Suga to meet fishing industry chief over nuclear waste water disposal

Disposing radioactive water is not just a Japan problem. Temporarily, yes, but it will disperse over the entire ocean. Isn't it safer inside the barrels shown in the picture?

Oregon. Was the recipient of radioactive material aka 'water' from Japan. Which appeared in the fisheries causing so-called 'low-level' contamination. Not a welcome event.

Disposal into the ocean, which is seen as vast and will disseminate any 'polluting' factors is an ongoing mirage. All one need do is look to the famous and extraordinary marine biologist Sylvia Earle, who explains the folly of dumping contaminants, especially 'radioactive water' into the ocean. AND. The ocean does not belong to Japan. If it 'belongs' to 'anyone' it is the creatures and more who dwell within.

Nuclear power, which is continually declared safe by those who profit from its construction and use, is anything but safe. TEPCO has certainly proven this and specifically the problem of waste disposal, let alone the impact of a Chernobyl size disaster. Ten years after the Fukushima event and it is an ongoing problem and will continue to haunt Japan and by circumstance other parts of the world.

Just dump it in the sea seems less than wise. What is imminently apparent is that the current solution is no longer viable. Which should have been considered when it was but an idea to construct nuclear power plants. A big thank you to the Eisenhower administration from over sixty years ago and the Atoms for Peace program. Advocates for nuclear power in Japan were Westinghouse and General Electric, who are responsible & profited from 'selling' nuclear power plants to Japan. Such was written about in the Japan Times: April 12, 2017.

We release now that water and give you a lot of money as well as fake labs an label printers that declare your fish extraordinarily healthy, or we give you nothing and release that water sometime later anyway. What is your free and uninfluenced own choice? lol

Correction:

"Suga to meet fishing Indusry chief to discuss how big a large envelope it will take to make sure nobody makes any inconvenient noise when these tonnes of radioactive pollution get dealt with by the the highly scientific method of emptying them down the grid."

Various options for disposing of the water? My w!inking r!ingpiece. it's going down the grid.

What the article does not state is that the generators at the plant were built too low to the ground ie a tsunami occurring was not taken into account, even though Japan is a country extremely liable to seismic events.

This is a simple matter of education on the dangers or rather lack of danger from Tritium.

A fairly benign isotope....

For those that are interested in facts ..

https://hps.org/documents/tritium_fact_sheet.pdf

Sorry, fishery guys. It's a done deal. The only question is how much you'll be compensated.

dan..... They need sea water for cooling. That why they are built near the sea.

let's pour into the ocean then go to eat sushi !!!

aside from the joke, it's a big problem, keeping all those tanks there is dangerous, what if another big earthquake and consequently a tsunami hit that area ? a global disaster

The talks are about offering money to the fisher organizations to make them accept the release of the cooling water. Pork barrel tactics as with the Torch relay.

Imagine if Japan had built the nuclear plants on higher ground instead of saving cash and building it by the sea!!

Forward thinking is never a strong point when money is concerned.

Here we are the tax payer and environment paying the price now!!!

The meeting will go like this:

Suga: Daijabu! Shinpai jenai! Mondai nai! - (It’s ok! Don’t worry! No problem!)

Fishermen: Uso! Balkka jiji! - (Lies! Stupid old man!)

Suga: Okane hoshi desuka? - (Do you want money?)

Fishermen - Ikura desuka? - (How much?)

They're pumping toxic water into Tampa Bay in Florida to prevent a larger spill or break. No other choice. Potentially this is what could happen at Fukushima with these crappy leaking tanks. What if the whole lot lets go in a domino effect in the next earthquake?

All you armchair critics handing out negative votes, what do you suggest Tepco (and Suga) should be doing?

@obladi

Disposing radioactive water is not just a Japan problem. Temporarily, yes, but it will disperse over the entire ocean. Isn't it safer inside the barrels shown in the picture?

No. Contrary to your common sense, dilution is the only and the safest way.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jamesconca/2019/09/12/its-really-ok-if-japan-dumps-radioactive-fukushima-water-into-the-ocean/

The major problem here is the public fear caused by ignorance.

“Ignorance leads to fear, fear leads to hatred, and hatred leads to violence."

I hope the fisheries stick to their guns as far as I am concerned our family will stop eating Japanese fish if it is released into the ocean. I have already found a safe alternative from outside of Japan.

Erm, James, your suggestion is already their option 1 in the article above, i.e. evaporation.

OK, here's what's going to happen.

First, fishermen don't care about any radioactivity and fish, they only care that someone will buy them. So the government will say that they "gained the understanding" of the fishermen, but the government may buy the fish in the background from the fishermen.

Problem solved.

The problem to both parties is not radioactivity, it is a PR and money problem.

How about another option... dump it near the Senkakus.

All jokes aside... what I don't understand is why they couldn't recycle the water for cooling? Why accumulate so much contaminated water?

The government is in the final process of officially deciding which disposal method to use 

a government panel proposed various options for disposing of the water

this 'news' (like much of 'the news'), seems to be stuck in a loop, like the instructions on how to ride an escalator.... I've said it before but: "and the options are?"

anybody here know?

@nandakandamanda

what do you suggest Tepco (and Suga) should be doing?

They should be removing the H20 via filtered drying and disposing of the remaining chemicals and toxins in a safe way.

The only reason they want to release it into the ocean is because it is the least expensive option.

There's plenty of empty space around Fukushima Daiichi. Just open the map, satellite view.

@nandakandamanda

Evaporation is not what I suggested it is closer to what Kindai University has developed a new filter enabling the removal of water containing radioactive tritium.

Japan is really soooooo corrupt.

Go back ten years to the Fukushima earthquake and tsunami.

With cooling systems down, and huge amounts of other cooling water coming off the melting reactors, waste water had to be stored somewhere as a temporary emergency.

Quickly Tepco purchased filtering systems and built storage tanks, but these jerry-built were never expected to last forever. In the meantime with talks constantly deadlocked, they have started rusting, leaking, shifting etc., as one might expect. Crowded out with fragile tanks, Tepco have run out of available land. So....

The two options are, as the article states, evaporation (in open pans?) and/or release to the ocean. Both will take time, but will gradually release the unavoidable pressure to do something, anything.

Nuclear power stations around the world already constantly release cooling water into the oceans, containing trace tritium. Fukushima Daiichi and Daini would have been releasing tritium daily for the past ten years if they has still been online.

I do not see why they faff around trying to decide on ONE method of disposal.

Do both, evaporation NOW, and stretch out the process of release to the sea, refiltering, spreading out the drainage pipes and diluting with other waters, in order to stay below the strictest figures possible, under the watchful eye of humanity's guardian angels, the IAEA.

Oh, and if the fisherman want compensation, well, for goodness sake give them something. Thank you.