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Tokyo reports 772 new coronavirus cases; nationwide tally 6,420

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The Tokyo metropolitan government on Saturday reported 772 new coronavirus cases, down 82 from Friday.

The average for Tokyo over the past seven days stands at 876.

People in their 20s (234 cases), their 30s (135) and their 40s (125) accounted for the highest numbers, while 99 cases were aged 60 and over.

The number of infected people hospitalized with severe symptoms in Tokyo is 85, up one from Friday, health officials said. The nationwide figure was a record high 1,231, up 22 from Friday.

Nationwide, the number of reported cases as of 6:30 p.m. was 6,420. After Tokyo, the prefectures with the most cases were Osaka (785), Aichi (596), Hokkaido (566), Fukuoka (522), Kanagawa (328), Hyogo (299), Saitama (246), Okayama (185), Hiroshima (176), Okinawa (160), Chiba (140), Kyoto (139), Gifu (139), Shizuoka (120), Kumamoto (116), Nara (83), Gunma (66), Shiga (64), Mie (63), Oita (62), Ibaraki (62), Fukushima (60), Yamaguchi (49), Kagawa (47), Ishikawa (45), Tochigi (43), Niigata (42) and Nagano (40).

The number of coronavirus-related deaths reported nationwide was 94.

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Yeah but according to a source in Yahoo News (Japan) Tokyo chosing not counting deaths unless permission given by relatives to include them in official numbers. So if a relative refuses then, not included. Also Tokyo testing at extremely low rate,at about half of Osaka. You can bet Tokyo numbers would be double if they tested double.

Look to see the numbers in Tokyo come down to around 200-300 by the 31st, just in time for Governor Koike, flanked by some stuffed toy , to declare an end to the state of emergency, and then onward toward to Olympics!

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Testing is a touchy point at the moment. It has to be kept low as this is the best tool for keeping official cases low which is necessary for the Olympics to go ahead. Pesky SOE should be removed o give a better look. At the same time test numbers have to keep hidden because during the Olympics there is going to be a massive surge in test numbers for the athletes and it is not going to look good

General population of Tokyo - maybe 5000 and athletes and officials at Olympics 20,000

5 ( +7 / -2 )

A quick look at test done and positivity rates shows fewer cases is in exact correlation with the government doing fewer tests.

Each time the number of tested goes up the number of cases goes up and recently the number of tests done by the government has been fewer and fewer with people turning to private labs to be tested and that is the only reason we are seeing any sort of higher number of positive cases.

If we only had the government testing we would have about a quarter reported cases.

So the sick who are poor or cannot afford the price of private testing and with so little public testing we will never know the true number of cases or deaths

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Numbers are so low and we believe them so the more reason to travel like we do and will continue to do. Why not? Obviously numbers are so low here because they stopped serving alcohol.

-9 ( +4 / -13 )

@Zoroto

What did they die from?

-12 ( +3 / -15 )

Very low numbers when you consider the size of Tokyo. People complain about the test numbers but number of deaths don’t lie. There is no evidence of a Conspiracy to conceal deaths. It just happens that they are low as would be expected in a clean nation with low obesity rates and a physically active population.

The Covid Conspiracy Theorists will claim the numbers are being hidden but there is no evidence of this. They need to prove to themselves that the numbers are much higher and Covid is more deadly by making things up.

the current policies are fine, non seniors without serious health conditions can go about their daily lives without fear whilst taking precautions of course. If the virus mutates into a more dangerous form then I am sure measures will be taken by the authorities and people will use common sense to change their behaviour.

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@Zoroto

It has been proved to you by myself and numerous others that deaths in Japan fell in 2020 despite your outlandish conspiracy theory of 90,000 deaths being hidden by the Government

-11 ( +7 / -18 )

Pukey2

https://mainichi.jp/english/articles/20201012/p2a/00m/0na/013000c

-9 ( +2 / -11 )

Zoroto

of course not until the years end. Do you? No, but you cherry pick sites that agree with your agenda. As you can see deaths fell in the first ten months of the year. In fact there were 1800 reported deaths by the end of October 2020. If that figure was 5% of all deaths the current reported deaths would be far higher

-7 ( +6 / -13 )

While initially the Japanese way of testing those who exhibit symptoms and are ill seems self-directing, it makes sense when you think about. They are actually "cases" and you don't end up with the ludicrous system in place in many other countries where there is mass testing and people without symptoms, who are otherwise completely healthy, are recorded as a "case", have to stay at home and make it look like there is a nation of zombies walking around.

