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The more advanced weaponary deployed by American in Asia, the better for China. The competition between nations boil down to the competition between people. Personally, I am impressed by American can-do spirit, but I have never been overwhelmed mentally. We have to admit there is gap on technology development and we Chinese lag behind the American. The reason I attribute to a lack of strong stimulus to our Chinese. Now it seem coming and we should really welcome it. Thanks the American for that. If we had to fight each other, please keep in your mind that we chinese would fight you no doubt of that but we don't hate you. We never go extreme as you are. And at the end of day, we are able cheer to each other when a fighting is over, just as we did at the end of Korea War.

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On a steady road to a conflict. Good job China!!

China has no ability to stand up against half the U.S. Navy, or even a quarter of the U.S. Navy. So, their actions are either a bluff or maybe they think the rest of the world will believe their nonsense.

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We can not illustate how powerful we are, or you are except we can have a fight. 50 years ago, we made an even in Korea when US was a super power and led a coalition forces. I don't think we would lose today!

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I'm doubt there was any cheering among Chinese and Americans after the Korean War/Conflict. A Marine Major I knew attributed the Korean Conflict to China, and so do historians with the facts. He saw Chinese soldiers and was shot at by Chinese weapons. In one case, he saw Chinese military platoon beating a N. Korean to death. America has no illusion about who was behind the Korean conflict.

The fact that China had land support certainly helped the conflict come to a standstill. Even then, China couldn't take the whole Korean peninsula.

As for the U.S.' perception of China, the U.S. is full of content people. They tend not to see beyond their own front door or neighborhood. They really don't care about China since China is not in their front yard. However, they do become appalled by China's behavior and realize that China is what we would call a loose canon.

There is more than just a technological gap between China and the U.S. There is a professional gap and an absolutely huge gap in Naval resources, aka ships.

Noone wants a conflict with China, but the same cannot be said for China.

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@Tangula51, 50yrs had been over. you think your Chinese still are good as before, I am really doubt about it. you Chinese in an attempt to change the order of world that had been established since WWII. Not that easy. if you do try to do it this way, we can and will be able to stop you by all means. Don't make world getting angry. we can wipe you china in flame like hell with more than 5000 nuke warhead.

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American's aren't interested enough in the Chinese to hate them.

Or to put it another more polite way, they are too busy with their own lives to hate the Chinese.

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The Pentagon will send P-8 submarine-hunting aircraft, cruise missiles, Virginia-class submarines, coastal combat ships and F-35 fighter jets to Asian ports and bases in coming years, the senior official told reporters

Allow me to rephrase: "The Pentagon, in an effort to cut costs, will send a mess of very expensive and high-maintenance ships and planes to Japan, where the tax payer will foot the bill."

"In an unrelated statement a Pentagon spokesman said, "It's win-win for us. We get to further raise tensions in the region and those suckers in Japan will pay for it. We realise this is an economic, rather than a shooting, war, and we're doing our bit to make sure that Japan stays in its place as number 3!".

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I have said it before and will say it again 'USA will be real beneficiary of any conflict in the region.'

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I think it is excellent for business and for the Asian front.

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Is it not time that Japan got permission to have military forces?

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New toys ! Thankies Santa !

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WWIII, coming soon to a theatre-of-war near you.

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opexwells: we can wipe you china in flame like hell with more than 5000 nuke warhead.

Nuclear war will only finally make the whole world like hell due to " nuclear winter" if a area about 1 million square km or more was wiped out by nukes. That's to say, suppose a big country like Russia, China, Canada, US, Brazil, India & Austalia was even only partly terminated, it means the end of human being. And geographically plane country like the US might be gone earlier than others. That's why the US is so afraid of others to own nukes. It's FYI.

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america is a really police officer of the world , and is really a reliable friend to its friends . not like china , who is always taking advantage from its fade friends and bullying friends as it has a hard time to take advance .

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"Allow me to rephrase: "The Pentagon, in an effort to cut costs, will send a mess of very expensive and high-maintenance ships and planes to Japan, where the tax payer will foot the bill."

