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Tokyo reports 284 new coronavirus cases; nationwide tally 699

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The Tokyo Metropolitan Government on Thursday reported 284 new cases of the coronavirus, up 107 from Wednesday. The number is the result of 6,201 tests conducted on Oct 12.

The tally brought Tokyo's cumulative total to 28,420.

By the age group, the highest number of infected cases were people in their 20s (69), followed by 67 in their 30s, 42 in their 40s and 31 in their 50s.

The number of infected people in Tokyo with severe symptoms is 25, unchanged from Wednesday, health officials said.

Nationwide, the number of reported cases was 699. After Tokyo, the prefectures with the most cases were Kanagawa (79), Saitama (57), Chiba (54), Osaka (51), Okinawa (39), Hokkaido (30), Aichi (19) and Hyogo (14).

Three coronavirus-related deaths were reported.

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Japanese News NEVER reports haw many were tested.

Only here.

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Japanese News NEVER reports haw many were tested.

Only here.

there's a reason for that

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Thursday reported 284 new cases of the coronavirus, up 107 from Wednesday. The number is the result of 6,201 tests

So basically 1 out of 21 people tested was positive,

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My theory is that they're keeping their randomizers higher than the usual since there's no long weekend yet.

Let's see on the end of the month if it falls to the potential 4-day weekend.

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So basically 1 out of 21 people tested was positive,

Yes, today. But yesterday, 1 out of 5? How is that possible? I am still trying to figure out a plausible explanation other than pulling numbers out of the thin air.

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The most important number is that there are only 25 hospitalized with "severe" symptoms, which is essentially the same number for weeks.

Notice that there's no breakdown of the ages of those 25 or their co-morbidities.

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Yes, today. But yesterday, 1 out of 5? How is that possible? I am still trying to figure out a plausible explanation other than pulling numbers out of the thin air.

Honestly, it wouldn't surprise me

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Notice that there's no breakdown of the ages of those 25 or their co-morbidities.

What's your point, exactly? Yes, extremely likely to be old with co-morbidities. It doesn't mean they don't deserve to live and what would you say if they were your relatives?

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ZorotoToday  05:11 pm JST

Notice that there's no breakdown of the ages of those 25 or their co-morbidities.

What's your point, exactly? Yes, extremely likely to be old with co-morbidities. It doesn't mean they don't deserve to live and what would you say if they were your relatives?

I don't think that was his point - more that even though the official count of cases is fluctuating wildly due to a puzzling testing regime, the number of people with serious symptoms is barely moving, and very few people are dying. Which is a good thing, right?

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Isn't this coming exactly three weeks after the long weekend started?

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I have a question to you guys;

For what purpose do you want to know the exact or correct number of cases and tests?

Does it make any difference to your personally life?

I dont think so.

If the tests conducted are only 1 and positive case is also only 1, or if the tests are 100000 and the positive cases are 100000, we all will continue with our lives in the same way we already did since 10 months now, right?

Going to work in the full packed trains, going to the full packed office...and so on...but we are doing our best personal preventions.

So for me, it makes no sense to complain every day about low tests and wrong numbers of cases, and for me it makes no difference in my personal life to know the real numbers of cases.

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 don't think that was his point

Yes, it was. Go back and look up their posting history?

and very few people are dying.

Actually the death is well over 1% currently, which is very high, much higher than any place in Europe right now.

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Official, Tokyo can use GoTo Travel.

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Japanese News NEVER reports haw many were tested.

Only here.

there's a reason for that

It's inaccurate and unfair. JT and Japanese media outlets are rather unique on corona reporting. I've been checking updates of major non-Japanese outlets in several languages (FR, ZH, and RU). Most daily numbers have disappeared from the headline, harder to reach within texts. They are more likely to describe "surge" "spike" "wave" "down," something else in a non-numerical manner. I suspect there is some "concern" for that.

It is also now common that they show a pattern or 3-7 days rolling average in cases as well as other key figures. A few news sites set a counter in the sideline without any notes. Undoubtedly testing numbers are now much harder to get at once from commercial media levels. You probably have to go further to official info sites to retrieve them.

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ZorotoToday  05:27 pm JST

 don't think that was his point

Yes, it was. Go back and look up their posting history?

and very few people are dying.

Actually the death is well over 1% currently, which is very high, much higher than any place in Europe right now.

You're aware that Japan is only testing a small number of people, right? This skews the death rate because we don't know how many more people are infected and who have mild symptoms but don't get a test or have no symptoms at all.

But a look at the curves together with the figures should give you a reasonable picture of what's going on.

https://covid19japan.com

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A higher number of tests has resulted in a higher number of new cases. It’s quite obvious Tokyo is not doing enough to control the spread of the virus.

