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At the same time, “more Americans, especially young Americans, think it is important to have strong economic ties with China than believe it is important to have such ties with Japan,” it said.

This is the most interesting fact, that could lead to some meaningful changes in the future in the relations between these three countries.

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As usual JT will omit and prefer to put China in bad light., according to western media.

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In my opinion, the US wishes stronger bonds with China , despite the apparent anti-China propaganda, because they know they are not able to stop her growth. So, it's better being her preferential partner.

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However, for Brand Abe, the news was not so good: “Only 11% of Americans have a favorable view of current Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe.” “But this can largely be attributed to the fact that 73% say they have never heard of him,” it said.

Strange, Reuters/AFP using Abe as an idol in all their news reporting !

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Rightly so. China is a disgusting dictatorship and has no plans to change... ever.

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When it comes to the perceived quality of trade, however, Americans favor Japan. According to the survey, 55 percent of Americans believe that Japan has a “fair” trade policy with the U.S. while only 37 percent think the same of China. Here again, however, younger Americans and non-whites are both more likely to think China is a fair trader, with 52 percent of both groups calling China’s trade policy fair.

However, it’s worth noting that not too long ago, when Japan was seen as the major economic competitor to the U.S., attitudes were far different. In 1989, only 22 percent of Americans called Japan a fair trader, meaning Japan had an even worse reputation in the U.S. than China does today. But today those old grievances hardly factor into the equation. Only 8 percent of Americans consider the “trade wars” of the 1980s and 1990s the most important event in U.S.-Japan relations. In other words, perceptions of economic “fairness” and competition can change rapidly – 20 years from now, Americans might have forgotten about the economic competition that currently exists with China.

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Let's see, Chinese hackers are a problem for both Japan and USA. China supported N. Korea. China is excessivly arrogant in the S China sea. China is an oppressive nation. China invaded and absorbed fringe regions now part of China.

Japan in 1945 was the devil! Japan in 1946 did a 180 degree swing. 2015 Japan shows no aggression to any nation. Can China make that claim?

Atomic bombing of Japan was to save lives and end the war fast. Was it right? I would say it saved lives even though ALL the lives lost were innocent. In 1945 after VE Day seeking VJ Day sooner than later was on the minds of most of the world.

I would hope lesson learned but obviously not, we humans have more nuclear destructive capability to destroy planet earth!

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The more serious problem for U.S.-China relations is a lack of overall trust. Only 30 percent of Americans say they have a “great deal” or a “fair amount” of trust in China, while a full 25 percent of Americans do not trust China “at all.” Yet if we look only at Americans in the 18-29 age group, the percentage of people who say they trust China climbs to 49 percent (compared to a mere 21 percent of Americans aged 65 or over).

These trust issues have made Americans more supportive of closer ties between the U.S. and Japan. Sixty percent of those surveyed said that China’s military and economic rise makes U.S.-Japan relations “more important.” However, that doesn’t automatically translate to support for Japan’s defense reforms. Americans were fairly evenly split on whether Japan should play a more active military role to help “maintain peace and stability in regional affairs.” Forty-seven percent of Americans agreed, while 43 percent said Japan should actually “limit its military role.” Meanwhile, 68 percent of Japanese want Japan to limit its military role in the region, with just 23 percent favoring a more robust military posture. Both those numbers should be reassuring to China, which decidedly does not want Japan to play a more active military role.

Finally, some more comfort for Beijing – despite seemingly endless media coverage, a full 39 percent of Americans say they have heard “nothing at all” about territorial disputes between China and its neighbors. Forty-four percent said they know “a little” about the disputes, with only 16 percent of Americans saying they have heard “a lot” about them. Compare that to the North Korean nuclear issues, where 39 percent of Americans said they had heard a lot and another 42 percent had heard a little.

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Are the views of young people (18-29) a pre-cursor to the views of the nation in the future, or rather a reflection of youth itself? e.g. will that same 18-29 year old change their views as they age, or will they bring that perspective with them as they get older?

