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Tokyo reports 276 new coronavirus cases; nationwide tally 692

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The Tokyo metropolitan government on Thursday reported 276 new cases of the coronavirus, up 127 from Wednesday. The number is the result of 5,826 tests conducted on Sept 7.

The age groups with the most cases were people in their 30s (71), 40s (57) and 20s (56).

The tally brought Tokyo's cumulative total to 22,444.

The number of infected people with severe symptoms is 23, one down from Wednesday, health officials said.

Nationwide, the number of reported cases was 692. After Tokyo, the prefectures with the most cases were Kanagawa (112), Osaka (92), Aichi (36), Saitama (30), Chiba (28), Fukuoka (24), Hyogo (21) and Hokkaido (11).

No deaths were reported.

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Maybe it would be useful to include the complete age group breakdown?

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-1 ( +3 / -4 )

5,000 tests for a population of 38 million in Tokyo...

Would be interesting to see the numbers with increased testing, and how the public would react.

See too many with masks swinging on the ear and masks on the chin since these numbers - and number of tests - started decreasing.

6 ( +12 / -6 )

@AG

Since when is the pooulation of Tokyo 38million?

-14 ( +7 / -21 )

So, let's wait and see what those who always deny everything have to say this time.

People, for the time being we have to live (hopefully) with this virus.

And that's quite some increase compared with the previous numbers!

2 ( +8 / -6 )

@AG: I also see many here in Osaka without masks, especially when they are out in the izakayas, bars and restaurants. Japan is "selling" it's Japan Model with the three C's, always wants to export something, and idea, concept, but with little weight.

Not to discuss here not the numbers up/down trending, etc, but something related;

Wanted to mention here something I did not know and was shocked about. One of my best friends (Japanese) was allowed to travel to many different places within the past months (visited many prefectures, including Hokkaido last week (she was on that diverted Niigata flight because that man didn't wanna wear a mask, coincidentally!)).

Anyway, although this is OK (spending money on the economy by GoTo traveling with your friends around the country), it was NOT ok to visit her own biological father's funeral this week, because this was in another prefecture. What?! These rules are so hypocritical and make me furious. Super sad.

16 ( +20 / -4 )

All these number are simply a bluff,how many test they did in the largest metropolitan area in the world which makes 32 million people including it’s suburb.

koike&co. just aim at two main things,save the olympics due to the lobbies involved and the huge amount of invests and of course save her face and her ultra conservative friends.

6 ( +9 / -3 )

@Ag

Sorry, it is depend how you see Tokyo.

As for Tokyo Metropolis it is 14.000.000

-10 ( +8 / -18 )

I wouldn't be surprised if I have a mild case.

1 ( +5 / -4 )

So that means 5826 people shows symptoms and decided to go to hospital.

5826 with symptoms among 38 million or 14 Million are how many percentage?

0.01%

0.04%

276 people positiv

0.0007%

0.001%

Everyone is free to decide what he or she wants to do.

-18 ( +6 / -24 )

Why so many people with fever for 4 consecutive days in Japan? And how many with similar symptoms were rejected by the gov for testing? Obviously, numbers make no sense in Japan.

11 ( +15 / -4 )

And that's quite some increase compared with the previous numbers!

I agree. Its not abating. Its getting worse. And we haven't even gotten to the fall and winter yet.

7 ( +14 / -7 )

@Martini

it was NOT ok to visit her own biological father's funeral this week, because this was in another prefecture.

This is completely wrong!

Inside Japan you can go wherever you want.

-10 ( +7 / -17 )

@Martini

In Japan you are allowed to go everywhere!

You can go to each prefecture you want.

-11 ( +6 / -17 )

We are all doomed. It’s the end I tell you!

-9 ( +4 / -13 )

“agree. Its not abating. Its getting worse”

When there may or may not be a flare up of the flu. Which will be counted as Corona.

It’s not Ebola, stop hyper-ventilating. Chill....

