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Gonna need more than that.

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Y76m seems too low, i paid little more for my house bought in 90's !

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some14someMay. 03, 2012 - 07:23AM JST

Y76m seems too low, i paid little more for my house bought in 90's !

leme get this straight,...76 million yen for a house? thats like over 900 grand right there...thats some ballin house lol

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That's how much he's raised so far; it's not the asking price.

So he wants to buy three of the five islands that the Japanese government already rents from a Japanese family. Do they want to sell? How about the other two? If the three islands are already under Japan's control, could the dispute be about the other two and not the three he wants to buy?

I've always said the Americans made a big mistake in 1972 in returning Okinawa to Japan. They should have kept them or set them free as a sovereign nation.

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some14some, that is an expensive house! Wonder how much the owner wants for the islands?

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this is the most ridiculous story I have ever heard about Japan... today

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just who is watching over this money? i would be very very very careful in tokyo......mr. ishihara has a habit of using other people`s money for his windmills.

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Not enough money? Maybe he'll appeal to the island owner's patriotic sentiment.

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What a waste of dough.

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Much better to buy a Caribbean island like Johnny Depp did.

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General Ishihara should focus on problem of Tokyo. That's his boundary. Forget about international matters.

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If its not a crime to ask for money for a purchase without revealing the price, it should be. And Ishihara should be retroactively charged and jailed for it.

He should also be jailed for overstepping his bounds as regional governor to meddle in international affairs and antagonize foreign countries. If I was the Japanese diplomat to China, I would want to break my foot off in his...

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"Fish, my eye!" It is not about fish. Does anyone really believe China will let this area go to Japan when China wants to bring Taiwan back into the "family?" The whole issue is all about gas and oil reserves. Conservative projections estimate that the South China Sea contains 4.8 billion barrels of oil and 64 trillion cubic feet of natural gas, according to the United States Geological Survey. That's equivalent to Alaska's discovered oil reserves, and more than the discovered gas reserves in the Gulf of Mexico.

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The next question is where will all this money go when the sale is denied? Will Japan send in its small navy? Maybe a donation to the world bank, UN or some foreign country when Japan needs to rebuild its economy? This is far more serious than fishing rights and the story is not being told to the public.

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"no target had been set for donations"

How about enough to buy the islands?

I'm afraid this money is going to be wasted.

"Tokyo would "defend" the islands"

And Ishihara will be manning the cannons no doubt.

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If those islands have been owned by Japanese families for generations, why in the world is this such a big issue? Why would them being owned by some nutter in Tokyo be any different than being owned by some other Japanese family?

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to defend those island, japan will have to go nuclear. if push comes to shove, can't see the u.s. doing it.

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sfjp330May. 03, 2012 - 08:31AM JST General Ishihara should focus on problem of Tokyo. That's his boundary. Forget about international matters.

Yup. This isn't exactly a matter related to the governance of Tokyo-to. The central government needs to tell him in no uncertain terms to knock it off.

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If those islands have been owned by Japanese families for generations, why in the world is this such a big issue? Why would them being owned by some nutter in Tokyo be any different than being owned by some other Japanese family?

If Tokyo puchases it, they can dispatch/station MPD. They can develop a ports /infrastructure in the future where it becomes easier for the SDF to station there.

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What is the big deal? Why isn't this covered by Japanese news agencies? http://money.cnn.com/2012/04/24/news/economy/south-china-sea/index.htm?iid=HP_LN This matter is serious and can escalate. Pull the Yanks out of Okinawa so that Japan's military can be closer to the situation.

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It seems that the price of 76 million yen is very reasonable for private 3 islands. The owner must have accepted the price. The 76 million would not be difficult, so many people would agree with Ishihara and help donation for that.

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No Kwatt. The article basically states that Tokyo raised 76 million yen in just five days after setting up the account.

The price for the 3 islands are estimated to be 1.5 billion yen.

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If Tokyo puchases it, they can dispatch/station MPD. They can develop a ports /infrastructure in the future where it becomes easier for the SDF to station there.

