Tighter measles vaccination policy to be implemented for hospitals

Comparative data provided by the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) reveal that nobody has died from measles in more than 10 years, while at least 108 deaths reported in VAERS during the same time frame have been linked to measles vaccines.

https://www.naturalnews.com/048518_measles_vaccines_CDC_data.html

@ Freedom

stop it!!

you’re making too much sense!!

They won’t understand.

FreedomLives!Today  01:01 pm JST

*Comparative data provided by the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) reveal that nobody has died from measles in more than 10 years, while at least 108 deaths reported in VAERS during the same time frame have been linked to measles vaccines.*

https://www.naturalnews.com/048518_measles_vaccines_CDC_data.html

So you claim nobody died from measles, and because there were 108 deaths caused by the vaccine people shouldn't get vaccinated?

Well this is from the CDC and it paints a very different picture.

Please note as you read this, the last death due to measles was in 2015, and it has saved countless others. Taken world wide then, you can say according to the CDC that you point out, 20 million lives have been saved world wide.

Here is a link if you wish to read.

https://www.cdc.gov/measles/downloads/MeaslesDataAndStatsSlideSet.pdf

https://www.cdc.gov/measles/about/history.html

So lets say there were 108 deaths due to the vaccines in he past 10 years, and therefore its dangerous.

Well, according o the CDC ( your source) there were approximately 6000 deaths PER YEAR. This was in 1912, the first year it became a NOTIFIABLE DISEASE in the US.

So you're comparing approximately 10 deaths a year to a vaccine, as opposed to the 5990 lives saved per year by the vaccine.So I wonder what your research suggests how we should save those 6000 deaths per year.

Now consider when the decade before the vaccine. The CDC reported 400+ deaths "PER YEAR". Not to mention the most serious cases where people had to be hospitalised. I would also like to point out how many have been prevented from severe neurological damage by the measles virus.

Now Lets consider your logic for one moment, I'll use Ambulances, that saves lives. If ambulances are responsible for on average 29 deaths per year in the US,(which is way more than any vaccine) then by your logic, Ambulances are dangerous and people shouldn't use them. but whats NOT mentioned is how millions are saved by ambulances. Sounds rediculous doesn't it?Well thats the same logic your using for reasons NOT to get vaccinated.

SO, if more people die from ambulances in the US, than from vaccines, maybe it would be better to get vaccinated than call for an ambulance when your child is sick.

Heres a link if you wish to read.

https://www.arnolditkin.com/personal-injury-blog/2018/february/statistics-on-emergency-vehicle-accidents-in-the/

Sorry it should read.

On average, 29 fatal ambulance accidents produce 33 fatalities each year.

They won’t understand.

I certainly don't. The logic employed in the article in FreedomLink!'s post is unbelievably flawed. Bubblegun points out most of its faults. Read the article below and then try to make a case that the measles vaccine is a bigger threat than the disease itself.

https://academic.oup.com/jid/article/189/Supplement_1/S1/820569

So the people who died after receiving flu shots didn’t die from the flu shots, they died from the flu even though they got the flu shots .

and all the links to vaccines and negative side effects are not because of the vaccines right. :-/

yep, makes sense

There are some very, very sorry tales about measles-related conditions of children whose parents denied their kids the MMR jab due to the claims (now widely discredited) of the doctor (now struck off) and the subsequent rise in measles cases. I invite those who advocate being vax-free to first study the measles complications evidence, prior to subjecting their family, friends and readers to such possibilities.

Remember, just because measles is not endemic in a particular place/has been totally eliminated, does not mean someone can't fly in with the condition.

"Couldn't happen to me", right?

SSuper post, Bubblegun. You really show the into vaccination crowd look like the dangerous characters they are (I was going to use a stronger word there, but you know what the JT censor is like).

Look at the kids around you that are vax free, they're healthy, get sniffles far less often, and when they do, it passes much faster. More over they get have nearly as many allergies if any at all and all of their mental faculties are up and running.

Dangerousnonsense from Burning Bush - not evidence based, just pseudo-science and quackery picked up off the internet. Children die and have debilitating illnesses because of a failure to vaccinate.

Burning BushMay 13  07:17 pm JST

Look at the kids around you that are vax free, they're healthy, get sniffles far less often, and when they do, it passes much faster. More over they get have nearly as many allergies if any at all and all of their mental faculties are up and running.

Go natural, keep your kids clean and healthy.

They are healthy because they rely on HEARD immunity. While every one else gets vaccinated this conveys an immunity to those who are not immunised.

Now if you are talking about the flu vaccine then you are talking about something completely different. For one thing the flu vaccine does not convey protection to "ALL" flu viruses. The virus changes so even if you are vaccinated, there is no guarantee that you won't get flu.Furthermore, you will find that there are many children who should get vaccinated but aren't and are at risk.