-8 ( +5 / -13 )

stop hyper-ventilating.

Masks can help with that.

2 ( +5 / -3 )

Could you explain the situation? You said your friend travelled to many prefectures and then said she wasnt allowed to attend her father's funeral because it was in another prefecture.

2 ( +6 / -4 )

The difference now is we know 270 cases doesnt automatically equal 540 cases next week.

We also know that even 500 cases a day didn't overrun the health system.

We also know if it gets out of hand, temporarily asking people to cut down on eating out can reverse the trend

we now know 269 of them are likely to recover, unfortunately the 90 year olds may be at risk but its either accepting that risk or going into lockdown and accepting all the pain that would cause.

So as always stay home if you want and go out if you want.

-6 ( +4 / -10 )

There are no travel restrictions within Japan as far as I know however I imagine someone who just traveled may skip a funeral if many elderly might be present.

6 ( +8 / -2 )

@martini

So compaines have rules against traveling to tokyo.

I have also heard of some temples refusing to let tokyo, osaka relatives attend (not very holy)

But as to laws there are none

-4 ( +4 / -8 )

@i@n: I don't want to waste more energy on this, so this is my last post about it, it is the truth, take it or leave it (am not going to defend more to a Monty-ignorance, complete waste). To answer your question: she was not allowed to attend the funeral (obviously you can enter the other prefectures) because she (and other members) were from other prefectures, just like her husband, and other family members. The brother and his wife live in the same prefecture, so they were allowed to attend the funeral. This is my best friend, so I know there are no lies here. Can't believe some people here.

6 ( +9 / -3 )

Readers, back on topic please.

Since when is the pooulation of Tokyo 38million?

While Tokyo 23 wards population is around 14 million, the Greater Tokyo Area’s population is around 38 million.

6 ( +8 / -2 )

“So as always stay home if you want and go out if you want.”

Seems reasonable

-7 ( +2 / -9 )

“Masks can help with that.”

Nope. Sorry to pop your bubble

https://www.infectioncontroltoday.com/view/cloth-masks-are-useless-against-covid-19

-11 ( +1 / -12 )

Surgical masks are effective in slowing the transmission of this virus:

https://www.ucsf.edu/news/2020/06/417906/still-confused-about-masks-heres-science-behind-how-face-masks-prevent

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.livescience.com/amp/are-face-masks-effective-reducing-coronavirus-spread.html

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/06/200612172200.htm

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.the-scientist.com/news-opinion/how-face-masks-can-help-prevent-the-spread-of-covid-19-67646/amp

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wsj.com/amp/articles/face-masks-really-do-matter-the-scientific-evidence-is-growing-11595083298

https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2020/p0714-americans-to-wear-masks.html

https://med.stanford.edu/news/all-news/2020/06/stanford-scientists-contribute-to-who-mask-guidelines.html

I could go on and on, but you get the picture.

6 ( +9 / -3 )

It’s not that high a number. Relax! There was a cluster at a sumo stable so that contributed.

i work at a very large Japanese company. Everyone comes to work masked up. So far no cases. If you want to stay at home and avoid everyone dozo. I’m not going to but I will take suitable precautions.

-7 ( +1 / -8 )

“Masks can help with that.”

Nope. Sorry to pop your bubble

https://www.infectioncontroltoday.com/view/cloth-masks-are-useless-against-covid-19

Hahaha I assume that's the conclusive scientific proof you were looking for.

Im glad you found it.

But from the url it says cloth masks and the comment you quoted says 'masks' only, is that applicable?

1 ( +4 / -3 )

Japan needs to test more, not only those with symptoms but random numbers of the population. The only way to identify spikes and clusters. The virus is here, Japan needs to stop pretending it’s a small issue that they can control.

Test, test, test and not just those at the borders.

4 ( +9 / -5 )

“But from the url it says cloth masks and the comment you quoted says 'masks' only, is that applicable?”