-8 ( +6 / -14 )

If I am reading this correctly, only around 7100 tests on Thursday

What I see is 8,070 tests done on Thursday but still laughably low. The sharp decrease in testing this week is very obvious - will be interesting to see if it continues lower or increases again next week.

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@FalseFlag Steve:

I totally agree with you. Some people want to have a disaster and play on that to hurt the freedom of the masses.

https://toyokeizai.net/sp/visual/tko/covid19/en.html

This was updated in the last hour or so. It has excellent info about deaths etc.

-9 ( +6 / -15 )

@Ms Oikawa

Correct 110%

-6 ( +5 / -11 )

The number of infected people hospitalized with severe symptoms in Tokyo is **85, up 1 from Friday, health officials said. The nationwide figure was a record high 1,231, up 22 from Friday.**

Well over 30 million in the Tokyo are and over 135,000,000 in Japan.

These numbers are so small it is ridiculous to even post them. Anyone afraid with numbers like this should be ashamed of themselves and not stop living and waiting for the sky to fall.

-5 ( +8 / -13 )

falseflagsteveT

Exactly. You were right on topic about the paranoia and people panicking.

People thrive on it for some reason. We do not.

-10 ( +7 / -17 )

@Zoroto

ZorotoToday 06:07 pm JST

but number of deaths don’t lie.

Apparently it does:

http://www.healthdata.org/news-release/covid-19-has-caused-69-million-deaths-globally-more-double-what-official-reports-show

We know that deaths due to covid are underreported all around the world. But before balancing the result of such a study to support your belief, please do the math and explain why deaths in Japan decreased in 2020 ?

It must be a logical and scientific explanation behind that decrease.

If you search in some of the below csv files, we will find that at the end of November 2020, deaths decreased by 14321 compared to november 2019.

https://www.e-stat.go.jp/stat-search/files?page=1&layout=datalist&toukei=00450011&tstat=000001028897&cycle=1&year=20200&month=24101211&tclass1=000001053058&tclass2=000001053060&tclass3val=0

-1 ( +6 / -7 )

Why do some people believe in a article about underreported deaths in all countries from COVID? Why do you believe this from only a university not a health authority. In some countries yes maybe (underdeveloped or inadequate health care). In my country supposedly 50000 more but where are the bodies. Here 10 x supposedly but then where are the bodies. Regarding testing I’m not displaying any symptoms why get tested if symptoms yes, but I should not be forced to take a test which some of you think should happen. Scaremongering at is worst

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@Liam:

Agreed 110%

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Letsberealistic

Yes, as I said. But in a lot of countries they are called "cases" which is simply wrong. A positive test is not a "case"

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We know that deaths due to covid are underreported all around the world. But before balancing the result of such a study to support your belief, please do the math and explain why deaths in Japan decreased in 2020 ?

It is explained in the methodologies of the study referenced.

Excess mortality is influenced by six drivers of all-cause mortality that relate to the pandemic and the social distancing mandates that came with the pandemic. These six drivers are: a) the total COVID-19 death rate; b) the increase in mortality due to needed health care being delayed or deferred during the pandemic; c) the increase in mortality due to increases in mental health disorders including depression, increased alcohol use, and increased opioid use; d) the reduction in mortality due to decreases in injuries because of general reductions in mobility associated with social distancing mandates; e) the reductions in mortality due to reduced transmission of other viruses, most notably influenza, respiratory syncytial virus, and measles; and f) the reductions in mortality due to some chronic conditions, such as cardiovascular disease and chronic respiratory disease, that occur when frail individuals who would have died from these conditions died earlier from COVID-19 instead. To correctly estimate the total COVID-19 mortality, we need to take into account all six of these drivers of change in mortality that have happened since the onset of the pandemic.

