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Tokyo reports 91 new cases of coronavirus infections

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Ah Tokyo. Never been there. Meanwhile Osaka endures but I’ll look elsewhere for news of it.

-8 ( +0 / -8 )

Excellent, Numbers down.

-4 ( +6 / -10 )

Only a fraction of those really infected.

6 ( +10 / -4 )

Guess that's not the final count for today. Waiting for more news concerning this.

4 ( +4 / -0 )

How can they say this. They can get results the same day as testing? The tests results coming out today are from 1-2 weeks ago. Aren't they?

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@since1981

How can they say this. They can get results the same day as testing? The tests results coming out today are from 1-2 weeks ago. Aren't they?

The test results take 24-48 hours, so these are results of tests given over the weekend. That's why we see the numbers go down each Monday/Tuesday (few tests done over the weekend). The people who tested positive were likely infected 1-2 weeks ago.

9 ( +10 / -1 )

Hmmm. And how many have recovered? Funny(in the odd sense) that the number of recovered people is never reported, and nothing but raw numbers of presumptive infections are reported. There should be very clear data reported(without names). It's important to be WELL-informed!

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Official numbers here:

https://stopcovid19.metro.tokyo.lg.jp/en/

52 discharged, but of course these are the ones that have been tested and known, there could well be 10X more that have had or have that we don't know.

7 ( +7 / -0 )

Here we go again with the NHK style reporting ....as anyone who has followed the numbers can plainly see the numbers on any given day reflect the tests taken one or two days before due to the lengthy test processing here...hence week after week the numbers announced on Monday / Tuesday reflect tests done on Saturday & Sunday ( when most labs are closed ) ....hence the numbers are always lower on Mondays/ Tuesdays and increase as the week progresses. A quick check of the charts over the last month confirms this.

If numbers were to continue to trend lower all week without decrease in testing we would all have a reason to be optimistic ..I bet the rate will spike from Wednesday onwards though. Wish I was wrong...

8 ( +11 / -3 )

The exponential increase didn't happen, isn't happening and probably won't.

Either before or during a lockdown, it doesn't make a difference, there is no exponential growth rate of infection.

We were told in January that it would be 1,2,4,8, etc.

We'll that means all of Japan would be already been infected by the end of February already.

-5 ( +9 / -14 )

The media really needs to clarify that the numbers announced on Sundays and Mondays are lower because of fewer testing on weekends. This comment section only shows how it confuses the public.

8 ( +9 / -1 )

The exponential increase didn't happen, isn't happening and probably won't.

Can you tell us the average number of test carried out daily, maybe it might help explain why there is no exponential increase.

Maybe that is difficult for you to figure out.

6 ( +8 / -2 )

Watching NHK News, they are speaking to relatives of virus victims. Much to my horror I discover hospitals are still allowing visitors. This contradicts basic rules about managing contagion in hospitals. Bloody hell.

9 ( +11 / -2 )

There is a reason for Japan's low numbers...it could be a TB vaccine, it could be an amazing medical system, a govt. driven directive to contact-trace every single infection or a culture that finds no need to make meaningless cheek-fking a necessity, ....or it could be some other random thing. who knows?

Unless we have a medical system complicit in a massive cover-up, there aren't the massive numbers people are suggesting. I ain't that at maths but the numbers should have exploded ala New York about a month ago.

We will soon find out. Stay tuned!!

-3 ( +4 / -7 )

saturday 191, sunday 166, monday 91

the virus is spreading out at exponential speed!!!!

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Burning BushToday 06:24 pm JST

The exponential increase didn't happen, isn't happening and probably won't.

Either before or during a lockdown, it doesn't make a difference, there is no exponential growth rate of infection.

We were told in January that it would be 1,2,4,8, etc.

We'll that means all of Japan would be already been infected by the end of February already.

EXACTLY

the virus is not arrived on 25 March, 25 March was the first day Olympic Games were postponed

the virus arrived in late January in Japan, if the catastrophic comments should be right at this point we all should be infected. wake up gaijin !!!!

please undervote us to show you clearly don't undestand what "exponential growth rate" means

-8 ( +3 / -11 )

There is a reason for Japan's low numbers...it could be a TB vaccine, it could be an amazing medical system, a govt. driven directive to contact-trace every single infection or a culture that finds no need to make meaningless cheek-fking a necessity, ....or it could be some other random thing. who knows?