"In an unrelated statement a Pentagon spokesman said, "It's win-win for us. We get to further raise tensions in the region and those suckers in Japan will pay for it. We realise this is an economic, rather than a shooting, war, and we're doing our bit to make sure that Japan stays in its place as number 3!"."

@Frungy:

You've explained the Japanese side. Now please explain why Vietnam, the Philippines, and other Southeast Asian countries welcome the moves, and want closer ties to the U.S.?

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@tangula51Dec. 20, 2012 - 04:37PM JST

Uhh, hope you walk the walk.

US will do it anyway, for China is not its vassal state. But is there really so much need to turn it into positives? The more Americans deploy, the faster/better Chinese grow?:-)

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Nhan ThaiDec. 20, 2012 - 09:22PM JST

america is a really police officer of the world , and is really a reliable friend to its friends . not like china , who is always taking advantage from its fade friends and bullying friends as it has a hard time to take advance .

Ask the Vietnamese forty years ago. Who fought side by side with them till the end and who abandoned them. And how Vietnam has paid back to each side. And who has given islands to Vietnam.

One thing you got right. America is the police of the world. No betrayal will be possible.

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with all the bad behavior that china is to its smaller and weaker neighbors , and now it (china) must facing to the US force , that is deserved to the bullish , so wait and see what is the new game that china use to confront to the US force . china should taste the S H I T of the US and experience how the Asean feel while tasting its ...

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Having been late for the last two world wars, the U.S.A. is making doubly sure they'll be in time for the next one!

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US will do it anyway, for China is not its vassal state

Whereas Japan is.

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Frungy-san,

Allow me to rephrase: "The Pentagon, in an effort to cut costs, will send a mess of very expensive and high-maintenance ships and planes to Japan, where the tax payer will foot the bill."

You hit the nail on the head!

Abe will pay the bill, however much it is. Whether Japan can afford it or not.

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viking68Dec. 20, 2012 - 05:16PM JST

American's aren't interested enough in the Chinese to hate them.

Or to put it another more polite way, they are too busy with their own lives to hate the Chinese.

Chinese are probably even busier and they like America and Americans far more than the other way around.

When China was humiliated left and right, America was never as greedy as others. Everybody knows war reparation to the States was used instead used as scholarships for Chinese students to the States. Then there was WWII. Even with the communists, there is no real hatred. The US criticizes China all the time, but it also accommodates most Chinese immigrants, including those corrupted officials. How can one hate a country or people like that?:-)

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opexwellsDec. 20, 2012 - 05:13PM JST

you think your Chinese still are good as before, I am really doubt about it. you Chinese in an attempt to change the order of world that had been established since WWII.

Who has changed the order of world?

Who settled Japanese territories without China? At that time, Taipei still represented China.

Who now quietly nudges Japan to arm more and, if necessary, to modify the very constitution She wrote after the war?

On the territorial disputes with Japan, China has used Cairo Declaration. Is that not part of the order? Where is the American voice?

US is deploying more weapons and this is not an attempt to change? Why not five years earlier? Why not ten years later? Pentagon's game is on, so the other side must have been doing something seriously wrong?

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@viking 68 "They (U.S.) tend not to see beyond their own front door or neighborhood."

falser words have never been spoken. please look up u.s. military involvements in iraq, afghanistan, vietnam, korea.

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Allow me to rephrase: "The Pentagon, in an effort to cut costs, will send a mess of very expensive and high-maintenance ships and planes to Japan, where the tax payer will foot the bill."

"In an unrelated statement a Pentagon spokesman said, "It's win-win for us. We get to further raise tensions in the region and those suckers in Japan will pay for it. We realise this is an economic, rather than a shooting, war, and we're doing our bit to make sure that Japan stays in its place as number 3!".

all about the benjamin$ for the military industrial complex.

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america is a really police officer of the world , and is really a reliable friend to its friends . not like china , who is always taking advantage from its fade friends and bullying friends as it has a hard time to take advance .

trouble is, it seems like a lot of people don't like the police officer. possibly due to incidences of police brutality - e.g. iraq, afghanistan, guantanamo bay, etc.

