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Ships collide off Japan coast; 5 dead,1 missing

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Hope they are found safe and well.

But did the Sierra Leone-registered vessel not try and do anything after the collision? From the article, it sounds like the ship just sailed off into the sunset.

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Good pic here

http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2013/sep/26/cargo-ships-crash-off-japan-coast-6-crew-missing/

Looks like the Japanese ship went right over.

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But did the Sierra Leone-registered vessel not try and do anything after the collision? From the article, it sounds like the ship just sailed off into the sunset.

Search and rescue is not they're job. That's what the coast guard is there for.

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You wouldn't help, huh? darknuts. You're nuts. And dark.

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not exactly collided, more like Japanese vessel fault smaller vessel...as in 5th smaller (500ton) should have moved from (3000ton) vessels way... all fault s with the JP boat captain

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Hope they find the missing person.

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Sad situation. It's a heavily trafficked area. Hope they find the person missing, and hope the five in 'cardiac arrest' end up okay.

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darknutsSep. 27, 2013 - 06:40PM JST "But did the Sierra Leone-registered vessel not try and do anything after the collision? From the article, it sounds like the ship just sailed off into the sunset."

Search and rescue is not they're job. That's what the coast guard is there for.

You re wrong. Yes it is their job. All ships are required under international maritime rules to provide assistance.

UNCLOS 1982: “ Every State shall require the master of a ship flying its flag, in so far as he can do so without serious danger to the ship, the crew or the passengers: (a) to render assistance to any person found at sea in danger of being lost; (b) to proceed with all possible speed to the rescue of persons in distress, if informed of their need of assistance, in so far as such action may reasonably be expected of him.” “master of a ship at sea which is in a position to be able to provide assistance, on receiving information from any source that persons are in distress at sea, is bound to proceed with all speed to their assistance, if possible informing them or the search and rescue service that the ship is doing so.…”

SOLAS 1974: “master of a ship at sea which is in a position to be able to provide assistance, on receiving information from any source that persons are in distress at sea, is bound to proceed with all speed to their assistance, if possible informing them or the search and rescue service that the ship is doing so.…”

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Just curiouse Early Friday. - What time about - was it dark? Cardiak arrest? Is that drowned? Sad but it happens often.

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Smaller ships have to yield to larger ships. Whatever happened the smaller ship is at fault.

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all fault s with the JP boat captain

Smaller ships have to yield to larger ships. Whatever happened the smaller ship is at fault.

Do you two have any knowledge of COLREGS? It seems not. Both vessels have a duty to keep clear but size has little to do with it. With two ships of the same type, meaning a single commercial ship with no tow, the burdened ship is clearly spelled out and it's got nothing to do with size unless you are in a waterway where the larger ship can't leave a channel and the smaller one can.

If you've got those details do tell....

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My understanding is they are Chinese ship and Japanese ship regardless of which country ship was registered. Maritime authority must be thoroughly and transparently investigate that accident be cause it can be intentionally crashing onto Japanese ship by Chinese ship.

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"Smaller ships have to yield to larger ships"

Unless one of the ships is of the MSDF. When a fishing boat collided with a warship a while back, the warship took all the blame, as I recall.

The Jia Huis crew are being interrogated. Why do the bigots here assume the ship "sailed away"?

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Since this happen in Japan waters there may be additional rule but under international rules:

A commonly held misconception concerning the rules of marine navigation is that by following specific rules, a vessel can gain certain rights of way over other vessels. No vessel ever has absolute "right of way" over other vessels. Rather, there can be a "give way" (burdened) vessel and a "stand on" (privileged) vessel, or there may be two give way vessels with no stand on vessel. A stand on vessel does not have an absolute right of way over any give way vessel, for if there is a risk of collision, a stand on vessel may still be obliged under Rule 2 to give way so as to avoid it, if doing so will be effective and is practicable. Two power-driven vessels approaching each other head to head, are both deemed to be "give way" and both are required to alter course so as to avoid colliding with the other. Neither vessel has "right of way".

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Sad situation. It's a heavily trafficked area. Hope they find the person missing, and hope the five in 'cardiac arrest' end up okay.

Unfortunately, they were all dead. Only a doctor can declare someone officially dead in Japan (maybe there are exceptions if the body is in a state where it would be impossible to come to any other conclusion). So, the media will not say "dead" until a doctor says so. While there may be hope of resuscitation (I did see the divers giving CPR on the deck), all too often the person is dead if the media says "no heartbeat" or "cardiac arrest". Many media 'translators' just don't know how to interpret the meaning of this to the international audience.

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@darknuts:

Sorry, I don't know if they (the Chinese crew) looked for people floating around or not. Neither, you. I can suppose they did. If they were under water, as the article states, rescuing couldn't be possible. Still, you are darknuts. I'm sorry. Yet, I'm A Monkey.

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Everything is breaking down in Japan.

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