Woman with signal blocked-TV loses appeal contesting her obligation to pay NHK fees

I had some Yo-Yo NHK Collector come around before I was even moved into my apartment.

He rings the OUTside Keypad and mumbled something...I never heard NHK at all. I no sooner open the door he proclaims to be NHK and that I must ¥ PAY ¥ I looked at him said DO YOU SEE A TV ?!

GTHO. Slam....Oh, you have to CALL me if you get a TV " ; Yeah, right, I'll do that.

Those cockroaches came to my house the day I moved in. I told them I don't understand Japanese and as such don't watch any Japanese television. They never came back.

Only in Japan sounds like Extortion to me

Those extortionists will take you to court and it’s game over if if you play the gaijin card

While it doesn’t seem like a huge amount, this fee and the people who come to collect it (often with aggressive methods) have led to fierce opposition to what many consider a great overreach of power by the NHK.

It is. The NHK operates EXACTLY like the Yakuza do. The collectors are no different to Yak enforcers.

I battled these extortionists for years. I even had one joker tell me I had to pay because my car had a DVD player. I tried the gaijin ‘no Japanese’ card and they came back two days later with an English speaker. He didn’t understand the German I learned in high school so that got rid of him.

There is no legislation to make you pay. However, if you live in an apartment block they can cut your digital signal.

The way the NHK tries to extort money from people is completely unethical. This is why I only ever answer the door when I know I've a delivery from Amazon, an order from UberEats or my weekly groceries are coming in. Everyone else gets ignored.

How to deal with NHK.

Open the door with wide open crazy eyes. Tell them it's against your religion to have a TV because evil spirits come out of TVs. Then mumble some gibberish and close the door. They definitely won't come back.

One of the daftest systems I’ve ever heard of. Deliberate public nuisance, that so many people loathe, but hey that’s not gunna stop anyone from continuing the practice now is it?

Just take it out of our taxes if you need the money that badly NHK and solve this ridiculous game once and for all. Sorry, that’s too simple a solution isn’t it.

Some countries even have a mandatory fee regardless whether you own a receiver or not.

Indeed. I think half of Europe has this requirement.

OxycodinToday  07:46 am JST

Only in Japan sounds like Extortion to me

You ever heard of the UK?

I had hurt my back and had to use a cane for several months. I still had the cane for years. I knew it was the NHK guy at the door. Who else comes on a weekday?

I grabbed some sunglasses, the cane and did the Stevie Wonder head shake as I answered the door, speaking in something that made me sound like a Klingon.

The amazing thing was that he bowed when he left to someone he thought was blind...

Come on people, stop taking NHK to court! NHK will always win in the end!

The NHK system is based on the BBC in the UK just they use signal tracking and fines to make you pay.

So ad revenue doesn't pay the bills for NHK like it does for most western TV stations? How about the other TV stations? Do they come around dunning you for money too or just NHK?

"" 24,800 yen per year. While it doesn’t seem like a huge amount""

Say What?

Obviously this article writer is a rich man or Woman!? or not paying the fees.

WA4TGK: " I looked at him said DO YOU SEE A TV ?!"

Doesn't matter. They whined and cried and bribed the government so much that now if you own a cell phone or computer you have to pay.

PBS which is also a public TV in the U.S. is publicly funded and offers 10 times better quality programing and documentaries such as Frontline and so on, with NO annoying dramas. They don't go around collecting they do it by asking people to thank them for the impressive work they do by DONATING.

What the heck is this? Boycott NHK!

While it doesn’t seem like a huge amount,

Maybe not to this writer but others may beg to differ. For many, it is an unused and unwanted "service" that borders on being a serious nuisance.

“So ad revenue doesn't pay the bills for NHK like it does for most western TV stations? How about the other TV stations? Do they come around dunning you for money too or just NHK?”

no add on NHK. Other TV stations live on adds so they collect fee…

I meant other TV stations live on adds so they don’t collect fee

Just ignore the NHK extortion gang and you should be ok I hope

I simply tell them I won't pay. Then they say they don't want to either but it's the rule that you have to pay. So they do, yada yada. I stand my ground and tell them I won't pay because I won't pay. Goes on like that for a few minutes, then they leave pissed, telling themselves (I imagine) "freaking foreigners." I feel so satisfied those days.

If you don’t have a TV, just tell them so. You don’t have to call the bad names. They are just workers like everybody else. Don’t tell lies if you don’t want to pay. One should not lie.