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0 SaketownDec. 20, 2012 - 11:32PM JST

The facade is over for the Communist Regime of China. Let me remind or educate you all out that over 55,000 Americans were killed in the Vietnam War. A War that was waged against Communist Aggression from North Vietnam who was Fueled, Armed, and Supplied by Communist China. America has not forgotten who played a major roll in all the deaths of those young Americans that have their lives for Freedom and Democracy. If Communist China had not played a key Logistical Roll in that War, then we could've Won and brought Freedom to South Vietnam. Therefore, Communist China must never forget that they were (and still are) a Key Accessory to Communist Aggression in the Asian Pacific Theatre of Operations. We have stealth Submarines, Ships, and Aircraft already in the region...and we will be watching.

To educate anyone maybe you need to answer where was the need for the facade to begin with.

And why Vietnam war only? What about the Korean War?

If your grand statement is to stand, how is COMMUNIST Vietnam getting on with the States recently?

If revenge is the name of the game, who should be the first target?

If anti-Communism is the goal, who is the easy target?

Yeah, keep watching.

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Nhan ThaiDec. 20, 2012 - 10:11PM JST

with all the bad behavior that china is to its smaller and weaker neighbors , and now it (china) must facing to the US force , that is deserved to the bullish , so wait and see what is the new game that china use to confront to the US force . china should taste the S H I T of the US and experience how the Asean feel while tasting its ...

Whose bad behavior? If you refer to Vietnam or Philippine, other ASEAN members are fed up. Vietnam claims half of the SCS and Philippine joined the fray only because of proximity in geography. They should be happy now. Nobody else wanted to follow them, so they are talking between themselves. What I don't understand is why they went ahead by themselves. They cried foul because China wanted bilateral negotiations. If they can work out a deal, it validates the soundness and practicality of China's approach. If not, they are hypocrites for calling China the core of the problem.

And what about your own bad behavior? Try using space to trick the system, is this some sort of high game also loved by the smaller and weaker neighbors?

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Yes, Middle-East crisis is almost over, now it’s East Asia turn, God bless us. We all know about absolute power corrupts absolutely; and wherever there is money to be made out of any crisis, the US is there. Perception can be very deceiving, when we see the US acting like this we don’t see it as a bullying tactic we see it as “policing” and we all turn and blame China. Oh, we can’t trust China because it is a communist country but we can trust Vietnam because it is now cozying up with the US. That means it is no longer the problem with communism per se but with the fear that has been created and fueled by a third party. Is the fear of China’s military buildup justified when we compare it to the huge military spending by the US and Japan? We just don’t see the fire behind the smoke. Who has the most to gain from all these conflicts especially on the sale of the weapons and containment of China? If we take the US out of the equation, we will see the territorial disputes are really minors and in fact, the disputes exist for years and years. We’re all pointing fingers at China and fail to see who is the biggest bully of the world, e.g. do we really know the real reasons for the US to invade Iraq and Afghan, is it really because of the 9/11 attack or something else who knows; regardless of the reasons it is still not justified to invade other nations and murder all those people. Is it really necessary for the US to sell the advanced weaponries here so that we can have a chance to fight each other? Don’t believe in “precaution” or “prevention,” it’s “tension creation”. As the people, do we really want to go to war with China? The ways China has been reacting to all these disputes are, in fact, normal; but we are all made to perceive China as a villain. What if it is the other way around? Do we really want to live in fear and refuse to learn Chinese?

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I would like to see what will be the actions of China if USA will deploy their ships near Senkaku Islands.

