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gokai_wo_maneku
When I was a student there in the 98 to 2002, I had no female professors in my department (sciences) and have no memory of female professors, and there were only a very few female students. Have things changed much? I haven't been there in a while.
Yubaru
The building and grounds in that picture looks run down, and in need of a face-lift, like the entire university it seems.
plasticmonkey
Obviously Todai has been discriminating against qualified female applicants. The numbers wouldn’t be so low otherwise.
sakurasuki
Just create instant diversity won't solve any existing problem except making public image good, if they recruit people with no credibility they'll just end up badly.
https://www.theguardian.com/science/2015/feb/18/haruko-obokata-stap-cells-controversy-scientists-lie
sakurasuki
Diversity comes in many forms, beside gender there is also internationalization. Just check how many professors are really non Japanese.
https://asia.nikkei.com/Opinion/Without-internationalization-Japanese-higher-education-is-sinking
painkiller
The University of Tokyo has said it aims to double its number of female professors and associate professors to around 400 by fiscal 2027 as it pushes for more diversity on campus.
How about hiring the best available, pushing for quality and ability?
tamanegi
"We want to create a lively campus by hiring women on a large scale for the first time since the university was founded"
So the university has been discriminating against women since 1877.
Nemo
That’s an aggressive target. Hope they can hit it.
BigP
“Positive discrimination” is still discrimination!
Now, well qualified men will be discriminated against.
Just employ the most suitable candidate. Women are smart enough and don’t need this positive discrimination
They just need an even and fair playing field.
2020hindsights
painkiller
The University of Tokyo has said it aims to double its number of female professors and associate professors to around 400 by fiscal 2027 as it pushes for more diversity on campus.
I believe that is what they will do. Previously, they were obviously discriminating against women.
clown world
The discrimination against women in Japan hasn't even slightly moved in a century. It's gonna be a long stretch for this culture to obtain such a goal. As of May this year, 274 of the 2,322 professors and associate professors at the university are female. So the goal is to climb from 11.8% female faculty to 17.2% within 5 years. Hmmm.....
clown world
I think the goal should be at least 20% of a female faculty.
The Avenger
There are approximately 10,062 female teachers and 8,734 male teachers at Harvard.
Ah_so
That's precisely what they're trying to do. The first step is to stop discriminating against women.
Ah_so
Not at all. The building looks fine. The entrance looks modelled on European gothic church architecture (perhaps they imported some) but no don't see anything wrong with the rest of it.
girl_in_tokyo
Cue all the whining about giving women an equal chance, and correcting for the years and years of gender discrimination. Gods forbid half the professorship is feeeemale, right boys?
spin
Good to see more women faculty members@UTokyo. That being said, we should never compromise talent just to accommodate more women prof.
Septim Dynasty
This is good news but it's not powerful much as the University of Tokyo and other Japanese universities are sliding into irrelevance.
shogun36
This sounds a little too certain. I guess they have a stack of applications in the office? Or they will go to the female professor store and pick up a few along the way?
Why are they even talking about it? If you're gonna do it, just do it.
Why advertise how little women you have working as professors? It just makes things look worse.
You might as well talk about WHY more female professors weren't hired in the first place.
As usual, they just don't "GET IT" in Japanese management. No matter what company or school you go to.
girl_in_tokyo
WobotToday 10:55 am JST
There is plenty of research that shows women are discriminated against in STEM.
That's not the point, though, is it. Women and men both should have the freedom to chose, which means allowing equal access for both genders instead of allowing gender discrimination to inhibit both their desire and ability to go into the feild they are most interested in. How many men do you think feel held back from entering traditionally female-dominated fields because they are told it's not manly, or that they shouldn't enjoy those things?
It may not be 50-50 in the end, but we won't find out until we allow real opportunity for both genders to enter the feilds of their choice without being influenced by gender stereotypes and discrimination.
As for pay, are you saying pay for men and women in the same field doing the same work shouldn't be equal?
And are you saying that women and men aren't equally capable?
And are you saying that men and women don't work equally hard?
If this is indeed what you mean, then you've just proven that gender discrimination is very much alive.
It really is that simple.
painkiller
Actively seeking to hire women over men is gender discrimination.
Good luck Japan.
Lindsay
I’m all for equal opportunity employment. However, the decision to increase the amount of female faculty members should be on academic merit not solely on gender.
Elvis is here
Indeed. And actively championing bad political policies of any government is just sick.
painkiller
Elvis is hereToday 01:08 pm JST
Agreed--there should be no championing of a policy to hire women over men at the University of Tokyo.
girl_in_tokyo
Much shock, so surprise that men see giving women fair and equal treatment as gender discrimination, but see hiring men over women as a matter of fact and So Very Normal.