If several other causes of death have a decrease of incidence because of the pandemic (or the measures against it) there is no contradiction.

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Zoroto - Am getting them from https://stopcovid19.metro.tokyo.lg.jp/en/cards/number-of-tested/

They updated the page data at 18:30 today and have added Fridays numbers but I see Thursday's testing numbers are also changed from 8,070 when I posted the comment before 18:30 to 8,853 now (after 21:00) It's strange to change that day's data after the positive cases were confirmed or does that change later too? I wonder if Thursdays testing numbers will change again tomorrow!

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Virusrex

you can’t explain the fall in deaths during a pandemic then?

The first time in a decade for an aging population and the other fellow was claiming Covid deaths are 90% higher than reported. I would have thought as always you would have had a definitive scientific answer with proof to back it up!

In other words, in Japan Covid hasn’t killed very many. You don’t get a fall when a yearly rise should happen anyway just to a few changes of habit during an alleged pandemic

-7 ( +7 / -14 )

Here is my own doctor and friends take on the number of deaths.

His small hospital/clinic treats mostly the elderly in a low income shitamachi area.

Last year he had about a dozen patients died of "pneumonia" but not from influenza as us often the case.

His small hospital can test for influenza but cannot test for covid.

Being unable to get these people tested for covid by the government the only choice was private labs which the patients could not afford or would not pay for.

So in the end all being over 65 no cause was given for the pneumonia.

He knows it was covid because he and members of his staff came down with covid ( which they found out by getting private lab test) but no patients were ever tested due to financial reasons.

So as he put it those that died more likely had covid but due to lack of testing we will never know, one thing that is sure the pneumonia wasn't caused by influenza.

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To correctly estimate the total COVID-19 mortality, we need to take into account all six of these drivers of change in mortality that have happened since the onset of the pandemic.

If several other causes of death have a decrease of incidence because of the pandemic (or the measures against it) there is no contradiction.

Agree with you, it might be no contradiction.

But before believing for some on this forum that deaths for covid in Japan are overly underreported by tens of thousands (90000 according to that Institute), it should be investigated about all other factors that lead to the decrease as a whole. As it means that tens of thousands of deaths (let's say 90,000 to avoid any double count) due to other drivers have been saved over a 1 year period. That's quite a lot and is difficult to explain in my opinion in such an aging population

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you can’t explain the fall in deaths during a pandemic then?

What part of the explanation was not clear to you? do you think 2020 was a normal year? how about checking the importance of influenza per year?

Scientific responses are valid because they are supported by evidence, even if they don't adjust to a complete misunderstanding of the situation. And specially when deeply life changing measures that have turn life over for a huge lot of people are mischaracterized as "a few changes".

So, what parts of the methodologies of the studies and the assumptions of the model do you think are wrong? on what arguments?

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you can’t explain the fall in deaths during a pandemic then?

This has been explained many times to you but you keep going on with more false information.

Again one of the top causes if death in Japan is influenza/pneumatic.

Last year influenza season was low primarily due to covid and how people were taking higher precautions and limiting contact with other especially the elderly.

So low influenza fewer deaths and this was because the elderly were being extra careful compared to usually and because more got influenza vaccine than usual because of covid.

More false coming soon folks from FFS. Stay tuned.

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Virus and Antiquesaving

Oh, you mean those extra precautions like lockdowns? Oh no, they didn’t have in Japan.

Do you mean the social distancing and stuff that the conspiracy theorists allege doesn’t happen so we will be heading for disaster soon.

Luckily flu numbers were down to about zero, as in almost all nations but Covid was too clever and infected people instead.

Of course lower deaths fly in the face of The Covid Conspiracy Theories they perpetuate to force us to comply to their demands. Yes, there would be lower deaths if people stayed in which a few did but it was a devastating pandemic with tens of thousands of hidden deaths, allegedly.

How could this huge amount of hidden deaths turn into lower deaths? Simple, few less died because of staying in etc I agree with that, and it shows Covid deaths were ridiculously low and it is not as dangerous as alleged.

