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Tokyo August virus cases top 125,000, nearly triple July's record

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Recent number of cases in Japan is about 6th in whole world despite still insufficient PCR test.

"medical system close to its breaking point"

Japan's medical system are already over breaking point, abandoned patients die at their home one after another.

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"medical system close to its breaking point"

More case you have, more people will passed away at their home

https://english.kyodonews.net/news/2021/08/40eaf307e5bf-84-covid-19-patients-died-at-home-in-japan-over-6-months-govt.html

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If one were to look for the silver lining, close to over 99.9% of the total amount of cases will fully recover and have natural immunity, which is immensely better than vaccination.

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If one were to look for the silver lining, close to over 99.9% of the total amount of cases will fully recover and have natural immunity, which is immensely better than vaccination.

This is dangerously incorrect.

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@Bob

I guess it only depends on how you define dangerous.

if by “dangerous” you mean as dangerous as a deadly virus that is only dangerous to less than 1% of people, then yes, I guess it’s pretty dangerous

maybe this is the “new” dangerous?

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Kenchi,

where did you get this information:

.... 99.9% of the total amount of cases will fully recover ......

Did you consider the long term effects of that virus.

I can tell you (once again) what's going on with a friend's daughter in the US.

13 years old, was healthy, NOT obese and no other underlying conditions.

Even after 1.5 years she is fighting to overcome those "side effects", including organ failure, balance problems and quite some more. She is NOT the only experiencing all this.

More info on this here: https://fullfact.org/health/Covid-recovery-vaccine/

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Tokyo August virus cases top 125,000, nearly triple July's record

Not to worry. The gov is now reducing the number of tests which means the number of cases will also go down. All is well.

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@Bob

I guess it only depends on how you define dangerous.

if by “dangerous” you mean as dangerous as a deadly virus that is only dangerous to less than 1% of people, then yes, I guess it’s pretty dangerous

maybe this is the “new” dangerous?

No. I mean dangerous by deliberately spreading falsehoods. There is no guaranteed immunity or 99.9% recovery rate after contracting Covid-19.

That is incorrect information.

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The Japanese Government should have focused on the pandemic and not the money making Olympics for the fat cats only club.

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@Boob Foose is right

There is no guaranteed immunity or 99.9% recovery rate after contracting Covid-19.

It's "only" about 99.5%.

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klausdorth

I am not trying to argue with you.

But I too have been wondering why in some countries some young and even children fall ill and die from Covid, whereas here, not a single child has died (claimed).

There are large health differences between nations and some countries really feel covid differently. I think its politically incorrect to say, but in the USA where so many people use strong medication, opioids, and live an u healthy lifestyle….

Well look at the deathrate

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@Boob Foose is right

There is no guaranteed immunity or 99.9% recovery rate after contracting Covid-19.

It's "only" about 99.5%.

Data? Including long term effects?

It’s Bob by the way. Accuracy is important.

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Tokyo August virus cases top 125,000, nearly triple July's record

Not to worry. The gov is now reducing the number of tests which means the number of cases will also go down. All is well.

Agreed Aly....it will keep dropping right up to the October election...LDP magic at work.

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@bob

My point I was claiming was that natural immunity was better than immunity via vaccination.

so that those that recover will have natural immunity. they will be better off in the future if encountering the virus again.

that is definitely not a falsehood.

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@Boob Foose is right

There is no guaranteed immunity or 99.9% recovery rate after contracting Covid-19.

It's "only" about 99.5%.

I stand corrected perhaps

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Kenchi,

sorry, but once again your statement contradicts what experts have to say (at least in some "minor" points):

"It's likely that for most people vaccination against COVID-19 will induce more effective and longer lasting immunity than that induced by natural infection with the virus. Even if you've had COVID-19, you're recommended to get the vaccine because it will boost whatever immunity you have from natural infection."(British Society for Immunology)

Other sites (once again experts in this field) state the same, like WHO, CDC and so on.

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Kenichisan

just show us the math if you feel you calculations are correct.

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Lock it all down.

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@Bob Fose

When disagreeing about facts and data, it is helpful to cite sources.

www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.07.08.21260210v1

Above is a link to a preprint study from Stanford estimating the infection fatality rate (IFR) from COVID-19 for various age brackets.  

The study found:

   0-19  0.0027%     

  20-29  0.014%

  30-39  0.031%

  50-59  0.27%

  60-69  0.59%

Of course, death is not the only concern with corona infection.

