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S Korea's top court orders 3rd Japanese company to compensate workers for forced labor

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Okay but what is this performance going on in the photo?

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Okay but what is this performance going on in the photo?

So? I could show you a million pictures of people throwing their hands in the air when they were celebrating something.

Just because this is a ruling against Japan, you automatically want to think it's something different.

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1965 agreement Korea.

The agreement is clearly a lump-sum settlement agreement with respect to claims arising from Japan’s annexation of Korea from 1910 to 1945. Under the agreement, Korea received $300 million from Japan, as full and final settlement for claims between states, claims between one state and the individuals of the other, and claims among the individuals of the states, including those specified in Article IV (a) of the 1951 San Francisco Peace Treaty. Private companies were also considered individuals for the purposes of the agreement.

https://thediplomat.com/2020/10/the-japan-korea-dispute-over-the-1965-agreement/

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In the meeting, Hiroyuki Namazu, director-general for the Japanese Foreign Ministry’s Asian and Oceanian Affairs Bureau, called the latest South Korean ruling “extremely regrettable and absolutely unacceptable," according to the Japanese ministry.

They would, since the highly probable returning leader of the ruling faction in some capacity was one of the owners of a slave owning company.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/jan/22/elderly-hurry-up-die-japanese

While campaigning for the premiership in 2008, Aso refused to acknowledge the use of hundreds of allied prisoners of war by his family's coal mining business during the second world war. He served as president of the firm's successor, Aso Cement, from 1973-79.

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Not going to happen! So sad that Korean government finances this trash. I hope the Koreans can find peace within themselves rather than with monetary gain. Why do they want cash as compensation?? Do not give them anything in cash value.

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Keep waiting...

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Okay but what is this performance going on in the photo?

So? I could show you a million pictures of people throwing their hands in the air when they were celebrating something.

Just because this is a ruling against Japan, you automatically want to think it's something different.

Good lesson.. Lol!!..

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YubaruToday 07:22 am JST

Okay but what is this performance going on in the photo?

So? I could show you a million pictures of people throwing their hands in the air when they were celebrating something.

Just because this is a ruling against Japan, you automatically want to think it's something different.

These people are happy? I mean maybe some of them. Others look they are in a stickup or something.

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Hands up! You're under arrest!

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1951 San Francisco Peace Treaty. Private companies were also considered individuals for the purposes of the agreement.

There is your problem right there.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/corporations-people-doctrine-real-legal-concept

Corporations as people allows Aso et al to continue benefiting from family businesses built on slave labor war profiteering while evading consequences.

Given the signatories of the treaty at that time and their agendas it is not surprising.

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This group of senile old people are being used as pawns for political reasons. They dont even know whats going on - clearly being ordered to stand with their hands up to appear as victims/captives.

This decision is purely to try and damage Japan and Japanese companies. Hopefully the Japanese company wrongly accused will appeal this political decision based on hatred, and don't pay even one yen.

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@Fighto!

Hopefully the Japanese company wrongly accused will appeal this political decision

There is no appeal, it's the final decision by the Supreme Court.

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There is no appeal, it's the final decision by the Supreme Court.

Well it should be overturned by the President. If he has any ethics and decency left. Which is doubtful.

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Very Good! For South Korea!! And for Japan!!!

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They keep beating Japan over the head with this one... It's beyond a joke.

After just adding them back to the "whitelist" a few months ago (?), now it's back to the normal "we want compensation"

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Fighto!Today  08:53 am JST

...clearly being ordered to stand with their hands up to appear as victims/captives.

As a Japanophile, don't you find that Ironic?

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I think this will have to go back to the international court to see who is wrong or right,

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Please show any evidence that ROK is worried about China's "aggressiveness". JT continues to carry the LDP anti-China flag for some unknown reason. Of course my post will be removed for some inane reason.

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I don't think that this matter is really about compensation money. )That was resolved years ago). It is about Japan not apologising. Japan needs to apologise and regard this as consolation money.

