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Tokyo reports 59 new coronavirus cases

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The Tokyo metropolitan government on Wednesday reported 59 new cases of the coronavirus, down 29 from Tuesday. The number is the result of 419 tests conducted on Sept 20.

The tally brought Tokyo's cumulative total to 24,453.

The number of infected people in Tokyo with severe symptoms is 28, two down from Tuesday, health officials said.

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Can someone seriously believe that Japan, without any measures and everyone living their normal lives - just with masks - is the only heavily populated country that does not have cases? 

Some kind of unexplainable miracle?

Other countries wear masks also and the situation in terms of numbers is out of control.

I do believe that we could potentially have way less cases here compared with other countries - if many thousands were tested - however, unfortunately, I guess we will never know.

Having mass testing in Japan and concluding that there were indeed less cases or, less severe cases/deaths would be great as it would mean that something is different here - could be in terms of food, vaccination, any other factor.

Should that be confirmed, it could help saving many hundreds of thousands of lives around the world.

It is not only about testing to know how many cases are in Tokyo, it is about having a global mindset that every democratic country should have right now, instead of limiting the number of tests and making it unaffordable for the common citizen who, for example, decides to go to a private clinic to be tested and pays around ¥30,000 to ¥40,000. 

Yes, if you decide to do it yourself, for travelling or any other reason, you will end up paying an average of 5 to 10x more than in other developed countries.

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AG

Can someone seriously believe that Japan, without any measures and everyone living their normal lives - just with masks - is the only heavily populated country that does not have cases? 

Some kind of unexplainable miracle?

Don't test too much so you can't find cases. Simple really.

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A brilliant result and just goes to show how well Japan has done in handling the virus.

Already there are around 15 prefectures with 10 or fewer active cases, and Saga, Iwate, Ehime and Shimane have no active cases at all.

Japan's approach of taking measures to mitigate, (masks etc.) without shutting down the economy has been the right one.

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59 from tests done on Sunday, the second day of a four-day weekend, when most labs and clinics were closed. Expect low numbers again tomorrow and Friday, followed by much larger numbers announced on Saturday and Sunday.

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A brilliant result and just goes to show how well Japan has done in handling the virus

As many hypochondriacs have been panicking about here on JT for months, the govt did very little. Which if by design or paralysis, was the right call after all. We now know that locking down has no effect and only delays the inevitable. As Alex Berenson says, the "Virus is gonna virus".

As an aside, the US govt last week updated the survival rates (i.e. IF infected) for Covid 19:

0-19 99.997%

20-49 99.98%

50-69 99.5%

70+ 94.6%

You won't see this reported in the MSM. Start to ask yourself why.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/hcp/planning-scenarios.html

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As an aside, the US govt last week updated the survival rates (i.e. IF infected) for Covid 19

Where is this "US govt" update? Please do link (I believe you won't).

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Where is this "US govt" update? Please do link (I believe you won't).

Seriously?

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4 - 1 - 9 tests. That is ridiculously low. Un-be-lie-vab-le and horrendous, to be more precise.

And 59 new cases from that ridiculously low number is also horrendous - 14%.

Holiday or not, at a time of a pandemic the phone lines, and the clinics providing covid testing really, really, should stay open.

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So Japan isn't going to destroy itself because of lack of testing?

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28 people had severe symptoms (which must equate to hospitalization.) This number seems to always be around 30, every day, for the last two months.

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A brilliant result and just goes to show how well Japan has done in handling the virus.

Yeah brilliant, if the U.S or any of the countries where testing at the rate japan was they would also look brilliant, Afterall we know that most of the cases are asympthomatic or mild.

Already there are around 15 prefectures with 10 or fewer active cases, and Saga, Iwate, Ehime and Shimane have no active cases at all.

It would help your argument if you could state the average number of tests they have done. I am sure it is record breaking.

Japan's approach of taking measures to mitigate, (masks etc.) without shutting down the economy has been the right one.

Okay, does it mean all those who get infected here don't wear mask as we are made to believe mask is the ultimate panacea to mitigate the spread of the virus.?

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Its Great...Japan must be using their Brilliant Intuition and Brains unlike most of the

Countries around the World taking orders from the W.H.O. Unelected Technocrats.

The other good thing is that Japanese people will not read the Self Aggrandising Know all

Keyboard Wannabes (Most living outside Japan) who are in every article about the Corona

telling the Japanese and the Gov. how to tie their Shoe Laces. Should do this and that.

