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Chinese ships enter Japan's waters for 1st time under new coast guard law

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Damned chinese Bully!

It is time to teach them a lesson.

23 ( +29 / -6 )

Give an inch to China and the will take an island. Time to push back.

29 ( +34 / -5 )

Boycott China

30 ( +34 / -4 )

Unarm these crazy guys, just when entering the country border. They are officially no military , only coast guard, and also no diplomats, who are mostly uncontrollable because of their status, therefore can be handled normally like all other civilians and ‘guests’. Everyone else, for example you and me, is strictly unarmed when entering another country. Try flying with a handgun to another country, if you want to see how that works at airports.... lol You better don’t try, of course! So they have a choice and can handout the cannon and other arms immediately or dismantle it and throw it into the sea some miles before or return to China.

10 ( +15 / -5 )

These intrusions will not end well.

21 ( +21 / -0 )

Japan should have built on those islands a long time ago when China wasn't so powerful.

Big mistake by them.

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Tokyo expressed "strong concern" over the new law, which also authorizes the Chinese coast guard to seize foreign ships entering waters claimed by Beijing.

So basically anywhere in the South China Sea since Beijing has claimed almost all of it contrary to international maritime law.

Let's see them try to claim a US carrier group on a freedom of navigation exercise

20 ( +22 / -2 )

It is time to teach them a lesson.

By asking them US to protect Japan? It’s always easy to want to go to war when it’s not your people who will suffer.

-11 ( +5 / -16 )

Time to inhabit what you claim. Put a dock and a hotel and I will go visit.

17 ( +20 / -3 )

Stop doing business with china, stop feeding that monster!

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known as Diaoyu in China, 

Who cares what they call it. The world's media need to stop legimizing China's attempted land grab by constantly repeating what China calls it. They can call it whatever they want in China. The rest of the world doesn't care.

The Defense of the Senkakus under Article 5 of the US-JPN Mutual Defense Treaty has been reaffirmed now by 2 Sectetaries of State, 2 Secretaries of Defense and 2 Presidents. The Senkakus are part of Okinawa Prefecture which houses the largest US military presence in Asia and serves as the gateway to regional operations. China doesn't dare attempt to take them with the PLA Navy. So instead they arm their fishing boats (Maritime Militia) and now their Coast Guard authroized to use force in "disputed" waters.

19 ( +22 / -3 )

Japan loves China.

Tokyo have a beautiful diplomatic relations with bully Beijing but still adamantly refuses to have one with the most Nippon friendly people in the world in Taipei.

Same with America! Lol!

-8 ( +4 / -12 )

It dosen't work boycot or military action. In first step Japan has to dialog with China. Then Japan to allay with the others Asian countries in tritory problem with China. I think America showed self special in Trump administration can not be trustable more. If Amrica want to have world hégémonie, has to be involve in Asia conflict.

-13 ( +0 / -13 )

China’s CCP again demonstrating their true nature as an imperialist, expansionist aggressor. To quote their terminology they need to immediately change their wrong thinking!

Japan does need to push back, economic and diplomatic would be the first step. Hiro above has a point, how about every time an armed Chinese vessel enters Japanese waters they immediately ramp up contact with Taiwan, ultimately leading to full diplomatic recognition. Tie it specifically to China’s own actions.

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As China continues to poke Japan in the rear without consent, Japan is analyzing the situation. Japan will likely send a strong letter of condemnation regarding the matter. "Dear China, you could at least buy us dinner first."

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Who cares what they call it. 

The 1.8 billion people that live in China.

They can call it whatever they want in China. The rest of the world doesn't care.

You say just after demonstrating how much you actually do care what they call it by complaining about it.

-12 ( +2 / -14 )

A few years ago during the Clinton Administration a US spy plane was literally shot down by China for being in their claimed airspace, then later on CNN live after stripping it, cut it in half live news feed. Hence Japan should do the same but in this case it is defensive measures not act of war on Japan's part which is known by the entire world as legal course of action. Claims can be made all day but Japan has bona fide documents that prove who has ownership and administrative rights. Sink the vessels or board them and then cut them in half. Japan has the right.

8 ( +9 / -1 )

Stop fighting over small issues.

-11 ( +3 / -14 )

Stop fighting over small issues.

If China would stop claiming ownership, there would be no fighting over this "small issue".

12 ( +13 / -1 )

This is the classic half full, half empty cup situation.

unfortunately for japan, they belonged to China, America took them, then gave then to Japan.

history doesn’t matter when there are nukes around.