Ok then here’s another, bang on the money

https://www.meehanmd.com/blog/2020-07-22-if-masks-dont-work-then-why-do-surgeons-wear-them/

-7 ( +2 / -9 )

While Tokyo 23 wards population is around 14 million, the Greater Tokyo Area’s population is around 38 million.

There are about 1 million residents in the 23 wards while the entire Tokyo has 14 mil.

By the general definition, the "Greater Tokyo" comprises of Tokyo plus the three neighboring prefectures sharing the borders: Kanagawa, Chiba and Saitama. Whose corona-related daily numbers are thus counted and reported separately.

0 ( +2 / -2 )

https://www.meehanmd.com/blog/2020-07-22-if-masks-dont-work-then-why-do-surgeons-wear-them/

https://www.infectioncontroltoday.com/view/surgical-cotton-masks-equally-ineffective-blocking-covid-19-spread-say-investigators

http://www.asahi.com/sp/ajw/articles/13523664

https://www.acpjournals.org/doi/10.7326/M20-1342

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.aier.org/article/how-a-free-society-deals-with-pandemics-according-to-legendary-epidemiologist-and-smallpox-eradicator-donald-henderson/amp/

I could go on and on. But I’m sure you get the picture regarding face coverings

-5 ( +1 / -6 )

Readers, please don't turn this thread into another discussion on the efficacy of masks.

This is just so repetitive I've given up... beginning of the week few days with low to mid 100 cases as the tests drop to generally around 1 to 2 thousand per day around the weekend...by the mid week testing ramps up" to the almighty 5000 per day or so and we are back to around 300 positives ( plus /minus 50 ) ...it's been going on for months ..there is absolutely no strategy to increase testing to get a true pic of the spread...the number of tests in a metropolis of Tokyo,s size being so low due to the public health centre bottlenecks / stringent testing criteria is ridiculous. Mid size cities in the west test way more than that daily Wanna keep the numbers down through limiting testing so that the " safety Olympics can be held at all costs " ..fine.

Just don't compare Japan's numbers to other countries that are testing 10,20 times more and declare the success of the Japan,s model. Because apples definitely ain't apples here.

14 ( +15 / -1 )

Nearly 200 positive results from nearly 6,000 tests. However, the article fails to note the National results for new cases and it fails to denote if the tests carried out were national or just in Tokyo. The J-Gov is clearly fudging the results to support Koike’s decision to reduce the restrictions on place to control the spread of the virus.

9 ( +12 / -3 )

Is the media still reporting the number of cases? It seems that everything is back to normal. People are going back to work, restaurants and traveling. Maybe the risk is not that high.

-8 ( +2 / -10 )

So, let's wait and see what those who always deny everything have to say this time.

People, for the time being we have to live (hopefully) with this virus.

And that's quite some increase compared

with the previous numbers!

Less than 30 people seriously ill with it. Good news!

-8 ( +3 / -11 )

Send the bill to china !

-3 ( +2 / -5 )

And to make things worse, the vaccine will not work.

-5 ( +0 / -5 )

Just don't compare Japan's numbers to other countries that are testing 10,20 times more and declare the success of the Japan,s model. Because apples definitely ain't apples here.

Well I can certainly compare Japan to countries that are testing 10, 20 or even more times.

Here goes:

Despite the low number of testing, Japan has lower number of deaths compared to many countries which are testing a lot more.

Examples from worldometer as of right now:

Japan. 11 12,957

Brazil 604. 67,691

Russia 127 270,647

USA. 589. 269,439

Germany 112 160,269

China 3 111,163

First column of numbers deaths per million population.

Second column of numbers tests per million population

-8 ( +1 / -9 )

And to make things worse, the vaccine will not work.

Oh no!!

Why didn't you say so before?!

Could have saved the world maybe hundreds of billions of dollars in development costs

-1 ( +3 / -4 )

I am surprised. I figured the number would be in the teens. On the other hand my metro train is packed right now with no social distancing.