Unless we have a medical system complicit in a massive cover-up, there aren't the massive numbers people are suggesting. I ain't that at maths but the numbers should have exploded ala New York about a month ago.

We will soon find out. Stay tuned!!

First, what is the survival rate? I don't see the numbers too often. If it is really low then they might be only testing the most serious cases. Unless we do mass screening then we won't know the true numbers, so doctors can simply diagnosis patients with other illnesses because it isn't life threatening. This will keep the numbers down.

We also need to test for the asymptomatic people because they will continue to put other people's lives at risk.

I do think that Japan as a society is healthier than the US: 1) Smaller and less diverse population. 2) Food culture and lifestyle 3) Socioeconomic gap is not as big. 4) American culture tends to be more hard headed. 5) Medical culture is better in the US, but more people in Japan have access to medical care with National Health Insurance, so preventive medicine is more prevalent.

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Numan......

Why is it that you ask me these questions? I have no answers. I am an idiot.

Are you a medical professional?

-8 ( +1 / -9 )

@cognac,

could you explain what “undervote” means please.

6 ( +6 / -0 )

Where is the exponential number here?

Shouldn't Tokyo have at a minimum a few thousand deaths by now?

-6 ( +3 / -9 )

At the very least, readers should grab a dictionary and have a look at the entry "exponential".

-6 ( +3 / -9 )

It was about a 50/50 split about a week ago, My mind hasn't changed.

Apr. 7 07:43 pm JST Posted in: Abe declares state of emergency until May 6 for Tokyo, 6 prefectures See in context

It is quite clear than 99% of posters think that we should be in lockdown.

can anyone tell me why we aren’t seeing New York style numbers as of yet?

-7 ( +6 / -13 )

-3 ( +5 / -8 )

Numan you are saying that riding a packed train is a healthier lifestyle than driving your car?

-3 ( +1 / -4 )

, so doctors can simply diagnosis patients with other illnesses

No, doctors can't just diagnose patients with other illnesses

-6 ( +1 / -7 )

I ain't that at maths but the numbers should have exploded ala New York about a month ago.

Don't understand how you expect the numbers to explode without massive testing. If you didn't know a single test cannot yield multiple results.

6 ( +7 / -1 )

Some of the reasons for the low numbers should be obvious to everyone by now. What are some measures being proposed to mitigate the spread of the virus? Social distancing, mask wearing, hand washing/ sanitizing; these are all practiced widely here in Japan even before covid19 came.

And with the awareness brought by covid19, flu cases even dropped as a result.

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i@n

No, doctors can't just diagnose patients with other illnesses

Yes, they can!

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) reports that the main symptoms of the illness are fever, coughing, and shortness of breath. Other infected patients have experienced completely different symptoms, like vomiting and loss of taste and smell. Some people’s Covid-19 symptoms overlap with those of other illnesses like influenza, making these infections hard to distinguish without testing.

Therefore, if a person that has mild symptoms or symptomatic can't get a coronavirus test in Japan then Japanese doctor's won't know for sure if it is coronavirus and will simply diagnosis the problem as another illness.

Please prove me wrong!

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@doggar

Numan you are saying that riding a packed train is a healthier lifestyle than driving your car?

Trains are healthier form of transportation than driving in heavy vehicle traffic, but less than walking and riding bicycles.

The US has more drivers that drive more often than in Japan, yet I don't see it having a positive effect on the average US citizens health.

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Numan......

Why is it that you ask me these questions? I have no answers. I am an idiot.

Then why are you asking everyone else questions? Do you think that the other posters have the answers?

Shouldn't Tokyo have at a minimum a few thousand deaths by now?

My point.........

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saturday 191, sunday 166, monday 91

the virus is spreading out at exponential speed!!!!

I rather more worry how many people died from the virus everyday than how many people got infected.

-2 ( +0 / -2 )

Monday's figure showed a decrease in the rate of daily infections from Sunday, when the Tokyo Metropolitan Government reported 166 new cases.

Over the past 6 weeks, figures have always been down on Monday over the country. Less tests done during the weekend. It has always been up from Wednesday

From week to week (Monday to Monday), it is slightly higher in Tokyo, and over the country too.

No decrease yet !

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Numan

Its not proper for me to prove you wrong, you're the one who should substantiate your accusation that doctors simply diagnose the patients with another illness.

