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snowymountainhell
Help please. No offense but, how do you pronounce: *“Famiee Project” *?
“Fah-mi-i-i ?,... Fah-mi-eh-eh ?,...(typo?)... Fah-mi-Ri ?,... Fah-mi-Lee”??
Toasted Heretic
Of course, family is not limited to the above narrow definitions.
Plenty of same sex and/or single parents do just fine, thanks.
Strangerland
And plenty of married heterosexuals are horrendous parents.
Sexual orientation is not an indicator of inability to parent.
Robert Cikki
Awesome, so just cooperating firms and still, they won't be legally obliged.
Right now, there are couples that needs to run through absurd obstacles if one of them wants to get a Visa in Japan. I know of a couple, two nice ladies, French and Japanese. They are married in France, because it's not possible in Japan. After living few years in France, they moved to Japan and their marriage wasn't legally recognized. In order to be able to stay together, the French lady married her Japanese wife's cousin. Just to be a family and in case something happens (hospital, etc). This is just ridiculous.
The loudest opponents against same sex marriage are usually unstable or sometimes show signs of latent homosexuality and use arguments like zoophilia, kids, etc. Or always argument with sex in front of someone, etc.
I don't see a reason, why two adult human beings can't be happy together. And I don't understand, why a government needs to undermine their efforts and face the situation. Reminds me reading about old arguments against women and voting (insert Borat's slurs here).
Toasted Heretic
Absolutely.
Unfortunately, some people seem to think it must be the so-called traditional family unit and anything else is to be dismissed, ridiculed or trampled underfoot.
snowymountainhell
If you’re really interested in diversity and tolerance, you all should be looking at the “Business” section.
snowymountainhell
So, why didn’t they just use the word “FamiLy” for the name of the app, as in “FamilyMart”? Not so hard, is it?
Are “Famiee Project’ afraid of political backlash and trying to ‘hide’ their efforts further from ‘the Old guard”? They wont get real worldwide, media and prefectural government support if they ‘being timid’ about it.
So, as @BernardMarx suggests in another section today: Is this just a PR ploy to profit off of this segment of society, like Disney and Hasbro are doing in Today’s ‘Business’ section?
Thomas Tank
Having said that, while I think that everyone should have the same benefits, but that if it is not a union between a man and a woman, it should be called a civil union.
It's not the same thing. It's different. But we should treat everyone equally. Like men and women. Different, but equal.
Thomas Tank
That's all well and fine, but the landowners' get to decide anyway so it's a moot point.
kohakuebisu
I reckon the path to recognized gay marriage in Japan would be much easier if the country also recognized civil partnerships.
The restrictive concept of marriage is a burden even to heterosexual couples, as we have seen with the issue of surnames. It would be good to have a not-called-marriage thing alongside marriage, so that traditionalists can have their traditional thing and non-traditionalists can have something they are happy with. Which is to say, it would be good if this app and the companies involved also recognized (hetero) civil partnerships to help normalize the idea.
Ma-Hu
It is one of the ironies of how LGBTI+ rights have progressed in some countries in the UK that initially, when same-sex couples were legally allowed to register their partnership in 2004, they weren't allowed to call it marriage, but a civil partnership. Upstanding respectable Christian people complained, you see, that the word "marriage" could only be used for a woman and a man.
Same-sex marriage was legalised in England and Wales in 2014, and same-sex couples already in a civil union were able to be married.
What happened next?
Well, choosing to ignore the fact that the existence of civil partnerships was caused not by favouritism but by bigotry, heterosexuals started bitching that it wasn't fair that same-sex couples were allowed this extra right to choose between a civil partnership and a marriage. No fair! they cried. Why do those people get both, while we only get marriage?
Marriage was now, for some odd reason, not enough for the heterosexuals. Their human rights were being trampled.
Fair enough, said the European Convention on Human Rights. From 2018 any adult, consenting pair of human animals of any gender may enter into a civil partnership instead of a marriage.
I think Japan is so lucky to be free of the religious nonsense that has upheld bigotry and homophobia for so long. Individual wards, towns, and cities, as well as private organisations, have been going ahead and doing what they can to support human rights. The government can drag its heels all it likes, but equality and legal security for all couples is inevitable.
Human rights, you see.
Luddite
Legalise same sex marriage.
Mr Kipling
A better solution would be to abolish advantages in tax and benefits for married people.
Simple!
Ma-Hu
Christ on a bike...
First of all, they don't need the 'l', they can call it whatever they like.
Secondly, it's a Japanese company. Wordplay is common. I reckon here it's a portmanteau creation connecting the English word 'family' with the Japanese word 'ii' which means 'good'.
Thirdly - LMGTFY:
"Famiee(ファミー)は、住んでいる場所に関わらず取得・利用できる家族関係証明書を民間で発行する団体です..."
https://www.famiee.com/
kohakuebisu
Financial help should mostly go to parents and guardians of children, not to people just for being married.
Other benefits though, like spouse visas must remain. The state cannot tell people who and who not to marry.
Thomas Tank
It's surprising (disturbing actually) that people would down vote the idea of equality for men and women.
Strangerland
While the world is probably the most open to minorities that it has ever been, nevertheless there is still significant amounts of bigotry in the world.
Some of it is a small group of bigots being particularly noisy, and many of them are being as aggressive as possible, knowing that bigotry in humanity is becoming an outdated concept.
Thomas Tank
Yet bigotry is often perpetuated by the very people who claim to be calling others out on the same crime.