Private land in Japan does not seem to be a bar to U.S. military bases all over Okinawa.

You just salute whatever the rightists run up the flag pole is all.

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That version of Japans flag always sends shivers down my spine, when will people here realize the rest of the world sees that flag in the same vein as a swastika!

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That version of Japans flag always sends shivers down my spine, when will people here realize the rest of the world sees that flag in the same vein as a swastika!

It's been an official flag of JMSDF for god knows how long so to answer your question....

Not in your lifetime.

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@nigelboy

If the total price of the islands became 1.5 billion yen, It would be more difficult for taxpayers and 76 million would seem to be a little donation. In the first place the state of Japan should buy these island for the state's interest.

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Kwatt. It's only been 5 days.

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I proudly donated. I can think of no more important cause to donate money to right now if you love Japan and want to see her safe in the future.

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If you paid ¥76 million in the 90's, then it is worth less than half that today.

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This is not about Japanese sovereignty over those wretched islands. That is established already. The UN acknowledges it. China does not have a historical leg to stand on. Japan has as much right to those islands as China has to Tibet. The really issue is how Ishihara has barged into a matter of national policy and has bilked a lot of dumb head Japanese nationalist to promote himself. A truly disgusting performance.

Ishihara ought to go live on one of those islands.

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It's been an official flag of JMSDF for god knows how long so to answer your question....

So what, that doesnt change the fact that flag carries some rather serious baggage, ie its in the same vein as the swastika! One only has to see how its used even today to realize I am correct.

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@JapanGal

It would be not much difference between buying them now and bought them 10, 20 years ago, because this is nothing to do with foreign exchange or stock exchange on these islands and also they try to buy these islands with to use Japanese yen in Japan, no $$ or no Euro. This is absolutely a domestic matter.

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If the Japanese government can send billions of yen overseas, then they should have no problem buying the islands with the exhorbitant taxes that the public of Japan have to pay. I presume that those silly enough to donate will be given title to a portion of the land that they paid for.

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Readers, the flag is not relevant to this discussion.

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What kind of politician wastes 76mil in donations on a disputed island when people all over the city are struggling jus to get by? And when people in Tohoku are still so far from recovered?

I truly hated Ishihara for his racism, his corruption, his insensitivity to the people of Tokyo and of Japan, his inability to do what is right for people here and his blatant capacity to ignore the judgement of authorities. But now I find that his idiocy has left me simply wondering what the hell is wrong with the people of Tokyo. After all it is the people of this city that this guy routinely screws over. And yet there is silence over his actions.

I think this speaks volumes about the political sophistication and awareness of the average Tokyo denizen. And is a sad sign of just how unlikely it is that the people of Tokyo can, will or will ever do what is necessary to improve their condition and take control over their political destiny. Maybe less of the political savvy of the nation has changed since the war years than we had hoped. The people are still being led by leaders who simply want to use them.

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As for people of Tokyo donate 76 million yen to buy these islands, it is understandable that these people really want government instead of private owner to own these islands, but the ruling government rather should own these islands much better than local government or private owner.

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@kwatt : May. 03, 2012 - 11:38AM JST

@JapanGal

It would be not much difference between buying them now and bought them 10, 20 years ago, because this is nothing to do with foreign exchange or stock exchange on these islands and also they try to buy these islands with to use Japanese yen in Japan, no $$ or no Euro. This is absolutely a domestic matter.

i guess, JapalGal is referring to my house not a chain of disputed and deserted islands !

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That ¥76 mil is fool's gold. I don't see the Americans ever coming to clean up such a ridiculous mess. Anyway, I'd be surprised if even 30% would go for the actual purpose.

Anyway, Tohoku evacuees might have different opinions about the enthusiasm of Tokyoites about their priorities.

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I don't get it. Will purchasing the islands really help to end the territorial dispute? If not then just another wasteful spending.

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Well, at least they're using their own money, and not the TAXPAYERS' money.

If they're stupid enough to want to buy tiny little islands with their own money, then let them.

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Anyway, Tohoku evacuees might have different opinions about the enthusiasm of Tokyoites about their priorities.