I do watch NHK and some of their contents are good. That’s true for almost every station out there in my opinion. You might not agree with me but I pay for any services I use if that is required.

hattorikun 09:54 am JST

If you don’t have a TV, just tell them so. You don’t have to call the bad names. They are just workers like everybody else. Don’t tell lies if you don’t want to pay. One should not lie.

NHK "fee" collecting is outsourced to dubious temp staff companies who employ sleazy chimpira types to browbeat/intimidate non payers. It's extortion.

Good thing my doorbell has monitor so I can see whose knocking. If I don't expect any delivery or guest, I just ignore whoever is at the door. I notice that they come around weekends too, perhaps they know tenants are home during those days.

Shocking. Somehow block the channel and dont watch it. Dont pay them either.

Time to cut the proverbial cord and go online. Much cheaper to watch Netflix, and wouldn't she rather watch Squid game than those stodgy old nhk news broadcasts

How to deal with NHK.

Open the door with wide open crazy eyes. Tell them it's against your religion to have a TV because evil spirits come out of TVs. Then mumble some gibberish and close the door. They definitely won't come back.

or you could say 電波アレルギーなんです - Im allergic to electromagnetic fields.

there is just no way he can extort you when you cant have a tv or a mobile phone

We pay the NHK annually through our cable service provider so no dealing with the NHK collectors. For non paying viewers, there will be a box in a corner of your screen when you happen to switch to NHK channels telling you to pay to clear the box. As we do watch NHK from time to time so it’s OK for us to pay the fee. What I would watch on NHK would be documentaries, special sports events, Japanese local story series. It’s hard to find a neutral media source these days so I would generally don’t buy any of their views, which many of us here would term them as propaganda depending on whether you are left or right leaning or in the middle of nowhere. Like many these days, we also find some entertainment on YouTube Premium, to avoid adds, Amazon Prime and Netflix. Maybe too much to consume.

If you don’t have a contract, they can’t get you. Don’t ever make a contract if you don’t own or watch TV.

finally rich

Today  10:32 am JST

or you could say 電波アレルギーなんです - Im allergic to electromagnetic fields.

To add to the effect, wrap yourself in a protective foil blanket like Better Call Saul's brother while mumbling jibberish and carrying around a large jar of multicoloured jelly beans

It's very simple, just tell the NHK man to kick rocks when he comes to visit. They can only take you to court if you sign a contract and then refuse to pay; they can't do anything if you never sign a contract to begin with.

If you don’t have a TV, just tell them so. 

That doesn't work. Then they'll ask you if you have a phone, a car with gps or a computer.

It’s the same in many other countries. But it’s getting very interesting when drawing the obviously visible parallel to those corona vaccinations. They similarly force you to get vaccinated and they force you to get showered with state propaganda by all possible means. Don’t get me wrong, I like the (very few of the) neutral news or documentaries and educational TV programs and also I am of course double vaccinated, but I am surely not becoming a friend of those former Iron curtain-like everything pervading propaganda and forcing behavior and the related grey zone semi-illegal methods. I can think very well by myself, what’s good and what’s right, while the states or regimes permanently make errors most of the time. The Iron curtain ones even so many that they are already gone into the history books. Seems to me the rest can’t wait now to follow, ROFL. So I won’t support or pay for totally incapable wrongdoers. But most of all, I am not paying or indirectly contributing for any such neo-liberal and neo-communist propaganda spreading.

not paying NHK

paying for Netflix

Out from the oven, straight into the fire.

Boycott both.

the First Claims Court of the Japanese Supreme Court rejected the appeal

Just to nitpick, there is no such thing as the “First Claims Court” of the Supreme Court. The Supreme Court is divided into 3 Petty Benches of five judges each, and I am guessing what you intended to write was that this was a judgment of the first Petty Bench.

It is nice to live in a country where there is no license fee for TV and no collectors for fees for watching or not watching content from some broadcasters. Any cost is probably included in the TV price and or in our income taxes.

Freedom is pretty nice in all things.

hattorikunToday  09:54 am JST

If you don’t have a TV, just tell them so. You don’t have to call the bad names. They are just workers like everybody else. Don’t tell lies if you don’t want to pay. One should not lie.

They are not workers like everyone else, they are more like the East German Stasi informants, they are your neighbours that are paid part time to inform and harass people.