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On questions of history, the atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, which killed 140,000 people and 70,000, respectively, has long divided Americans and Japanese.

In the latest survey, 56% of Americans say they believe the use of nuclear weapons was a justified means of ending the war; 34% said it was not.

In Japan, only 14% say the bombing was justified, versus 79% who say it was not.

I believe it was absolutely necessary. War itself is probably not as offensive as the deception employed just before Japan attacked Pearl Harbor.

With no clear end to the hostilities on the horizon of WWII the use of the atomic bombs were necessary. Any firefighter will tell you that you can fight fire with fire. American lives matter! It was not economical to attempt a ground invasion of Japan. The fuel, time and resources would have cost too much.

Even those who capitalize off of war would tell you that the Atomic bomb was the most efficient and cost effective way to end the war. It ended the blight in the Pacific and in Europe.

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Easy fix; overthrow the dictatorship and turn mainland China toward democracy. Problem solved.

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Even those who capitalize off of war would tell you that the Atomic bomb was the most efficient and cost effective way to end the war. It ended the blight in the Pacific and in Europe.

And it started the nuclear nightmare of cold war that isn't over yet. So, I absolutely disagree with you.

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The Pew Research Center just released the results of a survey on U.S. and Japanese public opinion, particularly how those two countries view each other. My colleague Ankit has already covered the main takeaways from the survey for U.S.-Japan relations; however, the survey also contains interesting tidbits about perceptions of China in the U.S.

First, when asked whether it is “more important for the U.S. to have strong economic ties with” Japan or China, a plurality of Americans (43 percent) chose China, with 36 percent choosing Japan. Interestingly, however, the number of Americans prioritizing strong economic ties with China was substantially higher among young people and minorities. Among the 18-29 year-old demographic, 61 percent of Americans favored economic ties with China, compared to only 28 percent among people 65 or over. Meanwhile, 52 percent of non-whites chose China over Japan, compared to 38 percent of whites. Considering that today’s young people are tomorrow’s policymakers – and that whites are expected to be a minority in the U.S. in 30 years – those discrepancies are worth noting.

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China is a mess. It can only go down hill from here. Japan is steady and sure and a rock.

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I don't know, are any of the results that surprising?

Check this Pew Global Poll from July of 2014: http://www.pewglobal.org/2014/07/14/chapter-2-chinas-image/

Favorable View of China:

UK 47%

Spain 39%

Germany 28%

Italy 26%

Russia 64%

South Korea 56%

Brazil 44%

Kenya 74%

And when you look at it by age, every country, those in their 20s have a 10% more favorable view of China.

But on the flip side, every developed nation has a negative view of America, only the poorer nations of Africa and Asia have a positive view of America.

http://www.globescan.com/news_archives/bbc06-3/

China holds similar views of Japan and the US. Nothing surprising.

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@MarkG:Atomic bombing of Japan was to save lives and end the war fast. Was it right? I would say it saved lives even though ALL the lives lost were innocent.

@JWithers: In the latest survey, 56% of Americans say they believe the use of nuclear weapons was a justified means of ending the war; 34% said it was not. In Japan, only 14% say the bombing was justified, versus 79% who say it was not. I believe it was absolutely necessary.

Really? I understand where you come from but for many people who were not born and/or raised in the USA that logic is just what it is: hypocrisy.

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U.S., Japan trust each other but both wary of China: poll

US trusts nobody. It has tapped all of its allies, remember?

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I see tons of Americans who still bash Japan for Pearl Harbor, and they are apparently still harboring negative feelings towards it also because of strong Japanese economic competition during the 80s. Indeed, you can see how happy they are when they see a gloomy economic outlook for the country. I doubt this poll is a mirror of reality. Japanese people could actually like the US a lot, because of...Frozen and stuff like this. =_= Except for Okinawa's people.

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on the flip side, every developed nation has a negative view of America, only the poorer nations of Africa and Asia have a positive view of America.