True, these guys are willing to spend millions, billions of yens for some nationalistic ego purposes, and when that kind of money could be spent for Tohoku restoration instead. WTF are they thinking? Self-absorbed much?

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Good on people of Japan. Finally people of Japan spoke out!! .

Would you please provide me with the address where I can donate my share to? .

Does Mayor of Tokyo Mr. Shintaro Ishihara, Japan work?

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Good on people of Japan. Finally people of Japan spoke out!! . Would you please provide me with the address where I can donate my share to? . Does Mayor of Tokyo Mr. Shintaro Ishihara, Japan work?

Can you tell me WHY exactly do you think that this is a good idea?

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What does it take to get the readers and Japanese people to understand that is one problem. "Who will control the oil and gas resources?" If Japan finally would finally accept its responsibility to defend the homeland, the problem would be solved and the Yanks on Okinawa could come home. Japan needs to start drilling NOW on the island, establish domain and possession based on the international waters agreement or say good-by to the territory. Everyone in Japan can enjoy the high office temperatures and subway delays this summer and in the future.

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That's about the budget I'd allocate for the purpose. I mean since the islets are really too small to relocate the population Tokyo Prefectures in case of catastrophe, I assume they plan buy it to make a lunatic asylum for retired governors. That's where Ishihara will go to live after the next election. For himself, his family (if they really want) and medical staff, that will be just well.

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If only they were raising this money for Tohoku and the ultra-wingers cared as much for their own nation as they do silly rocks and the concept of pride. "Aikoku" = death of your country. There is a BIG difference between pride and nationalism, and this is nothing but nationalism in the worst sense. Ishihara has plenty more important things to focus on, but island disputes and the Olympics (under the guise of Tohoku reconstruction) seem to be the top priorities for him.

Anyway, they may as well just directly give this money to China for all China is going to care about which part of Japan Japan claims the islands belong to.

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When the islands are bought, he may want to build a wall there to protect Tokyo from illegal immigration. It is fairly cheap solution and, I heard, is quite popular...

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How sickening to see this money go to a useless endeavour when it could be feeding and clothing people in tohoku. As many have stated this is an issue for the government to decide not some local politician whose only purpose in life seems to be "annoy Johnny forigner"

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What does it take to get the readers and Japanese people to understand that is one problem. ""Who will control the oil and gas resources?"

So, are these islands actually rich in resources, or is this simply about childish territorial disputes between two (or more) countries...?

If only they could stopped acting like children... and acted more sensibly without being heavily inclined by nationalistic fervor. Let's face it... this is more about spiting China more than anything else. These people are acting more like little children... unbelievable.

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Wonder how many of his pet right wing uyoku boys with their ghetto blasters fronted up cash, and how many business fronts for crime syndicates? Many, is my guess.

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The problem is: even if they will be able to buy the islands with such a small amount of money and the chinese will give up on it, the chinese will focus then on another part of Japan (or another asian country) to overtake... Territorial disputes became the new hobby of China...

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i wouldnt settle for less than a Billion$. then ill turn around and sell it to the chinese for 5 billion.

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This is gross. Millions of people need aid because the 3/11 triple disaster and here are stupid nationalistic hicks raising money for absolutely nothing. The islands are Japanese or not Japan's no matter if Tokyo buys those islands or not. I my view, which I believe is the international view, those islands are Japan's whether Ishihara gets Tokyo to buy them or not. What this business is doing is making Japan look idiotic in front of the whole world at the worst possible time. It is fair to ask just how seriously Japan is taking the real problems that are confronting it.

There is only one reason to contribute to this nonsense: if you think giving Ishihara more sensational publicity is a good thing.

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@kabuki lover

Senkaku islands are part of Okinawa, and Okinawa is part of Japan, and not part of USA! Get those military bases out of Okinawa/Japan!

Tibet is part of China/Taiwan as is Guam part of USA. The question is: Is Japan becoming part of USA?

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Perhaps the national government should take the money that would have gone to China via ODA and instead use it to buy the island to make it government property?