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I don't think that this matter is really about compensation money. )That was resolved years ago). It is about Japan not apologising. Japan needs to apologise and regard this as consolation money.

This is absolutely about financial compensation.

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This is absolutely about financial compensation.

Compensation money was resolved years ago. It is about consolation mone.

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dagonToday  07:29 am JST

While campaigning for the premiership in 2008, Aso refused to acknowledge the use of hundreds of allied prisoners of war by his family's coal mining business during the second world war. He served as president of the firm's successor, Aso Cement, from 1973-79.

Aso was 5 years old when WWII ended in 1945.

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Excellent for South Korea! Make the Rich Japanese pay!! Japan has lots of

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$!!

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@Fighto!

Well it should be overturned by the President. 

President has no such power.

@Alan Harrison

I don't think that this matter is really about compensation money. )That was resolved years ago). 

The 1965 treaty excludes damages claim resulting from illegal occupation of Korea by Imperial Japan at the insistence of Japanese negotiators. Japan deems the Japanese occupation of Korea to be legal thus there are no damages to be paid from its occupation.

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Yes! So much!! They are just $wimming in $wimming pools of $$!!

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This is a good lesson for Japan,war is not funny! The consequences to pay back will last very long time

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By forcing it to confront its historical amnesia, Korea is doing Japan a huge service. Japan will fight it tooth and nail, but holding it to account for its depredations on the Korean Peninsula is exactly what Japan needs to normalize.

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OssanAmericaToday  10:48 am JST

dagonToday  07:29 am JST

While campaigning for the premiership in 2008, Aso refused to acknowledge the use of hundreds of allied prisoners of war by his family's coal mining business during the second world war. He served as president of the firm's successor, Aso Cement, from 1973-79.

Aso was 5 years old when WWII ended in 1945.

Try saying "Whatever. I don't care. I wasn't born then" to descendants of First Nations and slaves.

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South Korean Foreign Minister Park Jin announced the plan at a news conference, saying that funds for compensating wartime laborers under Japan's 1910-1945 colonization of the Korean Peninsula would be raised by “voluntary” private sector donations and paid to a South Korean foundation in place of Japanese companies.

and today spin to another story again, and believe me, tomorrow will spin to another story again. If SK official Foreign Minister 's words can be overthrown and changed, then what can we expect from SK?

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This breech of international law, a blatant cynical political sham, to create distrust and further the need to poison any future reconciliation for generations to come is a lesson that opposition parties to Government are as dangerous and dishonest as their North Korean sponsors.

Ignore and move on.

Rise about this historic belligerence. the refusal to accept Japan has changed, the toxic irascible attempts to provoke historic grievances will be treated with the distain and contempt they deserve

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1965 agreement Korea. The agreement is clearly a lump-sum settlement agreement with respect to claims arising from Japan’s annexation of Korea from 1910 to 1945. 

The 1965 agreement was a travesty from the start. Analogous to the long running joke about the LDP being neither liberal, democratic, nor a party, the 1965 document provided nothing in the way of individual compensation and nix for Korea north of the 38th parallel. The South Korea of 1965 was a vastly different place from now, presided over by a quisling strongman negotiating from a position of weakness.

The seeds of genuine reconciliation are there already and Japan can take partial credit for the flowering of a democratic civil society. Looking at it as a work in progress would be a face saving alternative to the current stubborn intransigence and one-sided insistence that everything was resolved nearly 60 years ago, which it patently was not.

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The 1965 agreement was signed by a coup leading former lieutenant in the IJA sham of a ROK president.

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@Mark

If SK official Foreign Minister 's words can be overthrown and changed, then what can we expect from SK?

The Yoon plan was dead-on-arrival to begin with.