Believe it or NOT: Tokyo SKYTree IS actually BROADCAST Tower, if you put up (or still have a 40 year old) tv antenna outside you can WATCH TV.

In fact, I am happy to report that MOST Apartment buildings in Japan will HAVE a ROOF TV antenna, even if you don't have cable/pay tv, plug in a coax line to that outlet in the corner, hit SCAN on the tv & watch the channels appear.

So if anyone with a computer or a smartphone is also liable to pay NHK, that means a large part of the earth's population, right? Someone really ought to make this obvious point in court. In that case, only owners of a TV in Japan should be liable, shouldn't they?

I'm not against some state subsidy for NHK - they should just take it out of taxes, and it should be strictly monitored by lawmakers, to control corruption, and they don't get too greedy.

NHK licence fee collectors? Buying a landline connection? TVs? Radios? Faxes? Nengajo? All a bit late 20th century isn't it,Japan?

I just say I don't have any TV. There is no need for us to prove it to them.

When they start asking about other appliances, I just say I don't watch any TV, good-bye, and close the door.

Until you sign (hanko) the contract, they are powerless...

I made the NHK guy fly due to trespassing the property, never sign or fill their paper!!

Only in Japan sounds like Extortion to me

The BBC does the exact same thing, and threatening a criminal record if licence fees are not paid. Their collectors are tiny worms too.

I have a paper already made up for this.

I only speak English with them, and when they try to get me to sign the paper, I tell them to sign mine first which requires them to pay for the private English lesson they just received.

The lesson is "only" 5000yen, but of course I need to charge for registration and administrative fees and such which, unfortunately, brings the total to 25000yen.

Invariably, they say they didn't want it, but I say, well, I provided it already, so you need to pay. It's not really my fault that you had ears capable of receiving my signal.

So far, they have always gotten pissed and left.

I only speak English with them, and when they try to get me to sign the paper, I tell them to sign mine first which requires them to pay for the private English lesson they just received.

r/things that never happened

From what ive seen of Japanese TV, it 90% drivel, I would be inclined not to watch any TV in Japan.

So happy we don't have to deal with those goons.

One of them dared to enter our apartment building once (private residence/illegal) and the first door he went to was our downstairs Japanese neighbor...that dude went OFF on him; was still yelling abuse at him down the street as he scampered away!

And let's get some perspective please:

''24,800 yen per year. While it doesn’t seem like a huge amount,''

That is a HUGE amount for a service people don't want, didn't sign up for and don't use.

Why are you folks wasting time talking to the NHK, even just to tell them to pound sand? Don't even open the door in the first place.

We get an NHK prowling season about twice a year. Sometimes they're pounding on the door three times a day. Couple times they've showed up after 10pm. Then they dissappear, hopefully having rethought their life choices and found employment elsewhere.

Using unethical methods is not wise for a national television.

To those that signed the contract and regret it: You can call them up, and explain you want to void the contract due to you getting rid of your TV and they will. Wish I had known that, since resorted to emptying my bank account for 2 years each month just before the fee was to be withdrawn.

In Japan, once you sign any contract thay involved automatic payments, you seem to have no come back and can't just ask the bank to cancel the AP.

Be careful out their folks!

Spoken to them a few times, just spoke English and muttered no TV. On one occasion after being caught in my garden, he did point at my satellite dish, I shrugged my shoulders and walked away.

My wife let rip once saying why should her husband pay for government propaganda when he is not allowed to vote.... good girl.

Latest trick I saw is they ring my doorbell but do not stand in front of the camera.

Have never paid and, don't intend to. 100% internet content for us

purple_depressed_bacon:

This is why I only ever answer the door when I know I've a delivery from Amazon

Me too, but unfortunately the guy came when I WAS expecting an Amazon delivery, and I opened the door without checking. I was not happy to say the least, because this must have been the 4th or 5th person. Even had to show my phone to get him off my back. I sold my TV years ago. If Japanese channels actually produced decent programs, I might have considered buying a TV, but the quality is atrocious. Internet suffices for me.

From what ive seen of Japanese TV, it 90% drivel, I would be inclined not to watch any TV in Japan.

Nonesense, what a silly thing to say, Japanese TV is a 100% drivel.

How much money does NHK waste on sending people out to beg for subscription fees. If they really want people to pay they should come up with a better system that is fair to everyone.

hattorikunToday  09:59 am JST

I do watch NHK and some of their contents are good. That’s true for almost every station out there in my opinion. You might not agree with me but I pay for any services I use if that is required.