I guess that depends on the survey. This one seems to indicate the opposite:

Overall, global attitudes toward America are positive. In 28 of 38 nations, half or more of those surveyed express a favorable opinion of the U.S.

Europeans generally give the U.S. high ratings, especially in Italy, where 76% now have a positive view of America, up from 74% last year and 53% in 2007. Greece is the only European country polled where fewer than half offer a positive assessment of the U.S.

Source: http://www.pewglobal.org/2013/07/18/chapter-1-attitudes-toward-the-united-states/

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We need a clearer view of China's defense planning and priorities, its military doctrine and training and its calculations about U.S. military strength.

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They should have asked people who are knowledgeable in these areas. Most Americans have no clue about international economics and are not well informed on these issues. What a silly question. Of course they`ll sided with Japan. Americans are constantly bombarded with negativity about China and led to believe Japan does no wrong. Seems like this story is on JT just to toot Japans horn.

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Europeans generally give the U.S. high ratings, especially in Italy, where 76% now have a positive view of America, up from 74% last year and 53% in 2007.

This is fun and weird...I don't think it's true.

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Meanwhile, 52 percent of non-whites chose China over Japan, compared to 38 percent of whites

What's with the discrepancy between whites and non-whites on this issue? Both Japan and China are NE Asian countries, so it's not like it's an issue that should divide people based on race. Only thing I can think of is contrarianism.

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I am trying to think of what China lied about or reneged on recently that directly concerns America or Japan. I can't come up with anything. I cannot come up with China forcing anything on the two or ripping them off. The worst is probably the Chinese Navy not respecting EEZ while still respecting territorial waters around the Senkakus.

On the other hand, the list of America alone pushing, lying, jipping and antagonizing is a mile long. American abroad now have to submit their social security number to open a bank account. That was a result of FACTA which America forced down her allies throats sideways. There is the continued "occupation in all but name" situation going in Okinawa. There was an American report just yesterday lying and claiming that North Korea could miniaturize a nuclear warhead. There was American poor initial response to the U.S.S. Greenville/ Ehime maru collision. The unequal terms of SOFA and its effect on rape cases by U.S. soldiers. America antagonize China with spy flights just outside of Chinese territory and antagonizing North Korea with naval drills just outside North Korean territory. The list goes on and on.

The only answer is ignorance combined with propaganda to get these results.

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I can justimagine the questionnaire: "1. How much do you love us (Japan)? 1 - 10. (2) How much do you distrust China? 1 - 10. Please tell us what you love most about Japan"

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In the latest survey, 56% of Americans say they believe the use of nuclear weapons was a justified means of ending the war; 34% said it was not.

Is there anyone who can justify using inhumane mass destructive weapons to end the ongoing war of the world's threats against ISIS? If using atomic bombs is the most effective way to end conflicts, why does the UN use them to solve them and get back peace?

The U.S. experimented the effects of the atomic bombs by dropping two types of atomic bombs into two cities targeting citizens, which was absolutely against the international rule. One of the reasons of the current good relationship owed to the education of war-guilty-information imposed by the US that wanted to elude questioning by justifying the dropping.

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Is there anyone who can justify using inhumane mass destructive weapons to end the ongoing war of the world's threats against ISIS?

War against ISIS isn't Total War. The alternative to dropping nukes isn't sending hundreds of thousands of Americans to their deaths. Any other false dichotomies you want to bring up?

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China has so far often enough shown that it cannot be trusted in many ways. Of course the exploitive business world will bashingly disagree because the money is in China (for the moment). Let's wait what those young non-white Americans say when China's golden business age runs dry. China isn't doing anything about human rights but a lot about military expansion.

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In contrast to the oft-heard calls from Beijing for more Japanese contrition over World War II, around two-thirds of Americans believe Tokyo has apologised enough or has no need to say sorry.