1) The compensation fund was legally NON-BINDING. In other word if the winning plaintiff refuses to take the compensation fund and wants to liquidate the Japanese asset, there is nothing to stop the plaintiff. Five courts already ruled on separate cases that the plaintiff's right to liquidate Japanese defendant's seized assets cannot be infringed by the fund's attempt to deposit fund with the court. There is literally an explicit provision in the civil law preventing a 3rd party depositing the compensation money with the court against the wishes of the plaintiffs.

2) Worse, the compensation fund is running out of money as not a single Korean corporation contributed to the compensation fund under the threats from the opposition Democratic party with the supermajority in the parliament, which threatened to prosecute any corporation that contributed to this fund as a special case embezzlement when they took back presidency. So even if the winning plaintiffs decided to opt for the fund payment, the fund can't pay.

3) Since the announcement of Yoon plan, the compensation fund raised the grand total of $90,000, all from the US chamber of commerce and a number of individuals. Japanese corporations are prohibited from contributing by Kishida while the Korean corporations fear the Democratic party more than Yoon because Yoon looks to be gone from presidency via impeachment after next-year's general election.

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Yep the sun came up today, so again Korea is reminding all of us they hate Japan.

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Year 2074:

Great-great-great grandchildren of South Korean forced laborers demand monetary compensation from Japan for great-great-great grandparents' suffering; take fight to Supreme Court of Korea.

"Listening to old family stories is too much to bear", the victims say.

-Associated Press

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@CaptDingleheimer

Great-great-great grandchildren of South Korean forced laborers demand monetary compensation

Sorry, force laborer's descendants have no right to sue. Every single plaintiffs were forced laborers.

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Yep the sun came up today, so again Korea is reminding all of us they hate Japan.

Yep it's like a sushi shop conveyor belt , round and round it goes, both in Japan and SK.

These people are happy? I mean maybe some of them. Others look they are in a stickup or something.

No different to an LDP banzai election call pic, lol.

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There is no favourable outcome demanding, forcing generation after generation to a life, a future of contrition, a sackcloth and ashes penitence.

Restitutional overcorrection the concept of a political form of positive punishment.....

Then, as the photo bleeds forth, to wallow, to celebrate a false victory, when the true enemy is write large on your own doorstep.

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Year 2546. South Korean Courts ruled that the Japanese corporations Hitachi and Nippon Steel to offer WW2 labor compensation, to the descendants now living on Mars, Moon and possibly, Alpha Centaury system.

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This will go on and on forever until South Korea hangs its patriotism hat on something else. The Japanese government have on uncountable occasions apologised for the past yet Korea won't let go. What the Koreans seem to forget is they did very similar things on the request of the US in Vietnam, yet we don't hear the Vietnamese making demands of South Korea, do we? Pot calling the kettle black comes to mind.

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Breaking news. Hitachi Shipyard has deposited the compensation fund with the Korean court against the orders of Kishida. This will be accepted by the court unlike the 3rd party compensation fund because the defendants have the right to deposit the judgement sum with court unlike the 3rd party.

https://www.yomiuri.co.jp/world/20231229-OYT1T50110/

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FYI, Nippon Steel, unlike Mitsubishi, wanted to settle with forced laborers from Day 1, they settled for lawsuits brought in Japan and also wanted to settle with lawsuits in Korea because it was far cheaper and simpler to just settle right now than pay huge legal fees over many years, but was forbidden by Abe/Kishida to settle.

In fact, Nippon Steel said in court filings that they wanted to settle but was prevented by Japanese government from doing so.

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WandoraDec. 29  12:10 pm JST

OssanAmericaToday  10:48 am JST

dagonToday  07:29 am JST

While campaigning for the premiership in 2008, Aso refused to acknowledge the use of hundreds of allied prisoners of war by his family's coal mining business during the second world war. He served as president of the firm's successor, Aso Cement, from 1973-79.

Aso was 5 years old when WWII ended in 1945.

Try saying "Whatever. I don't care. I wasn't born then" to descendants of First Nations and slaves.

Try holding everyone on the planet responsible for what their ancestors did before they were born.

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