Me too. I don't want to pay for a service I find utterly worthless though, so I don't have a TV.

I have a paper already made up for this.

I only speak English with them, and when they try to get me to sign the paper, I tell them to sign mine first which requires them to pay for the private English lesson they just received.

The lesson is "only" 5000yen, but of course I need to charge for registration and administrative fees and such which, unfortunately, brings the total to 25000yen.

Invariably, they say they didn't want it, but I say, well, I provided it already, so you need to pay. It's not really my fault that you had ears capable of receiving my signal.

So far, they have always gotten pissed and left.

Hell of a story, but hardly believable!

ToraToday  05:53 pm JST

once you sign any contract thay involved automatic payments, you seem to have no come back and can't just ask the bank to cancel the AP.

TRUE!! the bank does not want to cancel payment, I had to close a whole bank account to stop a scam!

This, it seems to me, is an example of where those of us "on the right" and those of us "on the left" can join forces. It's a matter of statism--and the bullying that comes with it.

"Public" broadcasting inevitably becomes complacent and corrupt, spouting the party line. NHK is ideologically inconsistent, but it's still "controlling," being, of course, firmly committed to its own interests. It's quite "slick," like the BBC, like America's NPR and PBS, like the mainstream media in Germany and France. But one is still being fed "a line." My wife and I don't watch NHK anymore--or TV in general for that matter. And that's regrettable, as one winds up watching and listening to news sources that promote what one already wants to believe.

I actually don't have a TV, but they have tried telling me I have a computer, smartphone and car Navi, my computer and phone are foreign imports and have no TV capability, the car is a lease/loan to buy so still in Toyota's name so said try collecting from them.

My ground floor is a business and I have a sign warning any sales people, bill collectors, etc... that are not actual clients are to leave all notices in the mailbox if they enter my property they are subject to a ¥5,000 entrance fee.

I once had NHK and a certain religious group violate the no entry.

I called the police as they refused to pay the entrance fee, the police said I could press charges if they don't pay but asked me to let them leave if they promise never to enter my property again.

I let them go, since then NHK has stuck to putting notices in my mailbox and the religious group has stayed far away.

Proper signage warning of fees or legal action works. Only people that ring my doorbell now are the delivery people or the police on their bi-annual check of who lives in the house and of course actual clients or possible clients.

Poor lady! This is the way I dealt with those thieves a few years back when my house was newly built:

NHK guy: "Konnbanwa NHK bla bla bla ... desukedo"

Me: Holding a huge pipe wrench "Get out of my property if you care for your well-being" (in both English and Japanese)

Never heard of them again, also I got one of those Tachibana stickers. Perhaps the lady in the story should've been more assertive.

She should have hired a gaijin to answer the door and tell the NHK man to go pound sand.

That works quite well and keeps them from coming back. Apparently

24,800 yen per year. While it doesn’t seem like a huge amount

i pay like 900 yen monthly for Netflix and guess which one I watch on a daily basis huh?

IMHO to say that it’s normal because BBC does the same in UK is just as awful. Both fees shouldn’t exist in the first place.

raincloudToday  07:19 pm JST

How much money does NHK waste on sending people out to beg for subscription fees.

I believe it's something like 12% of their annual operating costs.

HenriqueToday  11:06 pm JST

IMHO to say that it’s normal because BBC does the same in UK is just as awful.

You may not care much for BBC programmes but at least they try to appeal to everyone, as they know people will complain to their MPs about having to pay for a service they never use, and then the government will use that as an excuse to slash the license fee when the BBC's charter is next renewed. NHK can churn out whatever bland, formulaic drivel they like and it doesn't matter to the government if no one watches it because NHK is a complaint government mouthpiece run by LDP stooges.

They should just straight have an arrangement with the government to take it from taxes, or subsidy of some sort. Having someone come to your door to try to collect is just wrong.

What NHK SHOULD be doing is cutting service to the households who do not pay the fees, it's that plain and simple. Ever since Japan went digital, NHK has had that capability, just like cable subscribers getting cut off for not paying.

It's the easiest solution, BUT they wont do it, because they want the money.

Someone in the Diet should propose this and make it law, but they wont, because NHK has the requirement to be the emergency broadcaster for the country in cases of disasters, and everyone is supposed to have access.