Well that explains where all the Japan apologists are coming from: Americans need to comprehend this very simple fact. It doesn't matter how many times you apologise - if you go around denying it then apologies are useless

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China has so far often enough shown that it cannot be trusted in many ways.

@CGB Spender Name five. Should be simple enough.

if you go around denying it then apologies are useless @Christopher Glen Bingo. The problem is that Americans are not concerned or knowledgeable about the atrocities committed in Asia that Japanese nationalist politicians are denying.

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USA Today reported the results very differently.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2015/04/07/japan-us-relations-survey/25351323/

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@FrancescoB

The worst is probably the Chinese Navy not respecting EEZ while still respecting territorial waters around the Senkakus.

You give the main reason in your own words. And China doesn't respect the territorial waters, either. Oh and let's not forget the absolutely atrocious behavior in the South China Sea and in the UN. China would be a poor backwater if it didn't have lots of its own people to use as slave labor for international companies.

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And China doesn't respect the territorial waters, either.

Give us a date when China (as in the country, government, coast guard or military, and not just a fishing vessel) violated Japanese territorial waters. EEZ is not territorial waters.

As you go on that fruitless search, you may find out that the largest incident around the Senkakus was with Taiwan in 2012 when 75 fishing vessels were escorted by 10 Taiwanese Coast Guard vessels into the area.

Oh yeah. Taiwan. Don't want to talk about that cause it ruins the "evil China" narrative.

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U.S. Vets who lived through the war have gotten over blaming Japan. They know the differences between the Japanese people of WWII, and its leadership at the time.

Plus, Japan has really progressed in the post-1946 WWII era and in the post-1980's unfair trade war era. They are now a responsible actor on the world scene. They still need to improve in a lot of areas (e.g., incarceration without charges, forced confessions, xenophobia, etc.), but they are not now known for military aggression.

Trade is still unbalanced between the U.S. and Japan, but it isn't totally because of government policies. (rice and beef are exceptions... basically, government based smear campaigns against free trade of U.S. rice and beef, resistance to the TPP). Japanese rice is better than all other rice??? I understand the need not to lose domestic rice production capacity, but the Japanese PR campaign against U.S. rice is just too much to believe . . . and swallow.

The Chinese government on the other hand has clearly been a bully internationally and domestically, and people around the world know it. The poling reflects this general opinion.

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@Illyas Don't you know some leaders in the world call the fight against terrorism as "the Third World War"? The world war isn't like the one in the past like country-vs-country battles any more.

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The problem is that Americans are not concerned or knowledgeable about the atrocities committed in Asia that Japanese nationalist politicians are denying.

So you have two countries that are ignorant about history? Sounds like a cozy partnership to me. Meanwhile China is very much aware of history

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@FrancescoB

According to the records by the Japan Coast Gurad and just speaking of the year of 2014, Chinese patrol ships violated Japanese waters 6 times in Jan. 9 times in Feb, 6 times in Mar, 8 times in Apr, 5 times in May, 6 times in Jun, 4 times in July, 10 times in Aug, 10 times in Sep, 9 times in Oct, 8 times in Nov., and there was no violation reported until July in 2011.

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People are going to love my view on this...

You know, when you think about it the attack on Pearl Harbour was good for Europe - it woke America up to the fact that people were dying at the hands of the Nazi war machine. By late 1941 much of Europe had fallen, the BEF had been pushed back to the UK. Although the RAF saved us from German invasion (Operation Sealion) our cities were blasted to pieces in the summer of 1940: the Blitz. Meanwhile Europe was gradually crushed under the jackboots of the Germans, with the Jews being sent to Eastern Europe for slave labour or extermination.

Yes the Americans supplied munitions and lend lease kit, etc, but it wasn't until June 1941 that they deployed combat troops, ships and Catalina flying boats to Iceland... and US forced stayed until 2006. After Pearl Harbour they entered the war properly, charging over the hill like the US Cavalry 'to save the day'... albeit late.