Anyway, at least you should ponder on what your accusation's implications are and why would the doctors even contemplate such a thing.

What will they gain by doing that?

More importantly, what could they lose?

-6 ( +0 / -6 )

We don't need massive testing If only to determine if the spread of the disease has exploded. For that we need only look at hospital numbers. If the number of severely ill and deaths have exploded then chances are the number of covid19 cases did.

If there there unnaturally many cases of people dropping dead in their homes we can include those also.

-6 ( +1 / -7 )

And how many didn't they report? No news here when you can't even issue a mandatory stay at home order.

2 ( +2 / -0 )

It doesn’t matter actually how infectious you think the virus is. You have quite a lot of freedom in Japan under the circumstances. It doesn’t hurt to be cautious even if you think it’s innocuous. Do what you need to do but have no regrets and should have and could haves.

“Fauci said, ‘You know, Jake, again, it’s the what would have, what could have. It’s very difficult to go back and say that. I mean, obviously, you could logically say that if you had a process that was ongoing and you started mitigation earlier, you could have saved lives.

Obviously, no one is going to deny that. But what goes into those kinds of decisions is complicated. But you’re right, I mean, obviously, if we had right from the very beginning shut everything down, it may have been a little bit different. But there was a lot of pushback about shutting things down back then.’”

1 ( +1 / -0 )

I don't see a big rise in Coronavirus related deaths...

or is someone cooking the books?

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i@n

Numan

Its not proper for me to prove you wrong, you're the one who should substantiate your accusation that doctors simply diagnose the patients with another illness.

Anyway, at least you should ponder on what your accusation's implications are and why would the doctors even contemplate such a thing.

What will they gain by doing that?

More importantly, what could they lose?

I have proven my point and explained logically why it happens.

Hospitals in Japan refusing to test many who suspect they have COVID-19

https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2020/02/26/national/hospitals-refuse-coronavirus-patients/#.XpR5yFMzZ_Q

A 29-year-old male company employee in Tokyo called the COVID-19 consultation center after developing a fever of 39 degrees on Feb. 12 as well as feeling lethargic and having diarrhea. He had recently been in contact with a person who had traveled to the Chinese city of Wuhan, the epicenter of the outbreak.

The center told him to visit a local hospital because he had not had close contact with the individual with Wuhan travel history. He was then refused by a hospital in Tokyo, but was later able to see a doctor at a hospital that specializes in treating infections.

Like, I said earlier......

Symptoms of infection with the novel coronavirus may be difficult to distinguish from those of other illnesses, and it is said that most cases of infection do not become severe.

“It’s likely that many people have recovered without even realizing they’d been infected,” said an official at a disease control authority in Chiba Prefecture.

@Ian, it is proper for you to provide substantiated evidence if you claiming that I am wrong or doubt me.

Anyway, at least you should ponder on what your accusation's implications are and why would the doctors even contemplate such a thing.

What will they gain by doing that?

More importantly, what could they lose?

Maybe.....

Suggesting one reason so many hospitals have been refusing patients, a Tokyo Metropolitan Government official said, “Medical institutions are probably overreacting,” fearing the risks of in-hospital infection.

“There seems to be confusion among medical staff because the wording of the virus test criteria, ‘up to the doctor’s comprehensive judgment,’ is unclear,” the official added.

Masahiro Kami, a physician and head of the nonprofit Medical Governance Research Institute, said that almost every day he sees patients who are suspected of having the coronavirus but cannot be tested because their symptoms are mild.

5 ( +5 / -0 )

So what was the doctor's diagnosis?

-6 ( +0 / -6 )

So what was the doctor's diagnosis?

Well, when you read the article fully, the first two patients never got tested, but they were told that everything was fine by the doctor despite showing symptoms. The one person that was tested was found to be positive.

Then at the end of the article you have.....

“It’s likely that many people have recovered without even realizing they’d been infected,” said an official at a disease control authority in Chiba Prefecture.

and another person saying....

Masahiro Kami, a physician and head of the nonprofit Medical Governance Research Institute, said that almost every day he sees patients who are suspected of having the coronavirus but cannot be tested because their symptoms are mild.

@i@n, what do you think the doctors told those to patients that were never tested despite showing mild symptoms and valid reasons to be concerned?