In reality it's just a technical issue and they could easily turn on the signal with pressing a key on their computer. But they wont either!

I only speak English with them, and when they try to get me to sign the paper, I tell them to sign mine first which requires them to pay for the private English lesson they just received.

The lesson is "only" 5000yen, but of course I need to charge for registration and administrative fees and such which, unfortunately, brings the total to 25000yen.

As much as I hate NHK's tactics, I'd say that your "strategy" is shady at best, probably something like extortion. So when random people in the streets speak to you in English do you charge them for your breath?

Gajins don't stand a chance with this game, so let the Japanese fight their own,  ETORTIONISTS and they will win once they get enough support, just like the war they won against NTT 50,000 yen for a phone number, and the 2 years contract cancellation fees with DoCoMo, and the mobile phone number locking also by DoCoMo, these MAFIA activities slowly but surly will get dismantled as soon as their partners in public offices are out of a job.

In ‘polite’ response to Your @Kentaro 11:36pm comments & question: No one’s ‘proud of animosity’ toward their host country nor “evading” any ‘fair’ taxes. - Have you considered that “Westerners” just don’t want to pay for services that ‘Westerners‘ don’t use, …or want?

*-@Kentarogaijin 11:36pm: “How many expat proud of his animosity, rudeness and belligerence when evading a tax..” *

“If you don't like paying taxes in Japan, why are you still here?..”

“What NHK SHOULD be doing is cutting service to the households who do not pay the fees, it's that plain and simple. Ever since Japan went digital, NHK has had that capability, just like cable subscribers getting cut off for not paying.

It's the easiest solution, BUT they wont do it, because they want the money.

Someone in the Diet should propose this and make it law, but they wont, because NHK has the requirement to be the emergency broadcaster for the country in cases of disasters, and everyone is supposed to have access.

In reality it's just a technical issue and they could easily turn on the signal with pressing a key on their computer. But they wont either!”

yubaru- that’s true. NHK knows which viewers sometimes sneak peak at one of their channels without paying so of course their collectors would try to collect if they can, which can be annoying to some of the folks here…

Does NHK pay for services it doesn’t want?

Obviously, it doesn’t.

'I don't have a TV, or anything that can receive NHK.' Then close the door. If you even open the door to them in the first place.

I guess if somehow they see or get in, you could go 'Oh that can receive NHK? Well...' Hand them the TV then report them for theft.

Please pray for me :

My wife makes me pay 50 euros (6500 yen) per month, to watch that Japanese channel.

NHK (in fact Japanese government) is so stubborn as to prevent the channel from being broadcasted easily (fair rpice) abroad thinking they should not share with foreigners their views.

They don't wish to make it a fair system like BBC

So who can pay that amount ? Japanese expatriates mainly.

What a ludicrous system.

hattorikunToday  12:10 pm JST

“What NHK SHOULD be doing is cutting service to the households who do not pay the fees, it's that plain and simple. Ever since Japan went digital, NHK has had that capability, just like cable subscribers getting cut off for not paying.

It's the easiest solution, BUT they wont do it, because they want the money.

They certainly wouldn't make very much if they started doing that. I mean, how many people would actually pay to keep receiving NHK programmes if they didn't have to? What do they have on that's worth paying Y2,000 a month for? I can't imagine whatever decent stuff they show costing subscribers much more than a couple of hundred yen to produce.

Tell them Yamamura Sadako came out of your TV, and you've since encased it in concrete.

I think it is Americans who mostly get upset about the NHK fee. In Europe and UK this is normal for us! I just paid it when they showed up. I can't be bothered to hide from the NHK man and deal with all the stress every time the doorbell goes.

They do provide the news in English and Sumo in English and some other shows too. So for me I'm ok with it.

There a NHK station on YouTube for free. I use Apple TV no fees

There a NHK station on YouTube for free. I use Apple TV no fees

If you are here in Japan, according to the court too, if you have any device that is capable of picking up a TV signal, as in all smart phones, i-phones included, you are by law, supposed to pay the fee.

They havent gotten around too much on collecting those yet.

One thing that has always bothered me.

How do they know so quickly when you moved in to a new place? Who sold/told them. For a place with so called privacy laws in place this is disconcerting. Anybody knows?

“One thing that has always bothered me. 

