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All this could be avoided if they would just immediately deport these people, put back on flights to whence they came

See my 12:17 post.

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This incident would have been avoided if illegals are deported on arrival to Japan.

Asylum seekers are not undocumented immigrants and are accorded certain procedural rights per international law. You know, the law Japan pays lip service to when it wants to burnish its image to the rest of the world..

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When I was deported from japan, all the young staff tried so hard to help me. But the fat old man at his desk didn’t budge. I wanted to thank the young staff, but had to leave. Came back on a tourist visa.

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The immigration staff are beginning to sound like a rather nasty bunch of people..

Yes. In my experience the majority of immigration officers are good, but I have come across some extremely nasty immigration officers. There seems to be no mechanism in Japanese bureaucracy to keep them in check.

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The immigration staff are beginning to sound like a rather nasty bunch of people.

Yes. In my experience the majority of immigration officers are good, but I have come across some extremely nasty immigration officers. There seems to be no mechanism in Japanese bureaucracy to keep them in check.

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What year is this 1618! What a disgrace!

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If it does, then please name them, since they are not worthy Medical staff anywhere Globally.

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Does the Immigration Center have any Medical Staff ?

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All this could be avoided if they would just immediately deport these people, put back on flights to whence they came. You start slipping on this Japan, and the word will get out you've become a soft touch like the West and then the floodgates will open.

Has nothing to do with 'soft touch' but with human rights. Even 'luck seekers' among asylum seekers should be provided with medical treatment. With 20 status holders out of 20.000 asylum applications in 2017 there will be no sight on a whatever 'floodgate' so don't project your Western fear on the Japanese situation.

It's good by the way that some people 'have no vote'... :)

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I would have thought that there should have been at least some first Aiders on site at the Immigration offices, and given the detention venue, surely at least one Medical staff.

They should be named & shamed and prevented from holding such offices anywhere else, since I surely wouldnt feel comfortable knowing that the person I may be working with was just a pretend Medic, and couldn't care less for you, except for the additional $ they receive.

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I guess that last down vote was made by someone who disagreed with the "Beginning" bit, and probably thought I should have used "are" instead.

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Amazing the number of dislikes to perfectly reasonable and compssionate comments and just shows how may people, mostly Japanese I would assume, actually support the inhumane behviour of the Immigration Departmment.

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The immigration staff are beginning to sound like a rather nasty bunch of people.

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"immigration authorities" and "immigration officials"; these are real people with real names and should be being seen to be asked why they did what they did instead of being anonymous.

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Japanese immigration at it again! One day this nation will complain about others' human rights, and when forced to look in the mirror they'll cry foul.

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The British NhS is crumbling because of medical tourists.

Not true. The NHS is struggling due to systematic underfunding since 2010, coupled with the fact that non-UK staff have been told they aren't welcome anymore.

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It beggars belief that in the 21 century that a modern nation like Japan can't supply a doctor to some one who is clearly in need, this barbaric lack of action on behalf of the immigration centre is almost unforgivable, and as for the man who died, partial or full responsibility falls cleanly on the detention managers shoulders, he's responsible and should face court action. weather if someone is a detainee or not they should have access to medical care,

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Does anyone know what grounds a citizen of Turkey would have to make a claim for refugee status in Japan or anywhere else?

President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan. Being a Christian. Turkish Kurd. The more common reasons shared by all asylum seekers.

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Does anyone know what grounds a citizen of Turkey would have to make a claim for refugee status in Japan or anywhere else?

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Turkey is not an EU member country and now unlikely ever to be accepted. Turkey is a member of NATO. The British NHS isn't crumbling because of medical tourists but the whole health system is being badly because of the lack of funding. If we scape the nuclear missiles and subs and spend it on health instead.

If you are detained and require medical treatment who are not responsible for paying for it. The Turkish asylum seeker seems to have strong enough reason to apply for it and had his reason accepted.

I had appendicitis since living in Japan and spend a few weeks in a very nice hospital because I was also having a bad back problem. With just the appendicitis I would have only stayed a few days. The total cost which was about 12 years ago when the patient contribution was 20% was ¥100,000 ($1,000).

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Not saying he was a medical tourist, but the UN says japan has a responsibility to give basic human rights, but is never followed up.

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The British NhS is crumbling because of medical tourists. Turkey is a big country and connected to the EU. Why did he come here?

We have to pay. It is probably about $15000 for the operation. I have also been detained in an immigration center and asulted, but I accept that I had to pay for my treatment. Will they pay?

In my hospital we have many people, Japanese who have big trouble paying subsidized hospital fees.

Japan needs to deport people in less than a week if they have no right to be here.