2 ( +4 / -2 )

noriahojanen

There are about 1 million residents in the 23 wards while the entire Tokyo has 14 mil.

Uh, no. 23 wards is close to 10Mil, Tokyo prefecture around 14mil, "greater Tokyo Metropolis" (Tokyo / Chiba / Saitama / Kanagawa) is 38 mil or so.

0 ( +2 / -2 )

Tiring.

The merry-go-round goes on indefinitely.

0 ( +2 / -2 )

https://worldpopulationreview.com/world-cities/tokyo-population

0 ( +0 / -0 )

Tiring.

The merry-go-round goes on indefinitely.

Well this is expected.

It will go on indefinitely until effective vaccines have been developed.

But good news is Japan is still in good shape.

Despite the dire predictions of the hysterics deaths are still very low.

Look at the facts, despite the low number of tests, the death counts are actually very low compared to many countries with far more number of tests:

Examples from worldometer as of right now:

Japan. 11 12,957

Brazil 604. 67,691

Russia 127. 270,647

USA. 589. 269,439

Germany 112. 160,269

China 3 111,163

First column of numbers deaths per million population.

Second column of numbers tests per million population

So cheer up man we're gonna be ok =)

-5 ( +2 / -7 )

People do not seem to get it the amount of testing is so low that it should be considered criminal. If someone feels sick and feverish and you want a test to see if you have COVID it is not as simple as walking to the hospital and asking for a test and getting it. You have to jump through hoops and even if a doctor requests the test it does not mean you will get one, because the doctor will send their recommendation to an office and that office will go yeah or neah. So all those who think Japan is doing a great job on this and the numbers are low, nah. One more point, I went to a hospital in Tokyo for my son regarding his listening and they have a big sign if you have had and I underline had COVID you are not permitted in.

0 ( +2 / -2 )

Autumn has arrived.

-2 ( +0 / -2 )

Tests show higher numbers but no mass deaths in Japan yet.

However, this number is bound to increase as the weather is now becoming cooler and the virus becomes more transmissible.

One reason the numbers will rise is the acute lack of space in major cities making social distancing impossible.

Tokyo will continue to record higher numbers going forward leading to another attempt to reduce the numbers by stalling social interaction, which will fail.

This is the start of the second wave.,.

-2 ( +2 / -4 )

 if you have COVID it is not as simple as walking to the hospital and asking for a test and getting it.

If you suspect covid19 you're not supposed to just walk in to a hospital, you have to call the covid hotline first.

0 ( +1 / -1 )

“agree. Its not abating. Its getting worse”

When there may or may not be a flare up of the flu. Which will be counted as Corona.

It’s not Ebola, stop hyper-ventilating. Chill....

This is much worse than Ebola genius. How many people has Ebola killed? How many people has this virus killed?

0 ( +2 / -2 )

 I went to a hospital in Tokyo for my son regarding his listening and they have a big sign if you have had and I underline had COVID you are not permitted in.

Ashley, you should really post that sign on Facebook Twitter Youtube Instagram with translations. Get the word out.

0 ( +2 / -2 )

Ian

But good news is Japan is still in good shape.

Despite the dire predictions of the hysterics deaths are still very low.

Look at the facts, despite the low number of tests, the death counts are actually very low compared to many countries with far more number of tests

You continue to ramble about the number of deaths being low, can you provide

us with data of the number of deaths for the past 7 months so that we can compare

with the previous years, maybe the fact is hidden in the data.

-2 ( +1 / -3 )

It's a matter of how deaths are being recorded. My wife's aunt had been in hospital since June with a seperate condition. She then caught coronavirus in the hospital and recently passed away. The cause of death was recorded as the original condition and not that of Covid-19. I wonder how often this has been happening?