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Tokyo saw over 125,600 new coronavirus cases in August, almost triple the previous monthly record infections logged in July, according to figures released by the metropolitan government Tuesday.

Saw 125,600 new cases from the meagre tests. Making the info inaccurate. It is inaccurate info like this that makes one to start having doubts about historical information or data.

Imagine kids yet to be born will learn about this pandemic in the history books how Japan did better than other countries with test numbers missing from the narrative and look at it as a feat or something to proud of.

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Tokyo saw over 125,600 new coronavirus cases in August, almost triple the previous monthly record infections logged in July

When the official word by those in charge is 'nothing is wrong, everything is fine. Continue to do things normally. But we're also in a state of emergency', then it's no surprise there are record infection numbers.

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151EToday  09:48 am JST

I would check the author of that "study".

John P. A. Ioannidis has quite the reputation, a prolific publisher of papers in the thousands.

Most eventually being found to be seriously flawed.

He is loved by the anti medical establishment community because he writes what they often want to hear.

Not that there are a few red flags right in the report you linked.

Notably it was said to be about deaths in the elderly population but cuts off at 69 years of age.

It has not been peer reviewed and this part is typically of John P. A. Ioannidis inost of his publications.

Data Extraction We extracted the most fully adjusted (if unavailable, unadjusted) seroprevalence estimates and sampling procedure details

Which is another way of saying we used data we really can't verify fully.

People rarely read the info of how the information was collected.

And rare read the asterisk or parentheses information.

All this to say anything published by this guy needs to really first be peer reviewed before accepting even the tittle as in most cases his work and conclusions will be rejected and disproven.

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I wonder if the Olympics did in fact have anything directly linked to the increase.

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yes its not olympics related Suga right?

where are you hiding now...for some "genius" of your level there is always hospital be ready right?

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Of course, death is not the only concern with corona infection.

Which was the original point of my comments, so your questionable death statistics are irrelevant.

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Japan has been battling the rapid spread of infections caused by the highly contagious Delta variant, with the medical system close to its breaking point.

Regular COVID-19 tests do not detect which variant is involved in a patient’s case—that information does not change the approach to care or therapy. The variant identification requires genomic sequencing, a process separate from regular virus tests and one that not all labs are able to do or do not do on a routine basis for patient care but are done more for public health monitoring.

https://www.lung.org/blog/covid-19-delta-variant

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At this rate, Japan may eventually catch up with Texas and Florida...

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Like to know the real numbers not the reduced testing numbers we must be reaching herd immunity soon..

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Lift all SOE now.

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Tokyo August virus cases top 125,000, nearly triple July's record

This is getting so tiring. As a) "cases" only reflect testing and most infected have no symptoms, these daily "kansen kakudai" figues in the media are completely meaningless.

Most Japanese people I talked to actually understand this and completely agree. So why do authorities & media continue this nonsense?

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151E

The study found:

  0-19 0.0027%    

  20-29 0.014%

  30-39 0.031%

  50-59 0.27%

  60-69 0.59%

Thanks for providing some context for current hysteria. I dont have a link at hand, but I saw a similar study that extended into the 70-80 and 80-90 range. The numbers increased dramatically there. It did not include co-morbidities but it is safe assume that the too increased there. So our politicians want to punish the whole population instead of concentrating on the very small vulnerable group??

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its called exponential growth

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@Kenchi

close to over 99.9%

Did you try to go your assessment through basic math ? What did you think about the implication ?

As of now, we have 4 518 697 deaths from covid-19. World wide population 7 800 000 000.

https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_population

So starting from there lets go the other way : how many people were infected ?

1% IFR : 451 869 700 infected or 5.79% of the world population

0.5% IFR : 903 739 400 infected or 11.59% of the world population

0.1% IFR : 4 518 697 000 infected or 57.93% of the world population

Considering there are variability on how much covid spread in different place that would mean high variability in between place with some place where you will find antibodies in almost every sampling. Never heard of any studies finding that.

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Gakinotsukai

Awww so it about being hurt.

Hey man, I said Japanese are way healthier than some nations and that must help.

I am also half American and yes I think the USA is much better at making vaccines.

I am not “excusing Japan”. Still bored?

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If people wanna compare I'm reading an article now titled "Daily Average of COVID Hospitalizations in US Hits 100,000"

Excerpt

As that daily average topped 100,000, coronavirus deaths have also risen to an average of more than 1,000 a day for the first time since March, The New York Times reported.

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