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That means he's still in Japan waiting a decision on his asylum application.

Still confused about this. Are these people in there because they tried to gain asylum/refugee status in Japan or were they arrested for overstaying their visa? I keep getting mixed messages.

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"There is no way immigration officials can monitor conditions when they are not medical experts,"

The guy was obviously in horrible pain. Typical Japanese response to getting caught treating people like animals. Deny, Deflect and Distract. The three Ds strike again. The 'We can do no wrong' reflex all while staring down the barrel of obvious gross incompetence is a thing to behold. Who do they think they're fooling? Guys that work in prisons etc I would imagine are reminants of an old school mindset like those that were prevalent during WW2. Times have changed boys, so has the world.

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Oh, go right ahead and give me thumbs down for this comment, people .

Human rights. The man should be granted some basic human rights.

His treatment was inhumane, と思います。

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Well at least he got some free healthcare before his deportation. I assume that's one of the objectives of these guys.

The post does not say he was deported?

It saids

"The man was taken into custody at the facility in November 2016. After recovering, he was provisionally released in fall last year."

That means he's still in Japan waiting a decision on his asylum application.

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Well at least he got some free healthcare before his deportation.

Free healthcare? What an evil, evil man. Damn him. Damn him to hell!

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Well at least he got some free healthcare before his deportation. I assume that's one of the objectives of these guys.

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The authorities have a duty of care to everyone in their custody. This is innhumane, people should lose their jobs over this. They don't seem to have any onsite healthcare facilities and health care professionals neither, which is shocking.

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When the government detains a person, whether its an immigration detainee or a criminal in a prison, the authorities have taken away all the freedoms of that person and have taken control and responsibility over every second of that person, and the responsibility of the authorities is to ensure the safety and health of the detained or imprisoned person. The fact that person is a foreigner or a criminal in prison does not excuse the authorities from fulfilling its legal responsibilities.

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All this could be avoided if they would just immediately deport these people, put back on flights to whence they came. You start slipping on this Japan, and the word will get out you've become a soft touch like the West and then the floodgates will open.

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There seems to be a lack of concern for humans on this thread and more concern about upholding the law and taxes. That a detainee almost died (and others have) seems to be of no concern to people more interested in keeping Japan “Japanese” and not waste “our” tax yen on them. This lack of compassion seems world-wide, as well. Maybe each country wants to be isolated from everyone else; so, bring back Close Japan?

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Got to love how they compile reports to exonerate themselves

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Whatever the rights of the Turkish man’s immigration case are, he is still a human being and entitled to medical care. That he almost died as a lack of it is a stain on Japan’s name.

He should sue - big time.

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Yet they still come don't they? And our taxes are used to support them while they're here as well. Enough is enough

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dcog9065Today 09:43 am JST

This incident would have been avoided if illegals are deported on arrival to Japan.

Keeping these immigrants here and pent up for extended periods is not a good policy and they should all be deported immediately instead.

Jeez.

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This incident would have been avoided if illegals are deported on arrival to Japan.

Keeping these immigrants here and pent up for extended periods is not a good policy and they should all be deported immediately instead.

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Those detainees are all the time noisy to begin with ...

Am I reading this correctly?Obviously The person who posted this comment must work at this center, to know so much and to be such an expert on noise levels.

I would suggest that you approach your supervisor or union, if you are a member, and ask for a transfer to a quieter place.

You see, when you get a lot of people together, they actually communicate with each other. It's been going on for thousands of years. It generates sound.

If you cannot handle that, then you, and anybody else working at the center are not up to your jobs.

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Nice one immigration authorities.. When you treat people like animals, these types of things will happen.

Yes, I would hope even animals would be treated better than this.

Where is the humanity ?

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And to think they are inviting more foreigners to visit and work in Japan, way to go immigration authorities!

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It seems that Tokyo Regional Immigration Bureau didn't receive the Omotenashi memo.

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And Japan preaches human rights to other countries.

It this happened to a Japanese National in a foriegn county, my guess is that Japan would be the first to complain and "demand" compensation.

This detainee should sue.

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malicious

A prominent word in the Japanese psych.

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"There is no way immigration officials can monitor conditions when they are not medical experts,"

That is the very reason why you should take them to a nearest hospital to get examined and not just ignore them.

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The prison system, which the detention center works under vI do believe, have archaic rules and regulations dating back to the Meiji era.

This place needs to be scrapped!

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The person incharge of this immigration center is clearly incompetent, and not up to the job. This person obviously does not understand the concept of "duty of care".

I would suggest that he/she be removed from their post with immediate effect.

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Nice one immigration authorities.. When you treat people like animals, these types of things will happen.

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