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What kind of politician wastes 76mil in donations on a disputed island when people all over the city are struggling jus to get by?

Another puzzling statement from tkoind2. The donation account was set up because people were sending money to the Metropolitan government when Ishihara announced his intentions to buy the islands. Your statement make it appear as though Tokyo was misappropriately using the donations for this purpose.

And when people in Tohoku are still so far from recovered?

Another puzzling statement. I don't know if you read the news or not but the funds for reconstruction already passed the Diet so the money is already there. The implemenation of such funds is not the role of the Tokyo municipal government. They could however help in other ways like accept the debris from affected areas to help in the disposal effort. Oh wait. I seem to recall Tokyo was the first one to accept the debris.. Oh wait, I seem to remember correctly that you were against that idea. And you have the nerve to question the welfare of Tohoku???

I truly hated Ishihara for his racism, his corruption, his insensitivity to the people of Tokyo and of Japan, his inability to do what is right for people here and his blatant capacity to ignore the judgement of authorities. But now I find that his idiocy has left me simply wondering what the hell is wrong with the people of Tokyo. After all it is the people of this city that this guy routinely screws over. And yet there is silence over his actions

Please spare with your "foreigners know what's best" attitude because it's clearly evident that you have absolutely no clue as to what the general population is thinking about. The overwhelming positive response for his actions clearly demonstrates that citizens of Tokyo as well as other areas are clearly frustrated by the central government's inaction in terms of protecting the territorial rights of Japan. What you deemed to be "right for the people here" has no audience because your "puzzling statements" referenced above.

I think this speaks volumes about the political sophistication and awareness of the average Tokyo denizen. And is a sad sign of just how unlikely it is that the people of Tokyo can, will or will ever do what is necessary to improve their condition and take control over their political destiny. Maybe less of the political savvy of the nation has changed since the war years than we had hoped. The people are still being led by leaders who simply want to use them.

Do you ever look up the internet to find out what the experts as well as Tokyo citizens are thinking in regards to the possible purchase? For instance, by purchasing the said islands and using the donations to develop ports and infrastructure, this paves way for the large Japanese companies to actually conduct offshore gas drilling on Japan's EEZ. This in essence paves way for less reliance on foreign imports which is absolutely necessary when considering the trend to move away from nuclear power. As many stated on the internet, this sort of action should have been done by the central government decades ago.

As it stands now, the islands are owned by an individual with the Japanese government paying rent. (<---tax money). So I ask you tkoind2. Which is more of a waste?

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This is very nationalistic.... and a stupid thing to do diplomacy wise. Why not just send a missile into the middle of Beijing and be done with the atagonising Ishihara "Poke China Poke China Poke China OMG CHINAS COMING FOR US!!!"

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LOL, sounds like a good idea.

Hey Ishihara, I'm the real owner you should pay me. Can't believe this guy keeps getting elected.

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Who let Ishihara out of the crazy home again? If he wants to antagonize China so much why not just go over there and mouth off?

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So, is there any reason why these people would rather spend the money on these islands than for Tohoku? What are they thinking?

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Japanese younger people are becoming more nationalistic and Ishihara is getting their support. This needs to be done to protect Japan from Chinese imperialist ambition.

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How small are these islands? 76,000,000.00 JPY = 945,486.61 USD thats not much money. Thats a four bedroom house in most cities.... not a couple of islands.

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Unspoilt Pacific islands? Sounds great. Can't wait for the package tours.

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Another idiotic move by an avowed racist. He's a great rep for the largest city in Japan. Truly disgusting.

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Japanese younger people are becoming more nationalistic and Ishihara is getting their support. This needs to be done to protect Japan from Chinese imperialist ambition.

You say that as if it's a good thing... And anyway, Ishihara is not very popular among the young folks.

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Would you please provide me with the address where I can donate my share to? .

http://www.chijihon.metro.tokyo.jp/senkaku.htm

No English site available

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Believe or not, Ishihara is getting more popular among young Japanese. It's a good thing but you wouldn't probably understand unless you are Japanese.

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@Blair Herron,

Thank you. I completed the transaction for my donation to the site you have suggested. Thank you, Blair as always..