2 ( +3 / -1 )

It's a matter of how deaths are being recorded. My wife's aunt had been in hospital since June with a seperate condition. She then caught coronavirus in the hospital and recently passed away. The cause of death was recorded as the original condition and not that of Covid-19. I wonder how often this has been happening?

That is why comparing the number of deaths this year with previous years will be a better indicator.

It is all apparent that the "Look good mindset" is playing into the numbers.

0 ( +2 / -2 )

cause of death has nothing to do with death rate of corona virus positive patients, they often simply written as pneumonia but those are also included in the number of covid 19 patient positive cases

-1 ( +1 / -2 )

You continue to ramble about the number of deaths being low, can you provide

us with data of the number of deaths for the past 7 months so that we can compare

with the previous years, maybe the fact is hidden in the data.

Lol I'm not rambling, that data was taken from worldometer, cumulative.

Speaking of rambling, you should read on why the govt is testing the way they are and try to understand it so you could stop rambling about number of tests.

Its not arbitrarily set like you think.

-2 ( +1 / -3 )

As for the deaths I have long ago proposed to those who question the data that they should compare the yearly excess deaths so they'll have a basis for their doubts.

Rambling that the number of deaths must be higher without basis is just plain rambling of a hysteric

-2 ( +1 / -3 )

cause of death has nothing to do with death rate of corona virus positive patients, they often simply written as pneumonia but those are also included in the number of covid 19 patient positive cases

Seems to me, you didn't read soylentgreen's post.

Nope, they include only when the person was tested before they died but Soylentgreen's

post shows, that too is not always the case. Test for covid-19 is rarely carried out on a corpse.

2 ( +3 / -1 )

Tests for covid-19 are, I believe, never carried out on a corpse.

2 ( +2 / -0 )

Lol I'm not rambling, that data was taken from worldometer, cumulative.

Speaking of rambling, you should read on why the govt is testing the way they are and try to understand it so you could stop rambling about number of tests.

Its not arbitrarily set like you think.

Wondering why you are relying on worldometer for information and not from MHLW in Japan that

you live in and is supposed to be readily available, any reason for that ?

I have not seen any material that explains why the gov't test regime is the way it is, if you can help

lead me to it I will appreciate. And just because some bureaucrat , minster or gov't appointed expert

gives reasons for the low tests doesn't mean he (they) are right. Abe and Suga defended the Abenomask

but because they say it helped doesn't mean it is true we should just believe them, they will say anything to cover their backs. It is left to each and everyone of us to think and analyse.

0 ( +1 / -1 )

Ian

As for the deaths I have long ago proposed to those who question the data that they should compare the yearly excess deaths so they'll have a basis for their doubts.

Rambling that the number of deaths must be higher without basis is just plain rambling of a hysteric

It would help your argument providing us with links for this year death statistics so that we can check and

compare or are you just talking out of your imagination?

0 ( +1 / -1 )

It's a matter of how deaths are being recorded. My wife's aunt had been in hospital since June with a seperate condition. She then caught coronavirus in the hospital and recently passed away. The cause of death was recorded as the original condition and not that of Covid-19. I wonder how often this has been happening?

Exactly. Excellent point.

> It is all apparent that the "Look good mindset" is playing into the numbers.

Absolutely!

-2 ( +0 / -2 )

@ashelyOne more point, I went to a hospital in Tokyo for my son regarding his listening and they have a big sign if you have had and I underline had COVID you are not permitted in.

Sorry, regularly you comment people aren’t taking the virus seriously, and then you complain when a hospital is goes overboard with it precaution.

which is it, should we all take every precaution or should we take the precautions you think are suitable?

you can’t have it every way

0 ( +2 / -2 )

It's a matter of how deaths are being recorded. My wife's aunt had been in hospital since June with a seperate condition. She then caught coronavirus in the hospital and recently passed away. The cause of death was recorded as the original condition and not that of Covid-19. I wonder how often this has been happening?

A lot of info you left out here. What was the separate condition? How old was she?

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