Thank you Japan... you helped to shorten the war in Europe.

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@CG: So you have two countries that are ignorant about history? Sounds like a cozy partnership to me. Meanwhile China is very much aware of history

Or rather, dead set on promoting its own version of it.

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Or rather, dead set on promoting its own version of it.

Well, the fact of WW2 are these: China was invaded by Japan. First through Manchuria in 1931 (whereby Japan set up Unit 731) and later in 1937. 15 million Chinese died fighting Japan by 1945. If that is the version China is teaching its kids then it's the correct one

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Japan is the only ally who refused to join AIIB as US requested.

Done! :)

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@FrancescoB

Tibet, Taiwan, Tianmen Square, Imprisonment of supporters of democracy and freedom-of-speech, Crackdown on religious minorities in West China, Claiming maritime areas in SE Asia that don't belong to them and bullying the Philippines and Vietnam, Claiming islets that historically belong to Japan and bullying Japan with intrusion in their sea- and air space, Aggressive expansion of their military

That are eight but I'm sure I can find more for you.

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Six in 10 Americans believe that the rise of China as a military and economic power makes relations

Nine in 10 Americans have not realized that Apple Inc has prospered, successful and become the global darling with manufacturing IPHONE, IPOD, IPAD and later on IWATCH with China. China is the money machine for USA innovators and entrepreneurs. They trust China more than their own parents.

As far as major leading and successful US co-operations Apple, Microsoft, Google and Walmart love and trust China, Sun will still rise from the east. Consumers will enjoy the shopping paradise.

Consumers from world wide are waiting eagerly for buying new products of Made in China with USA design. As far as the new products are cheap and good, they will not lose any sleep for Americans mistrust over China.

Without China manufacturing prowess and incredible USA designing genius for cool products, that earth will be so boring to live on.

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I am probably going to get my first negative with this but will try to show my reasoning behind it.

The problem with these type of polls. Is that they can't really be trusted much. The Japanese are never going to give their true feelings in such public opinion surveys.

Americans on the other hand tend to be a bit naive of really everyone. Knowing as much about Japan as Japan knows about them. Both countries are really not all that in touch with the world around them. At least in terms of understanding other cultures. Which might help explain why both get along somewhat.

Japan, US relations have always been complicated to say the least. It's a love hate relationship which I won't pretend to understand.

I don't believe either side really trusts each other all that much. However I do believe we both have a common enemy in China. Which is really what keeps this alliance intact. All one has to do is look at the lopsided trade imbalance however. To give some idea of the walls which still exist. After the war Japan quickly went through a lot of changes concerning modernization.

This happened starting with the US quickly intervening with Japan internally.

Surprisingly enough, American demilitarization and democratization was somewhat accepted by the people of Japan without strong resistance.

Under the occupation of the US SCAP program (Supreme Commander For the Allied Powers). Which was an institution in charge of formulating policies. However SCAP could not have functioned without the assistance of the Japanese government. Due to the language barrier among other things.

However this did actually help make bigger changes in creating demilitarization and democratization within Japan. SCAP helped people to gain freedoms of speech, press and the right to organize labor or farmer Unions. Within the context of the agreement it also gave the right to organize labor association and movements.

Nevertheless, the government also held an important role in modernizing Japan.

Japan concentrated on their industry and technology to achieve growth. For that the state gave assistance to several industries and adopted protectionism policies.

They then stepped in as a lender, as facilitator of access to foreign exchange, raw materials, or technology licenses. As well as stepping in when problems arise.

To help illustrate this somewhat. The most important yet somewhat flawed agency was MITI or (Ministry Of International Trade and Industry).

During the 1960's the Japanese government used economic policies. Such as tariffs to obstruct imports and protect Japanese firms from foreign competitors. Within the domestic market to become a modernized country.

In closing this is the one pitfalls however which might be the reason in part. Why the US, Japan trade agreement is so one sided over China. Had this policy never been put in place by the Japanese government. Then maybe China would not have the economic clout it has now. Holding both the US & Japan's feet over the fire.