-14 ( +2 / -16 )

It's at the point now where when we buy something made in China we are funding WWIII and it may well be started by the sinking of one of these fishing boats.

8 ( +8 / -0 )

The Japanese Coast Guard needs to watch videos of their Argentine colleagues doing what is appropriate over the years against Chinese boats having no business in places; those videos are everywhere on YouTube. It is a good textbook about both applying rules of engagement and sending a strong message against those sea outlaws.

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So angry about this. Japan absolutely has every right to use whatever means they have to expel the Communist Chinese BULLIES from Japan's territorial waters.

The Senkakus are inalienable Japanese territory. Period. Anyone who states otherwise is a liar.

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It’s no use lodging a protest with China for the incursion. Japan will have to speak to China in the only language the Chinese understand, the language of military force. If you want peace, prepare for war.

7 ( +8 / -1 )

Japan is being so patient with Big Brother...

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ossanamerika:

Okinawa Prefecture which houses the largest US military presence in Asia

I never knew Ryukyu was near the US coastline.

-6 ( +1 / -7 )

Put some people on the rocks!

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The Diayu/Tiayutai/Senkakus issue is similar to the Ryukyu/Okinawa amalgamation.

But both are similar and different at the same time really.

While the Senkakus are claimed by Japan it’s da-kine strange that the isles remains uninhabited and never colonized by Tokyo nor the other claimants China and Taiwan.

Okinawa on the other hand is not only inhabited originally by Ryukyuans but also colonized by the Japanese but then unfortunately also made the Crimea of Asia by the Americans.

If Japan and the USA really believes that the Tiauyutai belongs to Nippon then why can’t they make the isles into another da-kine giant Kadena American air base?

The answer my friend is pretty obvious.

Both Washingjing and Tokyojing never really believes that those rocks inherently belongs to Japan!

Those isles really are part and parcel of Ilan county of Taiwan!

-8 ( +0 / -8 )

What ever is happening in that dispute, the last thing that anyone should call for is a military solution.

Many of the people calling for " action " have not fully understood the impact and consequences of a war. But I ask , where have you been when US led NATO fights in Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria etc ? Those are ragtag forces compared to China. Just let that sink in for a moment.

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"The Chinese vessels pointed their bows toward the fishing boats, in a move apparently aimed at approaching them, around 4:52 a.m. about 22 kilometers south of Minamikojima, one of the islets, so that Japanese coast guard ships were deployed there to guard them, the headquarters said."

Even those armed with a squirrel-sized brain can see the implications here.

China will not dare forcefully challenge Japanese vessels,

They would have done it if it was against Vietnam or Filipino ships.

The Senkakus are completely covered by anti-ship/ground-to-air missiles from nearby Yonaguny and Miyako.

Everyone knows this, except some "experts" posting here.

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Japan should lay a few strategically placed underwater mines in its waters. That would give the Chinese something to chew on.

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The time to plan for war with China is now. Japan will be a key part of those plans, but so will Taiwan and SK.

https://warontherocks.com/2021/02/the-united-states-and-japan-should-prepare-for-war/

Should China attack Taiwan, Japan will likely find itself asked to support a U.S. operation in some capacity. China may also target U.S. forces in Japan — and possibly even Japan itself.

China will have internal (truly internal) battles to handle within the mainland borders as more citizens become frustrated with lacking basic freedoms they learn about outside the country. The more they squeeze their own people, the more dissent is created.

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Japan should have built on those islands a long time ago when China wasn't so powerful.

Big mistake by them.

JGSDF has surface to surface and surface to air missile batteries on some of them, as well as their associated radars and command stations. All it takes is an order from Tokyo to use them, but we are not going to know what their rules of engagement are as those sorts of things are usually classified.

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Japan should lay a few strategically placed underwater mines in its waters. That would give the Chinese something to chew on.

Well, no. Mining those waters would preclude Japanese fishing boats from entering their own territorial waters to fish.

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I never knew Ryukyu was near the US coastline

Because of the US-Japan defense treaty an attack on Japan is the same as an attack on the US, so in a metaphorical sense, yes the coast of the Ryukyus is near the US coastline.

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Shoot up a few of their coast guard cutters and the Chinese will quickly back off. I don't mean sink them, just shoot them up with cannon fire and do some damage. Shoot up some of their fishing boats too. Use ships and aircraft together. This is one mission where the A-10 might be ideal. Make it known the JMSDF, JASDF and hopefully US forces are serious about defending Japan's territory. Also put a little fear in their fishing captains about violating Japanese territorial waters and their EEZ. That is the only thing the CCP will respect. If Japan and the US do not push back now, the Chinese will swarm those islands and stopping them becomes much harder to do.

