Ukraine's Bucha seeks ties with Hiroshima after Russian massacre

civilians were massacred under Russian occupation 

'Civilians massacred' and still the anti-west, anti-democracy extremists cheer on Russia and its fellow totalitarian nations, Iran, China and North Korea. Life in the 'west' is far from ideal, but stll prferable for most humans other than those that want a dictator and his regime to dictate what they can do.

There has been no independent investigation or confirmation that a massacre took place in Bucha, we are expected to believe everything Ukraine tells us without question, I don't.

Ukraine's Bucha seeks ties with Hiroshima

Another propaganda move by the Ukrainian government now that Western financing for the war is drying up. There are many aspects to the nuclear bombing, and the massacre at Bucha has never been independently investigated, it all based on Ukrainian government claims.

Difference is Ukraine is a real victim

Japan isn't

It is nearly impossible for an entire nation to be the victim of another entire nation.

Anyone saying that Japan is a victim due to nuclear and firebombings in WW2 has a low IQ. It was the innocent people in those cities that are the victims, not the handful of guilty people that died or were injured there and deserved to.

Thus, Saburo, who raped and murdered women in China and died in Nagasaki deserved his fate. But newborn Hanako in the next house didn't because she did nothing at all. But knowingly murdering Hanako to get at Saburo is not remotely excuseable. Its a war crime. its as evil as Saburo himself!

If you can't think of these things in terms of individuals but only of entire nations, you need to stop talking about them because you aren't helping anything.

TheRegulatorToday 09:56 am JST

There has been no independent investigation or confirmation that a massacre took place in Bucha, we are expected to believe everything Ukraine tells us without question, I don't.

It's kind of hard to do a full investigation while there's a war on. However, the International Criminal Court, the UN, and others are trying to do just that:

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/how-are-war-crimes-ukraine-being-investigated-2023-02-23/

https://news.un.org/en/story/2022/09/1127691

And it's not just "the West" that is reporting on Russia's war crimes. Outlets like Al Jazeera, and many others, have been too:

https://www.aljazeera.com/features/2022/6/21/inside-ukraine-war-crimes-investigations

The Bucha massacre is real and will be remembered along the same vein as the last invasion of Ukraine.

Were the mass graves full of ethnic Russians or ethnic Ukrainians. I never get an answer to that simple question. Know that, and it will be a HUGE signpost to the truth of what happened in Bucha. And Kiev has had much much more than enough time to clarify this point.

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Were the mass graves full of ethnic Russians or ethnic Ukrainians

My best guess is that they were people wearing white armbands, i.e. identifying themselves as sympathetic to the Russian forces. But there is the fog of claims and counter claims, so without an independent (not a biased) investigation no one knows. One thing is sure: Russia has zero interest in such a propaganda disaster, while Kiev is 100% invested in it. Hopefully later historians will find out.

About Hiroshima, it is an event that should stand on its own and not be hijacked by all sorts of groups for their own cause. The last we see is that Hamas too is joining it, trying to compare Gaza with Hiroshima. Sad.