It's an interesting observation but it also brings into question now. How do we move forward from here? I suppose whether we like it or not.

The Japan US alliance with all it's problems and unbalanced agreements. Is one based not so much on trust and understanding of one another.

But one of survival in the face of a truly global threat in China. Which is at the cornerstone of US foreign policy in Asia and indeed the world. Just my two cents for what it's worth. :)

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@Nathaw > Nine in 10 Americans have not realized that Apple Inc has prospered, successful and become the global darling with manufacturing IPHONE, IPOD, IPAD and later on IWATCH with China. China is the money machine for USA innovators and entrepreneurs. They trust China more than their own parents.

How do you know? Have you asked them or is this just a guess? It seems to be more realistic to say that they don't care where their iPhone is manufactured. It's not like the brand is "China". But many young people become conscious about the threat that a too powerful China would be for the world.

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Two thirds of Americans are totally ignorant of the issues and hold rose colored glasses views of romanticized Japan they see on TV. Majority of Americans don't even know who Abe is, nor who the Prime Minister of Japan is. If Japanese were seen on American TV daily marching against Jewish people and show anti-semetic hatred, rather then marching against Koreans, they would have much more interest in what's going on in Japan with the sharp shift to the right, and probably would have far less favorable view of Japan.

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US people do not watch news. They do not know who Abe is, but do they know who Xi is? I doubt it. But I bet they have all heard of Pikachu and Naruto! Abe has his work cut out for him.

Also about atom bombs, the problem is none of the direct participants said it had any effect. Eisenhower, Nimitz, etc.

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Six in 10 Americans believe that the rise of China as a military and economic power makes relations between Japan and the United States more important, it said.

and how many people did they survey here?

They should include the number of people in America that don't know or could care less about Japan's relationship with China and/or China's growing power.

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Most Americans have no clue about international economics and are not well informed on these issues.

Or geography, for that matter. I have many friends, and a few relatives living in the US. Most of them think I'm living in Hong Kong! Or even Singapore (which is apparently the capital of Tokyo, China).

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Tessa I bet you are on earth right!

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A majority of Americans see Japan as a status quo economic power, neither rising nor declining.

Hoho, I wish I and the rest of Japan could share their optimism.

Most of them think I'm living in Hong Kong!

As a former resident of HK, I can tell you that's a compliment and a much finer accomplishment than living in the 23 wards.

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@Tessa Apr. 09, 2015 - 09:15PM JST

While it's true some Americans don't have much information regarding Western Pacific and Asia, I also found during my stay in US that many other American young men and women were very well informed.Many of them spend a few years in the military and stationed abroad, in many case lived in Japan or spent time in Japan. and I think US military is doing quite a good job in educating their people not only as good soldiers but also good military diplomats who have good understanding of their host country, it's political system, culture and history.

I now meet with some young Americans from US Navy Sasebo, Very polite people with lots of curiosity. When they go back to America they will go to college or business with their experience in Japan. That's a good thing.

Also I think the strongest band among the ties between US and Japan is in the Military. US forces and Japan's SDF training and working together, evaluating each other, that's where mutual understanding is developing in the best way.

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Even though they can't drive, they all have great auto insurance. + lots of $ to throw around CA/US economy. Yeah, the US trusts China. So the saying goes- " the business of america is business."

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I'm not talking about the American people but US govt especially Obama administration, which kept criticizing Japan and hurting many Japanese people feelings. Sofa is unfair treatment, and Japan's burden of US military is too big to bear. How can Japan trust US now?

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True that, Tina. The status of forces agreement deprives Japan of it's sovereignty. But what other real alternatives could Japanese "trust" ?

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“But this can largely be attributed to the fact that 73% say they have never heard of him,” it said.

And this basically makes the whole survey random and worthless.

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That are eight but I'm sure I can find more for you.