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Ian

Some of the reasons for the low numbers should be obvious to everyone by now. What are some measures being proposed to mitigate the spread of the virus? Social distancing, mask wearing, hand washing/ sanitizing; these are all practiced widely here in Japan even before covid19 came.

The same can be said of the S.Koreans yet their number of infections are high. Their numbers are not arousing suspicion because they world knows they have been testing massively and did what Japan is trying to do now allocate the mild cases to special facilities with doctors and nurses.

5 ( +5 / -0 )

Ok I have no idea, what did the doctors tell the patients?

-6 ( +0 / -6 )

Ok I have no idea, what did the doctors tell the patients?

Shogenai!

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drlucifer

We know why the number of infections was high in SK. If that happened here in Japan then Japan probably would have implemented lockdowns earlier

-6 ( +0 / -6 )

We know why the number of infections was high in SK. If that happened here in Japan then Japan probably would have implemented lockdowns earlier.

Why were the numbers high in SK?

3 ( +3 / -0 )

Really? Ok, I thought that was common knowledge

patient 31

-3 ( +1 / -4 )

Really? Ok, I thought that was common knowledge

patient 31

@i@m, does that spike have anything to do with SK testing everyone to help identify all infected individuals and not just the severe cases?

3 ( +3 / -0 )

What do you think lol

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@Cognac

please undervote us to show you clearly don't understand what "exponential growth rate" means

You should perhaps try to educate yourself about exponential growth and virus spread before implying other of not understand it.

Tips : exponential death does not mean that everything falling under : imagine a penny doubling value every days.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/health/2020/03/28/coronavirus-cases-growing-rapidly-exponential-growth/2922091001/

http://revolutionradio.org/2020/03/06/coronavirus-projection-model-death-counts-from-march-6th-through-april-4th-how-we-get-from-13-to-580-aggregate-deaths-in-america/

https://vitals.lifehacker.com/what-is-the-coronaviruss-r0-and-why-does-it-matter-1841264885

https://www.lemonde.fr/les-decodeurs/visuel/2020/04/02/coronavirus-a-quoi-sert-le-confinement_6035266_4355770.html#slide=30 (to continue until 36)

https://www.wired.com/story/how-fast-does-a-virus-spread/

https://www.ea-reperes.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/PredictedFrenchHospitNeeds-EHESP-20200316.pdf

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2001316

...

NB : using the fact to be downvoted as a proof of you are right is a fallacious argument. Same apply the other way round.

@Burningbush

You are still going on about your not understanding ?

We are approaching the 15th of April, what did your math decide regarding the prognosis and potential number of unidentified cases ?

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91 infections!! Wow! I'll feel shook when deaths a la Europe and the U.S. start happening if they do.Till then the daily blow by blow of infections does nothing for me.Beyond convince me, the "media" is in cahoots with Abe to scare people and distract from his scandals by using fear. I mean when thousands have died in a day in several countries,you gonna start packing it over 91 infections? It's working though.

-6 ( +0 / -6 )

Beyond convince me, the "media" is in cahoots with Abe to scare people and distract from his scandals by using fear. I mean when thousands have died in a day in several countries,you gonna start packing it over 91 infections? It's working though.

So out with the olympics conspiracy theory and in with another? Abe bowed to pressure from the healthcare industry, plain and simple.

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cracaphatToday 01:54 am JST

91 infections!! Wow! I'll feel shook when deaths a la Europe and the U.S. start happening if they do.Till then the daily blow by blow of infections does nothing for me.Beyond convince me, the "media" is in cahoots with Abe to scare people and distract from his scandals by using fear. I mean when thousands have died in a day in several countries,you gonna start packing it over 91 infections? It's working though.

Again. these are the official numbers, the true number of infected persons is much higher. In some EU nations the real number is the official number multiplied by 5 to 10. And that will not be different in Japan.

As long as there are no large scale testings done in Japan the official numbers are nothing more than indications if there are new infections or not. As for the death, in many nations people who did not die at hospitals or specific corona care locations (like in Germany or Netherlands) are not taken into the official corona related death numbers. So also that number is much higher. Same counts to some extent also for Spain and Italy.

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How massive are the testing, and how many people are slipping thru the cracks

South Korea had a massive testing process early on, so they determined who actually were infected and thus able to isolate those people early on, instead of the virus being passed around undetected

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