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Good Post @False: Agreed

-6 ( +6 / -12 )

I wonder if Thursdays testing numbers will change again tomorrow!

The reason for the changes is because so few tests are being done by or through the government.

These numbers depend on hospitals, universities and private clinics providing their results outside the government system.

So when tallying the numbers some data may be left out by error some may be counted twice, some may be updated once the place doing the testing reviews their previous day's results and has a more final tally.

My daughter's friend works in the IT department of one of these private treating labs and they are over worked going 24/7 trying to keep up with demand.

So basically if a test is done at 23:55 it goes into that day's results which will not show up until the next days update.

Test in the private labs are only counted after they have been completed not when the sample was taken from the patient.

I don't know how hospitals, universities or the government count but this is how the lab where her friend works does it.

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Negative Excess Mortality in Pneumonia Death caused by COVID-19 in Japan

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.01.22.21250283v2.full-text

-5 ( +2 / -7 )

Oh, you mean those extra precautions like lockdowns? Oh no, they didn’t have in Japan.

Read the news, talk with people, 2020 was very different from a normal year in Japan for a huge lot of people, and the changes you want to misrepresent as minor had a big effect in normal life for everybody, again, what part of the analysis do you think is wrong and with what arguments? you of course are not pretending to reject a scientific paper just on the opinion of someone that has no knowledge about models, right?

Luckily flu numbers were down to about zero, as in almost all nations but Covid was too clever and infected people instead.

Exactly, which is what proves your "explanations" are wrong. Different pathogens have different abilities to infect and from the beginning COVID-19 was known to have a much higher potential of spreading.

How could this huge amount of hidden deaths turn into lower deaths? Simple, few less died because of staying in etc I agree with that, and it shows Covid deaths were ridiculously low and it is not as dangerous as alleged.

Read the paper already, it explains everything you have problems understanding and why your assumptions can be proved as mistaken. It may be difficult to understand, but the best institutions of the world that have to do with infectious diseases and public health being wrong while you without any knowledge of the topic (nor data to support you) being right is just magical thinking.

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Didou

very interesting read, however plenty of speculation. Also not peer reviewed and as Virusrex will confirm this is just the view of a handful of doctors.

Virusrex

Did not have difficulty reading it, yet with the tens of thousands of hidden deaths alleged by posters here and a small rise in suicides, there should surely have been more deaths in 2020. Also this shows up how wrong the lockdown gang are that want us kept indoors by law. It wasn’t needed, deaths are minute compared to population.

-7 ( +4 / -11 )

Did not have difficulty reading it,

But you can't say why it is wrong? again, what part of their analysis is not valid? what assumptions are wrong? just saying "it must be wrong" only means you could not understand it, your "reasons" are already included in the model.

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Virusrex

im not criticizing their analysis. I think I didnt make myself clear or another post I made was removed. I was referring to Zoroto and others posters claims that the actual death toll from Covid is ten times higher than reported by the government. That this is unproven by facts. I don’t disagree with anything you posted just the numbers alleged by others

sorry for confusion.

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What constitutes a case?

A PCR Test?

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What constitutes a case?

A PCR Test?

Since the purpose is the vigilance of spreading and that can be done according with the number of new infections then yes, cases of infection can be equivalent to PCR tests, which are sensitive and specific to detect it.

im not criticizing their analysis. I think I didnt make myself clear or another post I made was removed. I was referring to Zoroto and others posters claims that the actual death toll from Covid is ten times higher than reported by the government. That this is unproven by facts.

That is the conclusion of the analysis being used as a reference, their model says that for Japan 10,390 deaths have been reported but that 108,320 COVID-19 related deaths have occurred, over 10 times higher.

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What constitutes a case?

A PCR Test?

Yes, so a case does not necessarily represent a sick person.

0 ( +1 / -1 )

Yes, so a case does not necessarily represent a sick person.

Which for measuring the spreading has no importance, a positive PCR test means the person was exposed to the virus, got infected and have the virus replicating in his body to a degree that allows for detection and spreading to other people.

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