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You're aware that Japan is only testing a small number of people

Yes, Japan's death count lately is the pretty the same as the countries which report 10x the number of cases. And that's with not testing post-mortem. Assuming the gold-standard treatment protocols are the same here as everywhere else (e.g. don't rely on Avigen), it's very likely the # of infected in japan at least 20-30x what's the official numbers are.

Of course, they cannot report 10,000 daily cases as then they can kiss the Olympics goodbye.

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Of course, they cannot report 10,000 daily cases as then they can kiss the Olympics goodbye.

Of course, that goes without saying.

But even if Japan did report that number of cases every day, deaths are still staying in the single digits or very low double digits each day. And those who are passing away are around the average life expectancy age anyway in almost all cases, so as harsh as this may sound, they were close to the end anyway. If COVID-19 hadn't claimed their lives directly or indirectly, there's a pretty good chance something else would in the near future, such as the flu.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1105162/japan-patients-detail-novel-coronavirus-covid-19-cases-by-age-and-gender/

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so as harsh as this may sound

Exactly. You wouldn't say this if the person were your mother or father. Would you?

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It's inaccurate and unfair. JT and Japanese media outlets are rather unique on corona reporting. I've been checking updates of major non-Japanese outlets in several languages (FR, ZH, and RU). Most daily numbers have disappeared from the headline, harder to reach within texts.

no they are not. Try pbs, msnbc in the US

In Canada check the national out. They report better than anything in Japan. They have streaming channels on YouTube

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ZorotoToday  06:24 pm JST

so as harsh as this may sound

Exactly. You wouldn't say this if the person were your mother or father. Would you?

I might not use those specific words, but we have to deal with facts here, not just feelings.

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no they are not. Try pbs, msnbc in the US

In Canada check the national out. They report better than anything in Japan. They have streaming channels on YouTube

I don't (nit) pick specific outlets. None of noted media shows daily numbers in the general headline levels though some arrange special tracking section or summary.

JT's reporting style cuts both ways. On the one hand it may be fulfilling readers' demand; on the other hand, it gives rise to unnecessary hypes (with numbers subject to interpretations).

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There's to be a "pneumonia" for people who are interested in the actual numbers.

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*needs to be

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Covid-19 data. From the Tokyo Metropolitan Government.

https://stopcovid19.metro.tokyo.lg.jp/en/

Number of hospitalized people reported yesterday: 1008.

Number of hospitalized people reported today: 1000.

Difference between yesterday and today: -8

Mild-moderate and Serious symptoms data. They are already included in the total number of people hospitalized. It should also be remembered that data on severe symptoms are already reflected in the Japan Today article. And there is no need to mention them again in the comments.

1000 people admitted to hospitals in Tokyo Prefecture. This is very good news.

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Most Japanese get tired of COVID-19.

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As @monty says life goes on.

If I haven't caught it already, there's a chance I'll catch it eventually.Seeing as young or old many people in Japan aren't dying I don't worry.

If you're one of those who post daily (or at least when there's more than 250 cases)

I would humbly suggest you separate the west from Japan in your mind, for whatever reason Japan has a factor x, be it dna, diet, masks, prior exposure, I don't know.

All I know is go-to, schools opening, 50% stadium capacity hasn't resulted in an uptick in deaths or hospitalizations.

Wear a mask for the time being, bu be happy you live here.

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Most Japanese get tired of COVID-19.

I'm sure it will leave then so as not to cause a bother...

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Seeing as young or old many people in Japan aren't dying I don't worry.

Well, hopefully you don't end up with lung scarring or any of the other long-term effects of the disease.

As someone whose spent his life focusing on my body, I can't imagine not having the lungs to support my exercise for the rest of my life. Sounds like hell to me. I think I'd rather die - at least then my family will be provided for.

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All I know is go-to, schools opening, 50% stadium capacity hasn't resulted in an uptick in deaths or hospitalizations.

Ahh, now I see the confusion. You're one of those people that thinks that you either die, or recover fully.

I wish I lived in such a la-dee-da land. Unfortunately there's this whole reality thing out there that the rest of us have to deal with.

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I would humbly suggest you separate the west from Japan in your mind

Does Japan want to be part of Asia again for a while? And then back to being in the west?

Wear a mask for the time being, bu be happy you live here.

We can agree on that, for the time being.

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I don't (nit) pick specific outlets. None of noted media shows daily numbers in the general headline levels though some arrange special tracking section or summary. 

Exactly. And that’s why your post is completely incorrect. You show no knowledge of western media reporting. Take the national for instance. It’s a Canadian broadcasting Corporation that tells the number of coronaviruses per province. It outlines it much better than anyone else I’ve ever seen.

JT's reporting style cuts both ways. On the one hand it may be fulfilling readers' demand; on the other hand, it gives rise to unnecessary hypes (with numbers subject to interpretations).

That’s an entirely different thing altogether. We’re talking about the quality of reporting. And the information given by these use media agencies.Please don’t change the subject.

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