouldn't have any vaccines at all and millions and millions of people would be dead around the world from deadly virus like Ebola, Polio, Smallpox, Influenza, Dengue, Rotavirus, SARS-CoV and the list goes on and on without big pharma! Until you alter mans' selfish instinct you ain't gonna find too many Mother Teresa like pharmaceutical executives out there so whatcha gonna do, say no and not get vaccinated against lethal pathogens and take a stand?
Asiaman7
Shionogi & Co. keeps trying to get its hand in the money jar, doesn’t it?