You will not be heard except by your fellow Finger Pointers..

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Went to my local conbini today,

The plastic sheets around the counter had suddenly disappeared.

Wonder if its just a one off or has the government sent out a directive?

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https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/hcp/planning-scenarios.html

Did you actually read the article? Did you miss this statement?

Are estimates intended to support public health preparedness and planning

Your figures are an estimate based off their model, not the actual death rate.

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28 people had severe symptoms (which must equate to hospitalization.)

This is a common misinterpretation of the data. There are currently 1,258 hospitalised covid-19 patients in the Tokyo Metropolitan area. This figure does not include those housed in designated lodgings or recuperating at home. 28 are classed as ‘severe symptoms’, which refers to those patients who need ventilators or ECMO.

I would encourage Japan Today to alter their reporting to include this definition, as it seems to be a reoccurring error in the comments.

https://stopcovid19.metro.tokyo.lg.jp/en/

Finally, as a disclaimer, I am not drawing any conclusions based on this data in this post, only clarifying the data for those who wish to do so.

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Went to my local conbini today,

The plastic sheets around the counter had suddenly disappeared.

Wonder if its just a one off or has the government sent out a directive?

I went to three conbinis today (I know, I have a problem) and all still had the plastic barriers up. I am not aware of any government directives, past or present, either way (i.e. to use them or not). I suspect it maybe down to the conbini, especially for franchisee branches.

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Tobias J Gibson Sep. 23 11:42 pm JST

https://stopcovid19.metro.tokyo.lg.jp/en/

Thanks for the link. Now I have a more detailed situation of the coronavirus. In the prefecture of Tokyo.

The total number of people hospitalized as of 23/09/2020 is 1258. Of which 1230 are people with mild to moderate symptoms. And 28 with severe symptoms. Which are the ones that need fans or ECMO.

The truth is that we do not know the total numbers in ICU. The metropolitan government does not make that distinction. I also see confusing data. For example:

"Receiving treatment at lodging facilities"  216 people.

And this other one:

Hospitalization / Medical treatment, etc. 304 people. 

What does this data mean?

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AGSep. 23 04:10 pm JST

Having mass testing in Japan and concluding that there were indeed less cases or, less severe cases/deaths would be great as it would mean that something is different here - could be in terms of food, vaccination, any other factor.

There are studies by the WHO itself. They say that a food diet rich in vitamin D. Like fish. They raise the immune defenses against the coronavirus.

The fact that Japan is the country that consumes the most fish in the world. 

This is probably one of the reasons that the coronavirus is less harmful. Unlike other countries.

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Here's a really interesting study - worth the read. Google "Dynamic Change of COVID-19 Seroprevalence among Asymptomatic Population in Tokyo during the Second Wave"

Or follow this link https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.09.21.20198796v1.full.pdf

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dougthehead13Today  01:34 am JST

Thanks for the link. Now I have a more detailed situation of the coronavirus. In the prefecture of Tokyo.

Your welcome. I also recommend the following site for statistics relating to wider Japan:

https://toyokeizai.net/sp/visual/tko/covid19/en.html

"Receiving treatment at lodging facilities"  216 people.

Lodging facilities are hotels which have been acquired by the government to house asymptomatic or mild cases where hospitalization is unnecessary, but home recuperation is inappropriate (i.e. dormitory residents).

https://www.mhlw.go.jp/content/10900000/000634753.pdf (at p.8)

Hospitalization / Medical treatment, etc. 304 people. 

I admit, I found this figure very confusing as well. As far as I can tell, this refers to individuals who have tested positive, but have not yet been advised as to the status re. treatment /hospitalization. Generally, this is because of bureaucratic delays with the public health offices, however it may also be that the patient is unable to be contacted. This article from NHK touches on the issue, however it is in Japanese:

https://www3.nhk.or.jp/news/html/20200715/k10012516671000.html

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@Sal Affist

28 people had severe symptoms (which must equate to hospitalization.) This number seems to always be around 30, every day, for the last two months.

Yup, and the test numbers on normal weekdays has been around max 5000 for the past couple of months.

I suspect set threshold figures, which hospitals and clinics are not allowed to surpass.

If there's any data to either support this suspicion or to go against it, I'd love to check it.

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