@CGB Spender I asked you why China cannot be trusted. You gave me a list of not so nice things China has done. Its not quite the same. But lets look at what you said anyway.

Tibet. Yeah, China sucks for that. But that was 1950. Just five years earlier, the Japanese were finally defeated after a rampage across Asia. If we cannot trust China because of what happened in 1950, surely we cannot trust Japan for the two decades up to 1945, which was 100 times worse than invading Tibet easy. Taiwan, Tianammen Square, political prisoners and crackdowns on Uighurs are internal matters that have little to do with trust of outsiders. I am no fan of crushers of dissent, but Taiwan?? Come on dude! Taiwan is the result of a civil war for crying out loud! You can't be all down on China for shooting at enemies who shoot at them too! What next? I doubt you would apply that logic to the Confederacy or South Vietnam!

bullying the Philippines and Vietnam,

The Vietnamese are bullies! You should look up their history! I know less about the situation with the Philippines, but I know they have not laid down.

Claiming islets that historically belong to Japan

Baloney. Japan has less historical claim than China does and China does not have much.

bullying Japan with intrusion in their sea- and air space

So I have read, but I cannot find any actual distances from land, so I have doubts about that. Journalists are not going to apologize for swapping the definition of EEZ for territorial waters. They and politicians do that stuff on purpose.

Aggressive expansion of their military

Compared to the United States, what China has done amounts to getting up to take a pee. Look up America's spy flights. And then think about who is hosting America to conduct those spy flights. Are the Chinese conducting spy flights off the California coast? Do they have bases in Mexico? No. But America would have a hissy fit if they did. Meanwhile, China is just supposed to wave and say hi. And with that, I have had about as much hypocrisy as I can stomach for one day.

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Lots of people badmouthing education in the US. Yeah there are some stupid hicks in the flyover land, what of it? Your average Taro doesn't understand why he needed a smack down 70 years ago, and worse doesn't realize the size of the Chinese threat today. The idiot youth of the US, on the other hand will come around real fast when the Reds start terrorizing countries of importance. All the trade in the world won't matter then.

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Now looks like Koreans in US have been lobbying and prepare to attack Japanese Prim Minister Abe on his visit to US on 29th April, making a speech at congress and Harvard Univ.

http://us.kace.org/2015/meeting-with-congressman-steve-israel-regarding-shinzo-abes-address-to-us-joint-session/

Accordig to Korean news below, one of Korean protesters says," he won't know what accident might happen unless Abe shows convincing remose and aplogy".

ある市民団体関係者は「象徴的なハルモニ1人を韓国から迎えて傍聴席で安倍総理の演説を見守るようにする計画」とし、「安倍総理が納得できる反省と謝罪をしなければ議事堂の中でどんな突発状況が起きるか分からない」と話した。

I take that as a Terror notice or threat, which cannot be torelated. Mr Abe has been loyal to US by not joining AIIB taking a risk together. This was because of American's request and its interest. Congressman Steve Israel, I don't know how much he got money from Koreans, but I sure hope he knows what he is doing.

Original Korean news <http://news.donga.com/3/02/20150407/70572114/1

Japanese translation http://www.honmotakeshi.com/archives/44172507.html

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Right scipanthiest. Taro knows nada about the real world.

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Alex80Apr. 09, 2015 - 08:57AM JST

I see tons of Americans who still bash Japan for Pearl Harbor, and they are apparently still harboring negative feelings towards it also because of strong Japanese economic competition during the 80s...

...I doubt this poll is a mirror of reality

That doesn't mean the poll is inaccurate because "A total of 61% of Americans say either Japan has apologised sufficiently for the war or no apology is now necessary"....that means that up to 39% or 390 people out of a thousand believe Japan still owes an apology (or some may have no opinion?). I would say 390 people is still a lot of people.

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LOL. 39% of Americans have no idea what or where Japan is.