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@globalwatcher - Your donation would have done a lot more good if you'd given it to help the victims of the tsunami and the Fukushima nuclear boondoggle.

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@globalwatcher - Your donation would have done a lot more good if you'd given it to help the victims of the tsunami and the Fukushima nuclear boondoggle

@Serrano. I agreed. I went to Japan on March 20 2011 for the rescue mission and stayed there more than 3 months and hellped. . I have just came back from another tour of Japan on 4/17 in addition to my personal monetary donations to Tohoku victims.. So I have been doing lots more than most Japanese do. FYI

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I forgot to add Serrano, I ACT, no cheap lip service on JT. I believe the little actions like mine only brings hope, future and dream to Japanese people. Let's stop being judgemental and critical. We need to act NOW.

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Buying these isLands are a smart idea, land these days has all but been baught up or claimed entirely by different nations. If you think in terms of thousands of years or greater, sucsessive generations of human existance. You would see the value in such a move whereas releations can be won or lost at many different times and in many different situations. Our econonmys for the most part in todays terms rely heavily on growth, because of population rise and sustainance and the exhaustion of natural resources on which entire growth enterprises are founded. Therefore japan vying for this land will be of use in the future.

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Words like nationalism for me as of today is thinking in terms of what is best for ones own countries future.

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Nationalism used to be used to inspire wars, I do not think that's the case. This is a matter of what's what, and those islands are clearely between south korean and japan, japanese have been around them since and dominating the area of them since the sengoku jedi period of japan. As major trade routes and trading islands.

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the only people who will be happy will be the Kurihara family who stand to rake in ¥1.5 billion.

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Kyle Sakic I mostly agree with you but you seem to be talking about different set of islands. This is Senkaku, not Takeshima, which is located between South Korea and Japan.

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It is nothing to do with Nationalism folks. We need to keep Chinese out of the area, PERIOD. It is a national security issue. Chinese submarines have been cruising around the area without any difficulties in the past. Let's stop them. Again, give Japanese Cocast Guards a big credit to keep it safe. . Thanks to them!

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Once this deal is completed, then we need to deal with Russians for the Northern Islands issues. They belong to Japanese. Let's do this one at time, folks. We all need to stand up for the solidarity to act together since Nagatacho politicians are useless negotiators with Russians.

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Japan needs to build stronger economy and conventional military before dealing successfully with Russians. People seem to be talking about creating internal demands by renewing infrastructures within Japan instead of relying on export. There is also discussion of changing Constitution written by the Americans during occupation. They all sound good to me. Japanese people should take away the political control from the big business and social/political establishment.

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The Chinese are known for their sneaky land grabbing ways. Those islands are Japanese so why should they have to pay China anything? Where is America to protect South East Asia? China is trying to steal islands from Japan and the Philippines, and they have the military power to do it. At the end of WWII America promised the protection of land from foreign invasion. Where are the Americans now? Is the American government made up of a bunch of liars? That's what China thinks. They will the money and then take these islands from Japan regardless.

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peanut666

The Chinese are known for their sneaky land grabbing ways. Those islands are Japanese so why should they have to pay China anything?

Oh peanut! dont you even read the article or know your own history. The money that the senile fool in Tokyo has scammed from the people is to buy the islands from a JAPANESE family. The money is not being paid to China at all, so your anti China rant is so far off base its not even funny.

Where is America to protect South East Asia? China is trying to steal islands from Japan and the Philippines, and they have the military power to do it. At the end of WWII America promised the protection of land from foreign invasion. Where are the Americans now? Is the American government made up of a bunch of liars? That's what China thinks.

HAHA is this the same US that you Japanese are demanding leave their bases in Okinawa, you know the bases that are close to these disputed islands that you want the US to protect for you. So you want them out of their bases but you also want their protection hey..... Maybe the US isnt getting involved because they actually dont support your claim to these islands. They support your administration of the islands but not your claim. Funny that.....

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Tokyo has received more than 120mil yen in 6 days. I have to figure out how to donate from outside Japan. One step closer to protect the islands from China.