How do they know so quickly when you moved in to a new place? Who sold/told them. For a place with so called privacy laws in place this is disconcerting. Anybody knows?”

that’s a result of digitalization. For NHK, if you watch one of their channels without paying, based on the signal they know and there will be a small window appearing at a corner of your TV screen when you are watching NHK. The window shows instruction for you to pay if you wish. Once paid, it will go away immediately . I know someone who didn’t pay and has been watching NHK with that window on.

“If you are here in Japan, according to the court too, if you have any device that is capable of picking up a TV signal, as in all smart phones, i-phones included, you are by law, supposed to pay the fee.”

you can watch a lot of NHK contents for free on the web, embedded TV app and in the car. I pay for NHK within our cable package but that is only for their NHK sogo, BS and 4K channels on my TV in the living room. I don’t think they are after you for what you see in the car, or mobile devices.

@Simon Foston

”They certainly wouldn't make very much if they started doing that. I mean, how many people would actually pay to keep receiving NHK programmes if they didn't have to? What do they have on that's worth paying Y2,000 a month for? I can't imagine whatever decent stuff they show costing subscribers much more than a couple of hundred yen to produce.”

you quoted what I didn’t say but that’s OK. To be fair, It’s tough to create contents to satisfy all tastes. I don’t like all the things I watch on NHK, which is now the only channel we have here of course. NHK provides local news, disaster related alerts, coverage which can be essential for us here… some of their regular shows are good too such as kazoku no kanpai or sara meshi… which are more relevant for local viewers than international viewers. Some of their documentaries and sport coverages are good and as they don’t have ads, if you like a particular content, you can enjoy it uninterrupted. So I guess if I choose to watch those I will pay. Whether it just costs a few hundred yen to make I doubt it.

I my previous comment I meant NHK is NOT the only channel we have here. Sorry for the typo.

@hattorikun it's not even that, they show up even when you haven't finished unpacking yet and I didn't even have a TV at the time! Someone shares a list with them. Either the realtor or the City Hall when you register your Jyuuminhyo or something..

Asking for someone to pay for over TV signal, would start a rebellion in the US, they make cable and satellite provider too pay a fee

I ran into these guys a few times, they got real pushy with me once and I told them to never come back or they won’t be happy. They kept insisting that I have a TV pointing to my cables, I told them I don’t use my TV, it’s been broken for years and I just listen to the radio, one of the guys asked if he could come inside my house and check and once he say my face reaction he backed off on that one. I have never paid that stupid fee in 22 years and I’m not about to start. These people are just the absolute worst. I wouldn’t pay them a single yen. Thankfully it’s been 4 years since I last saw one of these idiots.

"Only in Japan sounds like Extortion to me"

No, happens in the UK, The BBC were the pioneers...then they patronisingly rub it in peoples faces with adverts that champion "the special way we are funded".....yeah by extortion and gangsterism.

Do one.

People who are saying "just use Netflix or Prime etc" are missing the point..........legally you are STILL obliged to pay for NHK. If you have a TV, a PC or a smartphone, then you are meant to pay, regardless of whether you watch JTV or not. iPhones are exempt because of the type of signal they receive.....BUT I'm sure they are trying to close that loophole.

I'll bet most of the pro-BBC peeps here are from England.......the BBC is the propaganda wing of the Westminster government, it always has been. The Conservatives have filled the board with it's chums and they are one and the same. MPs don't listen to complaining constituents about more serious policies like education spending, hospitals or even road repairs.....they aren't going to listen to complaints about the BBC.

I especially loved this comment "at least the BBC appeals to everyone".....no it bloody doesn't!! LLF

I have my wife trained now to tell them to jog on, she does a better job than I do tbf.....but if I do happen to open the door to them, I give them a big smile and declare most confidently.....すみません日本語食べない！ Watch the confused look on their faces, give them a bow and close the door. works a charm.

Been in the UK and get letters from the BBC telling me that I haven’t contacted them and to expect a visit-they’ll be visiting but as I am in Japan this week nobody is at home…

Bobby Testicles Dec. 11  04:25 pm JST

r/things that never happened

Two for two in Kansai.

My wife kicked them several times, they are not coming anymore. No need of NHK goverment propaganda (remember guy opposite of constitution changes to make war on Shinjuku bridge burning himself, zero news on NHK).

I dont have antenna and I m happy with netflix, youtube etc...and as many people said, mental health is much better without genokai, advertisement every 10mn etc.