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It's at the point now where when we buy something made in China we are funding WWIII and it may well be started by the sinking of one of these fishing boats.

I'm with you. I stopped buying anything from China years ago and tell people all the time to boycott them. However I think a few well placed rounds in some Chinese Coast Guard ships and their fishing vessels now might prevent a larger war from developing.

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Pukey2Feb. 6  10:28 pm JST

ossanamerika:

Okinawa Prefecture which houses the largest US military presence in Asia

I never knew Ryukyu was near the US coastline.

The US coastline isn't in Asia. duh.

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@Desert Tortoise

However I think a few well placed rounds in some Chinese Coast Guard ships and their fishing vessels now might prevent a larger war from developing.

And Tojo Hideki and fellow Imperial High Command members thought a few bombs and torpedoes dropped on docked US warships would prevent a larger war from developing. It didn't end well for Japan.

What you don't get is this; the Diaoyu Islands are legally Chinese islands which Japan agreed to return by accepting Cairo/Potsdam declarations, is under obligation to return them to China(Republic of China), but Japan illegally held onto them.

Japanese coast guard firing upon Chinese coast guard and fishing ships at the Diaoyu Islands amount to Japanese illegally entering Chinese water and firing at Chinese ships within its territorial water, an act of war.

And don't underestimate the Chinese resolve to recover the Diaoyu Islands; the unification of China isn't complete until Taiwan and the Diaoyu Islands are fully recovered in the eyes of Xi and CCP Politburo.

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P. SmithFeb. 6  07:07 pm JST

Who cares what they call it. 

The 1.8 billion people that live in China.

that’s insinuation - have you asked them all ?

5 ( +5 / -0 )

And Tojo Hideki and fellow Imperial High Command members thought a few bombs and torpedoes dropped on docked US warships would prevent a larger war from developing. It didn't end well for Japan.

Breaking a few ships while trespassing is different from killing 2400+ and wounding 1100+ humans in their home harbor.

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@theFu

Breaking a few ships while trespassing is different from killing 2400+ and wounding 1100+ humans in their home harbor.

It's absolutely the same thing.

From the Chinese perspective, Japanese trespassed into their island's water and fired upon their coast guard and fishing ships. This isn't like the Chinese know the Diaoyu Islands belong to Japan and they are just doing it to cause trouble; Chinese really really do believe the Diaoyu Islands are the periphery islands of Taiwan that Imperial Japan stole from them, agreed to return by accepting terms of surrender, but has not fulfilled its surrender obligations.

This is why it's so important to see things from the other side's perspective. Had the Japanese Imperial High Command seen things from the US political and military leadership, then the whole Pacific War would have been avoided and Japan would still be an empire today.

-7 ( +0 / -7 )

What you don't get is this; the Diaoyu Islands are legally Chinese islands which Japan agreed to return by accepting Cairo/Potsdam declarations, is under obligation to return them to China(Republic of China), but Japan illegally held onto them.

No. The Senkakus were held by the US until 1972 as part of their occupation of the Ryukyus, which the US had to fight for in the bloodiest campaign of the war in the Pacific. When the US returned the Ryukyus to Japan all the other islands the US held were likewise returned to Japan. Japan has had settlements on them off and on for centuries. The US had absolutely no obligation to hand those islands to the Chinese and in the context of the Cold War it would have been pure idiocy to do so. In 1972 China was a communist enemy with which the US had no diplomatic relations. If China wants to complain to anyone they should complain to the US. Too bad if China doesn't like it.

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And Tojo Hideki and fellow Imperial High Command members thought a few bombs and torpedoes dropped on docked US warships would prevent a larger war from developing. It didn't end well for Japan.

It was a little bit more than that. The invaded Guam, Philippines, New Guinea and Wake. They were attacking British, Dutch and Australian warships in the Indian Ocean and marching south through French Indochina. Then they came back for a second shot at the Hawaiian chain with their attack on Midway. If that hadn't ended as unfavorably for them as it did history might have been very very different. But if you look at Japanese behaviors leading up to Pearl Harbor, going back to 1930-ish, you see parallels with China today. The US and its allies do not want to get caught out again as they were in 1941. That is why we have to push back hard today and make it clear Chinese aggression will not be allowed to succeed.

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