If you are a normal healthy child with no secondary condition then you probably don't need to get the "FLU" vaccine.

If you're a healthy adult, young, and with no underlying condition then you don't need the FLU vaccine.

However if you have a pre existing condition, then it is recommended you get the flu vaccine, as it can prevent your pre existing condition become worse.

Older people over 65.

chronic (long-term) respiratory diseases, such as asthma (which requires an inhaled or tablet steroid treatment, or has led to hospital admission in the past), chronic obstructive pulmonary disease (COPD), emphysema or bronchitis  

chronic heart diseasechronic kidney disease  

chronic liver disease, eg hepatitis  

chronic neurological conditions, such as Parkinson's disease, motor neurone disease or multiple sclerosis (MS)  

diabetes

problems with your spleen – for example, sickle cell disease or if you have had your spleen removed  

a weakened immune system as the result of conditions such as HIV and AIDS, or medication such as steroid tablets or chemotherapy.

So you can see some, if you are healthy you don't need the flu vaccine but if you have the flu on top of your pre-existing condition then you may put yourself at risk. Now while you wish to think the FLU is just a FLU. please consider the deaths that do occur as a consequence of flu. If you feel that that isn't enough then you may wish to consider the amount of people hospitalised. As you can see the most vulnerable are children under 4. Please note the 94% who had an Underlying condition.

 CDC estimated that from the 1976-1977 season to the 2006-2007 flu season, flu-associated deaths ranged from a low of about 3,000 to a high of about 49,000 people.

 CDC estimates that from 2010-2011 to 2013-2014, influenza-associated deaths in the United States ranged from a low of 12,000 (during 2011-2012) to a high of 56,000 (during 2012-2013).

I'm not sure why you think the go natural and keep you kids clean and healthy argument stands up to any scrutiny and frankly maybe dangerous to certain groups.

Here is a link to the CDC.

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/index.htm.

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/disease/us_flu-related_deaths.htm

So the people who died after receiving flu shots didn’t die from the flu shots

The article is about measles, not flu.

and all the links to vaccines and negative side effects are not because of the vaccines right

Vaccines can have side effects, and they can be serious. It would be stupid to deny that. In the case of measles, the overall effects of the disease clearly outweigh the side effects of the vaccine. The big moral issue for me is that those who suffer from the vaccine are probably not those who would have suffered from the disease. In a sense, we create human sacrifices in the interests of the larger population. Is that right? I honestly don't know. But the point made in the Natural News article linked above about there being fewer deaths from measles than from the vaccine is simply nonsense.

The New England Journal of Medicine reported on March 26, 1987

"An outbreak of measles occurred among adolescents in Corpus Christi, Texas, in the spring of 1985, even though vaccination requirements for school attendance had been thoroughly enforced. . . .We conclude that outbreaks of measles can occur in secondary schools, even when more than 99 percent of the students have been vaccinated and more than 95 percent are immune." (N Engl J Med 1987; 316:771–4.)

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJM198703263161303

FreedomLives!Today  08:20 am JST

The New England Journal of Medicine reported on March 26, 1987 

"An outbreak of measles occurred among adolescents in Corpus Christi, Texas, in the spring of 1985, even though vaccination requirements for school attendance had been thoroughly enforced. . . .We conclude that outbreaks of measles can occur in secondary schools, even when more than 99 percent of the students have been vaccinated and more than 95 percent are immune." (N Engl J Med 1987; 316:771–4.)

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJM198703263161303

Well thank goodness the rest of the population were vaccinated too. Otherwise it could have been much worse. Vaccines have never ever said they were 100% effective 100% of the time.

albaleoToday  05:39 am JST

In a sense, we create human sacrifices in the interests of the larger population. Is that right? *

Well it may seem that way, but there is no way to show that those who suffer from any side effect from a vaccine would NOT have suffered from the disease in the first place.

Every single drug or treatment you have, carries a risk. However the risk of catching polio, measles,Smallpox etc has now become so low, that people point to the vaccine itself, when they provide no alternative to protect children. Furthermore they don't compare the world they live in today WITH vaccines, to the past when they're were NO vaccines. Imagine just for a minute, according to some views here, if WE REMOVED ALL VACCINES in favour of their view. These diseases would be back, millions would have died or disabled, and I wonder if that's what they are actually advocating? While accepting the herd immunisation afforded to them by the millions who DO ACCEPT THE VACCINE. Kind of hypocritical, No?

Of course you could say that about every single medical procedure that has saved lives EG antibiotics, but we would never say that about anything else that saves lives. Ambulances, fire trucks or dare I say it, the Police. You've got a bigger chance of being killed by an Ambulance, Fire truck or the Police. ( depending on the country)