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CletusMay. 08, 2012 - 07:25AM JST Oh peanut! dont you even read the article or know your own history. The money that the senile fool in Tokyo has scammed from the people is to buy the islands from a JAPANESE family. The money is not being paid to China at all, so your anti China rant is so far off base its not even funny. HAHA is this the same US that you Japanese are demanding leave their bases in Okinawa, you know the bases that are close to these disputed islands that you want the US to protect for you. So you want them out of their bases but you also want their protection hey..... Maybe the US isnt getting involved because they actually dont support your claim to these islands. They support your administration of the islands but not your claim. Funny that.....

Ishihara is going to buy the island and claim ownership so that the Kurihara family won't get pressured by China to get off the island. Ishihara can use Japan's military defenses while the Kurihara's don't have that kind of pull to stop the Chinese harassment. The Chinese is known for their sneaky land grabbing ways, and pressuring the Kurihara family to get off the island is atypical of their behavior.

The US should get off of Okinawa and move to Shimoji-shima. The Japanese island of Shimoji-shima is less than 250 nautical miles from Taiwan and has a 10,000-foot runway, built decades ago for civilian airline flight training. It is long enough for combat-armed F-15C fighter planes to use safely. That vantage point would be strategically smarter for America to protect the South East Asia region.

So all your snickering is just that. Snickering. Do some real studying and analysis, rather than using your ill informed and ignorant personal attacks.

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The Japanese central government formally annexed the islands on January 14, 1895. The islands were under US government occupation authority from 1945 until 1972. The islands were under US government occupation authority from 1945 until 1972 and the mayor of Ishigaki has been given civic authority over the territory. Since 2002, the Ministry of Internal Affairs and Communications has paid the islands' owners ¥24 million a year to rent Uotsuri, Minami Kojima and Kita Kojima. Japan's Ministry of Defense rents Kuba island from its owner for an undisclosed amount. Japan's central government completely owns Taisho island.

The Chinese PRC and ROC claim that the islands have been a part of Chinese territory since at least 1534. They acknowledge that Japan took control of the islands in 1894–1895 during the first Sino-Japanese War, through the signature of the Treaty of Shimonoseki. They assert that the Potsdam Declaration (which Japan accepted as part of the San Francisco Peace Treaty) required that Japan relinquish control of all islands except for "the islands of Honshū, Hokkaidō, Kyūshū, Shikoku and such minor islands as we determine", and they state that this means control of the islands should pass to China. In other words, China thinks half of Japan belongs to them. They feel that Japan should PAY them for using those island.

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peanut666May. 09, 2012 - 03:45AM JST. In other words, China thinks half of Japan belongs to them.

China can and should submit their dispute to the International Court of Justice (ICJ) at The Hague. This may provide an answer. The court's schedule likely means years of uncertainty before a decision is rendered, and given the inherent legal difficulties, there is a good chance the ICJ would render a divided or inconclusive judgement. The question is whether Japan's administration is tainted by war, claiming by conquest is invalid.

China has a long, long memory when it comes to redressing what it feels are injustices and they are not going to give up on this easily for reasons of pride alone. Japan will not surrender with ease either. Now, the U.S. would love to see China and Japan have a long lasting falling out over this problem. If China and Japan can make an opportunity out of all this, to sit down and discuss the issue peacefully then there is much to be accomplished. Japan may need China for economic development. Mostly, the two countries have the chance to work out a major problem without U.S. intervention.

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In this case China seems to suffer from Dementia, not remembering the fact that she has in the past recognized the islands as part of Japan, dating back to the period before the first Sino-Japanese War. Japanese should feel pretty confident going to ICJ.

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sfjp330May. 09, 2012 - 04:14AM JST China has a long, long memory when it comes to redressing what it feels are injustices and they are not going to give up on this easily for reasons of pride alone.

Unfortunately, China's memory is one of distorted and revisionist history created by government propaganda. Because of this reason alone, I don't see Japan and China coming into any agreement. China feels that the world owes them, and because they feel that way, they will be the harbinger of war.

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