Yeah, we know what your thoughts are on women in positions of power. You've made yourselves quite clear.
tora
Only reason is the fall in international rankings. They will also "internationalise" by hiring more foreigners on limited "full-time" contracts and count them as "tentured". That's a loophole.
girl_in_tokyo
LindsayToday 01:03 pm JST
Right, because the university totally plans on hiring women who aren't competent instead of hiring women who are as competent as the men who also apply. I'm sure.
painkiller
Not_my_real_nameToday 01:16 pm JST
Indeed it is.
From the article:
"We want to create a lively campus by hiring women on a large scale for the first time since the university was founded,"
Quite an illuminating sentence.
Ass
Why?
painkiller
Not_my_real_nameToday 01:19 pm JST
How come it isn't?
Accomplish that goal by choosing on gender, and not merit.
Got it.
James
This is false the article should read: University of Tokyo to double number of female faculty members by FY2027
painkiller
Most people do understand, but apparently you do not, by your own statements.
Not according to the article.
They are going to discriminate based on gender, and that is discrimination. We agree on that, don't we?
Yotomaya
Good on University of Tokyo, but actions have to follow words, as they often don't on social issues.
The debate itself is so tiring.
There is so much evidence showing that women are disadvantaged in academia around the world. Saying that anything lower than roughly half of people in academia (and positions of power such as managerial positions, for that matter) being women is "artificial" or "unfair" is suggesting that women are less competent and shows the worldview of the person who says this. What's more, we're nowhere near that number and men are already whining about how they are at a disadvantage because only 90% of their colleagues are the same gender.
girl_in_tokyo
painkillerToday 01:38 pm JST
Well, let's just say that it's not clear only to people who see a women getting a position over a male candidate as gender discrimination instead of the result of a choice between equally qualified candidates.
In other words, for you men who are chosen for positions over female candidates as has been the norm is not gender discrimination, but women who are equally qualified getting those positions instead IS gender discrimination.
But hey, if you want to think that a university that is held in as high regard as this one would employ unqualified female candidates just for sh!ts and giggles, then you're free to think that.
virusrex
The accusations of the university doing improper segregation or discrimination based on sex are too obviously illogical and their basis can only be, ironically, based on discrimination.
If there is no difference between men and women according to intellectual or social ability then it would be expected for the ratio of genders to be similar to what is observed in the population. If that is not the case that means there is an invalid selection going on that tilt the balance.
Consequentially saying that this difference is being actively reduced (even if insufficiently according to the evidence presented in the article) does not mean the only way to do it is to ignore merit and only choose professors based on gender, since it can be assumed that merit is independent of gender then the pool of people has as many qualified individuals of either gender and would naturally lead to a balanced situation if merit was the only parameter to take care.
master
How strange that Tokyo University would publicly announce their new policy of sexism over qualifications.
How strange that they haven't learned a thing over the past decade.
They will soon find out that this virtue-signal, meant to appease woke western NPCs, will only embolden them to demand more.
Give an inch and they take a mile.
This will not end well for anybody.
Chabbawanga
Two female professors is better than one i guess
Thomas Twatt
Those with hiring experience in tertiary education here know that women are often employed over far better-qualified male candidates purely in the name of redressing the gender imbalance within a department.
What then frequently happens is the thereby (mis)appointed female’s inadequacies are quickly manifested, leading to disruption and disquiet and dissatisfaction and bad feeling within the department and among students.
In turn, this often leads to said females claiming ‘power harassment’ and either quitting or having their contract terminated on a manufactured technicality in order to reinstate workplace harmony.
Though it cannot be admitted publicly, it is well known that this happens. It is one valid reason why many Japanese universities are reluctant to jump on the ‘equality’ bandwagon.
TT
master
Thats called revenge.
choosing a specific number, in this case double the number of women, is the exact opposite of merit.
Its called a quota.
And it will not end well for anyone, including the women who are hired based on the fact they have ovaries.
Anonymous
The number of totally incompetent professors must be raised for the sake of inclusivity.
master
the speed and scope of your survey is remarkable.
that you came to that bizarre conclusion is shocking
and nobody - not a single person has made that ridiculous claim on this thread.
Thats a statement made out of emotion.
master
you're imagining opinions that don't exist.
The argument here is the poisonous ideology of quota hires, be it men or women.
master
My suggestion is this (if you live in Japan)
First prove that women are being discriminated against because of their sex, and not because they don't naturally gravitate to those positions in the first place because its not where their interests lie.
If it can be concluded without a shadow of a doubt its the former - Leave - if its too much to bear.
Japan isn't going to change its culture overnight to appease constantly complaining, angry, woke westerners. Nor should it.