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DoubleHelix74, have an open mind and see what’s been happening. Do you really believe that the US hasn’t yet to take any sides in the disputes? Don’t be that naïve, action is stronger than words, you can see that the US has been talking and influencing all the south-east Asian nations, specifically they want more troops in Japan, Vietnam and Philippines and more, and what about the justification of selling more weapons to those countries. Do you really not see that the US already involved and taken side? Without the US behind the curtain, China would not resort to more aggressive stance and there would be more peaceful in the area. China had proposed to shelve the disputes before and now it wants to negotiate, but who’s been running around and beg the US for assistance. As they said, if the US tells Japan to “jump”, Japan would ask “how high”. I said minor disputes in the meaning that they are not worth to have a war over them even with abundant resources surrounding. Be realistic, do you think China would declare war with the third largest economy in the world and not suffer the consequences? All these tough talks coming out of Japan, they are just politics to fuel nationalism to serve their purpose in the election. Are we really afraid of China? The fear is really groundless in terms of military and economic sense. Perhaps, a war of revenge against Japan for its unforgivable past deeds; now I can see the roaring up fear. Is this fear groundless?

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One has to ask...is there a New Jersey class?

ROFLMAO.......Which exit would it have come from?

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China's dream of monopolizing the Pacific waters is like ching dynasty smok'n crack from the Brits.

Get a grip China before you get slammed from Guam and Diego Garcia or would you prefer the re arming of the Tibetans? or the western educated students that will spread democracy inside China.

You are scared of your own People and treat your own as a beast esp the low class peasants and migrants. Guess what it will bite you next year. You will face the wrath of Climate Change 20 13 and you will be desperate like high on OPIUM on your fake 9 dash line from Western Philippine Sea, Spratly's, Pacific, Senkaku's and the Indian territories (water).

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The article is a good palliative for all the anti-China hysteria that some in both parties are trying to whip up. Of course the proponents of a military build-up to counter the Chinese "threat" use a lot of circumstances to increase their audience. Prior to the establishment of the PRC the Chinese had been invaded multiple times by Western and Japanese imperialists, they'd seen many of their national treasures looted and stolen, and millions of their people slaughtered. Since the founding of the PRC China has seen the U.S. intervene in its internal affairs and wage three wars on its borders, two of which were largely to contain China. China has much greater reason to be concerned about its national defense and the need to develop a defensive military capability than does the U.S. U.S. military spending is for preemptive offensive operations. To use China's defensive military expenditures to justify U.S. offensive expenditures is the height of hypocrisy.

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If China's growing power is a concern, the last thing the U.S. needs to do is give them more income by borrowing from them to spend more on the defense budget. Even worse is the fact that U.S. don't need to spend more on the defense budget because the U.S. is already by far the most powerful nation in the world.

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"Having been late for the last two world wars, the U.S.A. is making doubly sure they'll be in time for the next one!"

@BertieWooster:

I don't know if you were intentionally trying to be funny or not, but you were none the less. Thank you for that. LMAO :-)

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toguro-san,

@BertieWooster:

I don't know if you were intentionally trying to be funny or not, but you were none the less. Thank you for that. LMAO :-)

I wonder what kind of a person would say something like that in all seriousness!

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sfjp330

Excellent post, excellent.

The article is a good palliative for all the anti-China hysteria that some in both parties are trying to whip up. Of course the proponents of a military build-up to counter the Chinese "threat" use a lot of circumstances to increase their audience. Prior to the establishment of the PRC the Chinese had been invaded multiple times by Western and Japanese imperialists, they'd seen many of their national treasures looted and stolen, and millions of their people slaughtered. Since the founding of the PRC China has seen the U.S. intervene in its internal affairs and wage three wars on its borders, two of which were largely to contain China. China has much greater reason to be concerned about its national defense and the need to develop a defensive military capability than does the U.S. U.S. military spending is for preemptive offensive operations. To use China's defensive military expenditures to justify U.S. offensive expenditures is the height of hypocrisy.

The U.S.A.'s hysteria about communism goes back a long way and is laughable.

Communism is one of those things like Pachinko, corporate TV and radio. Pay it no mind and it'll die a natural death.

Ignore it.

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Another waste of USA taxpayers' money. The Ospreys will take care of any situation that arises. That is the reason they are in Okinawa.

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noriyosan73,

And the Ospreys are another huge waste of taxpayers' money.

As are the bases.

The aircraft carriers.

And all the wonderful new ways of killing people that the U.S.A., in its infinite wisdom (sarcasm) sees fit to deploy in the Pacific in the near future.

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