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Suicide of real estate firm worker caused by overwork

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The local labor office found that the man's overtime work reached 180 hours in a month and concluded last December that his death was work-related.

There are 168 hours in a 7 day week. He puts in an average 40 hour week, and an average of 45 hours a week in overtime, or an average of 9 hours a day for a 5 day week, (probably went in on Sat and Sun, as that would mean he was working 17 hours a day!)

Death by overwork? HELL YES, this SHOULD be criminal! The family should be filing charges here!

I am lucky the company I work with CAPS all overtime at 42 hours per month, and if anyone even gets close to that, they start kicking people out the door!

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Excessive overtime is scientifically proven to be counterproductive to both employees and employer.

To still practice this is barbaric.

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Oh, a new one. Lets see how long the outrage will go on before the CEO scums have apologized enough.

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This discretionary contract system is just total BS and abused by employers to push staff to do more hours work than they get paid for. Many employers expect workers to do the government limit of 100 hours per month overtime because they are getting paid a little extra for overtime. Abe’s labor reform bill will not change this situation. It will most likely make it worse.

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The work-related suicide is likely to deal a further blow to the government of Prime Minister Shinzo Abe as it has already come under fire over its labor reforms bill. Abe was forced to drop expansion of the discretionary labor system from the planned bill on Thursday amid strong opposition following the revelation of flawed data relating to overwork.

Good! That twat doesn't give a hoot about the people of this country.

I am lucky the company I work with CAPS all overtime at 42 hours per month, and if anyone even gets close to that, they start kicking people out the door!

Man, you are lucky. At my company, I work 9 1/2 hour days+ saturdays, so I'm pretty sure I do near double that. For me, 2 days off seems like alot.

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We need a new hash-tag: #quit!

Don't commit suicide, quit the job!

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Money ain't my God. I won't do any overtime whether I'm paid or not.

In this day and age we should be working less, not more.

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180 hours overtime? That's enough for a full time employee. Are these companies so unprofitable that slavery is the only way to stay afloat? Forget Nippon Kaigi or their facade the LDP doing anything except cap overtime from the current 100 hours to 180.

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I’m actually quitting my job after my company capped overtime. It is too much loss in pay.

Going to a company who can give more hours (80+ hours OT per month)

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We need a new hash-tag: #quit!

Don't commit suicide, quit the job!

I totally agree but the lack of social mobility here and the stigma placed on people (by those who are, conversely, also suffering) will mean that those people will find it hard to get another job.

It's one thing that the government doesn't do anything toward labor reform, but it boggles my mind that the people also don't do anything toward this obvious and massive social problem. What's it gonna take!?

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What happens when the job becomes your life. Job gets overwhelming, nothing left but to check out. People need to be able to speak up for themselves, but...

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What happens when the job becomes your life. Job gets overwhelming, nothing left but to check out. People need to be able to speak up for themselves, but...

50 years old, having a family to support. People say "he should quit" too easily. Some people don't have that luxury. It's not just a simple decision.

If people over 40 or 50 have a guarantee of getting another good paying job this will never change.

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40, 50 re education is an option working 180 hours overtime go for it the result is death as this story goes. When your job kills you then surely any other option is worth a look. Don't look to the government they won't see you in their crowd of special interests.

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Quit one's job or quit the universe? Is it really that much of a dilemma?

@papigiulio If he has a family to support, how on earth does killing himself help them?

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Poor man. For overseas readers, those 180 hours were probably on top of 8.30 to 5.30, not 9 to 5. That's already an extra 20 hours a month before overtime.

I hope the family sue and take the company to the cleaners. It's the only way they'll learn. The government clearly doesn't care.

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Missing in this story is ACCOUNTABILITY by his supervisor! In every large company there is someone above you watching your performance, and in this case that person should be personally liable as well.

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Reckless you are spot on, be it a beauracract or another faceless unresposcable person accountability is a anathema in Japan.

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Don’t forget travel time, which is not paid and can take an hour each way.

i forced my partner to quit their job as they were almost dying from overwork. They found a job for 4 days a week for the same pay. Every morning they thank me and tell me that Japanese would never think of the concept of a 3 day weekend.

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GoodlucktoyouToday 11:14 am JST

Awesome partner!

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All the trouble to get noticed by senpai. When senpai does notice you, your dead.

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Funny how these "companies" start regulating themselves when something like this happens. Why doesn't the government make this kind of overtime highly illegal? I won't be surprised if they only "urge" companies.

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Don't commit suicide, quit the job!

dying from overwork may not be suicide.

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Excuse me, I noticed this was a suicide case, my bad.

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Nomura Real Estate Development said it will scrap the discretionary labor system in April.

At this point the authorities should have said no I'll tell you what, we're going to shut your business down and hand a custodial sentence to the line manager instead. To allow this business to continue its illegal practice for at least another one month is a crime itself.

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How about just asking for help? Or just saying, "I won't work any more overtime!" He can't get fired.

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Work style reform (hatarakikata kaikaku) should be about making inefficient work practices more efficient. Anyone who has bought a house in this country will know how much work is involved in being an agent.

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How about just asking for help? Or just saying, "I won't work any more overtime!" He can't get fired.

They may not fire you, but they'll treat you so badly that you'll wish they did. And you don't ask for "help" in these situations. Whom would you ask?

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Was the company building a colony in the Mars? Or was it on some kind of mission to rescue human race. 180 hours of extra work a month is in-humane and criminal.

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They may not fire you, but they'll treat you so badly that you'll wish they did. And you don't ask for "help" in these situations. Whom would you ask?

Exactly. Anyone who speaks up is deemed troublesome. Anyone who asks for help is deemed incapable of doing their job...

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... the whole point being that when it comes to work and valuing human life, Japan just does not care.

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Whether death due to overwork in Japan is more prevalent than other countries is open to dispute. Labour tribunals and courts may simply be more willing to recognize karoshi.

Long hours does not necessarily mean you are working. Sometimes I stayed later than required just to avoid going home when the trains were most crowded. More often, I was napping in my office because there was an "all hands on deck" order but nothing for me to do.

I'm sure that some people in Japan (as in other countries) work themselves to death or commit suicide because of over work but there is also an immense amount of time in white collar jobs where you have to be physically present but are doing nothing more strenuous than sitting around drinking lukewarm tea and chatting.

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