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China continues to moderize their military and security capabilities at a alarming rate, there is greater risk that tensions over long-standing sovereignty disputes or claims to natural resources will erupt into conflict, reversing the trends of rising regional peace, stability, and prosperity. Problem is that there is no transparency on how much it spends on personnel, research and development, operations and maintenance or acquisitions, as the U.S. military does.

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The C-fanboys who harp on the percentage of Americans who are ati-JP donlt realize that those same Americans are anti-Chinese as well. Or just can't tell the differnce. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Vincent_Chin

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Japan got fire bombed, nuked, had their war criminals (the ones responsible for many American deaths during the war) sent to jail or to death, still has US military bases in its territory, and basically follows everything that the US says. I think America got its fair share of retribution for Pearl Harbor and what not. So it really isn't surprising why they feel Japan doesn't need to apologize sincerely (you can't take sincerity back).

Other countries experienced a different situation from the US during WW2, however.

@OssanAmerica

The C-fanboys who harp on the percentage of Americans who are ati-JP donlt realize that those same Americans are anti-Chinese as well. Or just can't tell the differnce. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MurderofVincent_Chin

The Pew poll specifically stated that younger Americans (especially with minority backgrounds) see a favorable view of China in an economics sense. The Vincent Chin story is an unfortunate part of US history. That was during the 80s, where Americans were resenting Japanese cars and products. The poll however noted that the resentment towards Japan in the 80s was worse than their resentment towards China today. Again, this is solely based on economic issues.

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ThePBot Apr. 10, 2015 - 07:16AM JST The Pew poll specifically stated that younger Americans (especially with minority backgrounds) see a favorable view of China in an economics sense.

What favorable views? In the last two decades, the U.S. manfacturing jobs have gone overseas, primilary to China. What it means is that U.S. has nearly 10 -20 million workers only marginally engaged in their work situation. They don’t contribute their full potential to their households, the economy or society in general. While reporting a low, declining unemployment number may comfort people, we can’t ignore the millions of workers feeling the pain of the real unemployment number rising to over 12.5 percent. Why The ‘real’ unemployment rate Is higher than you think is another disturbing fact that compounds the challenge. The longer you’re without a job, the less likely you’ll get called back for an interview. If your close to one year of unemployment, the callback rate falls by more than half. Many employers see these would-be workers as damaged goods. These same people could be contributing greatly to the economy. Instead, they are spending their days trying to secure employment or working in unfulfilling and part-time jobs. The challenges is not solely job creation, but creating the right jobs to maximize a labor force. Getting people back to work is good, but if the quality of their employment is down or the money earned insufficient you create other problems. If you didn't know, China has been a major contributor to loss of manufacturing jobs in the U.S.

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@FrancescoB sorry but I won't elaborate further on your comment because a) it won't change anything about the facts that most of the civilized world already agrees on and b) I have something called a life and there is no point wasting time in debating ad infinitum here with pro-C commenters. You could do that with smithyboy but, alas, he's on your side. ;)

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Ossan: "The C-fanboys who harp on the percentage of Americans who are ati-JP donlt realize that those same Americans are anti-Chinese as well. Or just can't tell the differnce. "

First off, "C-fanboys"? Lame. It doesn't even make sense, and most certainly doesn't apply to people who try to slap every label under the sun on simply because they don't agree with you. I guess "J-basher" when you don't like the facts has just become 'passe'? Second, you do realize how you are only weakening your own argument, don't you? If a person simply points out that some Americans don't trust/like Japan they are not automatically sticking up for China, but that it is YOU who seem to think that anything not 'defending' Japan is 'siding' with China. But in reality you are instead showing that they are being objective while you are not. Good job, Ossan!

CGB Spender: "You could do that with smithyboy but, alas, he's on your side. ;)"

Even more lame than Ossan's comment because in his case he just doesn't see the trap he set for himself; you just intentionally make things up. ;) Shouldn't have to tell you that just because there's a lot of insecure people here does not mean point that out means for some reason you like China. What you got in those ciggies, Spender?

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