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I highly doubt anyone feeling sick will even bother to present themselves to a quarantine office. This is all totally meaningless.

16 ( +22 / -6 )

A lot of unnecessary hysteria fueled by the media, just like the Ebola scares.

Some were saying this could reach casualty levels similar to the great Spanish Flu.

I highly doubt it.

Will be under control soon.

2 ( +10 / -8 )

Good time to buy stocks in pointless paper masks. Have to perform the ceremony of looking as though you're doing something, rather than actually doing something.

0 ( +6 / -6 )

This is starting to worry me. Also in the news, the virus has just reached Singapore.

Some were saying this could reach casualty levels similar to the great Spanish Flu.

> I highly doubt it.

I also think that's pushing it ALOT. People also need to understand that thousands upon thousands of people do die from the common flu every year. But that doesn't mean that this news isnt cause for concern...

5 ( +5 / -0 )

Should i ban the chinese at my CTR? I work at the airport for god sake lol

2 ( +3 / -1 )

Boy I wish they would say which hospital. Our entire family has been in for yearly physicals this past week and it would be nice to know :/

2 ( +5 / -3 )

This guy is almost the worst possible scenario, potentially spreading it all over the place.

Still, we need to take sensible precautions on a personal level, hoping that if we do do catch it our immune systems will be fighting fit.

In the West people tend to be dismissively anti-mask, equal and opposite to around here, but I feel that it may be a case of any port in a storm, i.e. better to be safe than sorry. I have taken to wearing a mask when I visit the national hospital, for example.

9 ( +9 / -0 )

I think the “ accommodation” where he stayed should be disclosed. Not good for business but necessary for public health.

Also, a very selfish man, travelling from, Wuhan, 5 days after having a possible infection.

screening at entry points is useful but not a guarantee no infected people enter. Still, anyone stopped might save many from getting sick.

those who have their doubts about the severity of this have never lived in China where everything is covered up until the lid explodes of the pot. There must be hundreds of death and thousands infected or Xi would never allow these draconian measures off locking 8 cities down. If panic strikes there, he needs to send in the army.

a very dangerous political situation for Xi.

Japan has a difficult choice to make but must make it now. Bar tourist group and individual tourist for a period of 2 months or more and face huge economical consequences or face a health risk. A risk only at this point but the time to make a decision either way is short. If not acted upon it will be decided by the virus. We have much more chance it will be minimum, the impact, it is just about how lucky the Japanese government feels. Bit of a casino test.

5 ( +7 / -2 )

The patient told health authorities in Japan that he had mostly stayed in his room at his accommodation and that he had been wearing a mask when going outside,

I'd take that with a pinch of salt. The authorities need to check where he ate, if he took a subway etc etc.

3 ( +6 / -3 )

Cancel all flights from China until this is resolved!

3 ( +7 / -4 )

Also, a very selfish man, travelling from, Wuhan, 5 days after having a possible infection.

Maybe. Maybe not. Most people in this situation would assume they just had a particularly heavy cold. Pneumonia is not something we tend to self-diagnose.

-1 ( +4 / -5 )

Was just in Costco and the Chinese couple before me in line bought 20 boxes of facial masks. Sure prices are super high back in China now for such products, especially Japanese ones that actually may work.

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The first case in Japan, remember the guy said he had taken antipyretics so his fever did not show up on entry? This woman from China boasted on social media how easy it is to fool quarantine.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-51231593

Quote: The woman detailed her journey on social media site WeChat.

"Finally I can have a good meal, I feel like I've been starving for two days. When you are in a gourmet city of course you have to eat Michelin [food]," she wrote.

"Just before I left, I had a low fever and cough. I was scared to death and rushed to eat [fever-reducing] medicine. I kept on checking my temperature. Luckily I managed to get it down and my exit was smooth."

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Ok one more time, the wearing of a mask does not make anyone immune nor prevents this type of virus from becoming infected. This particular virus is and has always been airborne. As light as this virus is means it can attach itself in an incubated period until it finds a host. It can be just about anywhere i.e. air as water droplets unseen and floating aournd, sneezing aka blasting, bugars, phlem, cough etc. A dirty mask where the infected person sneezed inside the mask, or took it off to blast on a chair, hand rail, coat, etc. There are just too many ways to become infected. The best course of action is clean hygiene at all times if possible and stay away 2 feet distance from the closest blaster, and wash hands properly periodically, wash all groceries bought, i.e touched before putting them away. Drink and eat healthy to keep your body immune system up. For crying out loud, if you do have a fever don't be a hero and report to school, office or public high traffic areas. Stay home. You only get others infected hence the spreading. Unfortunately this is now human to human, animal to human ie. birds can carry and pass this as well so be keen. The flu shot does not mean one is exempt from this viral infection either. So again, don't be a hero or Internet know it all seek a well trained medical opinion.

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TV station Fuji has confirmed that the 2 cases are Chinese coming from infected areas into Japan. High risk areas and more appropriate steps would have prevented them from passing through immigration into Japan. From the report both men went sight seeing and 1 person there went to a Chinese hospital twice. First they told him he didn't have the virus, but when symptoms worsened he went back and was confirmed with the virus. After that the traveled to Japan already sick. Took medicine to bring his fever down and passed the thermal scanning. Why was this man allowed to leave China? That is what the public in Japan should know.

2 ( +4 / -2 )

Correction and apologies to readers, regarding masks it is important to wear the proper mask that includes or states BFE, VFE and PFE 99%. BFE is for bacterial particulates, VFE is for virus particulates and PFE is for pollution particulates all airborne or waterborne. It also aids in prevention of spreading or becoming infected via mouth/nose both ways at 99% but must state on vendor advertisement so read wisely and thoroughly. Making sure you have the correct mask will help minimize or spread exposure. Unfortunately unless one wears an all level Bio Suit, you can still be infected via eyes, skin or ears. All openings into the human body and makes its way into the respiratory systems eventually. Skin via your pores.

0 ( +3 / -3 )

The signage showing translations only has the Japanese one requesting people to alert staff if the feel the have a cold or fever.

Isn’t that ineffective?

1 ( +1 / -0 )

Good time to buy stocks in pointless paper masks

and that is why doctor recommend you wear them.

LOL at the MD

-3 ( +0 / -3 )

"Ok one more time, the wearing of a mask does not make anyone immune nor prevents this type of virus from becoming infected."

NONSense:

This a very serious topic. Here is the correct information:

First, a 2008 study published in the International Journal of Infectious Diseases concluded that when used correctly, masks are highly effective in preventing the spread of viral infections. Family members of children with flu-like illnesses who used the masks properly were 80 percent less likely to be diagnosed with the illness. Surprisingly, the difference between types of masks used was insignificant.

https://www.healthline.com/health/cold-flu/mask#1

Another study published in the Annals of Internal Medicine reported similar results. Researchers looked at 400 people who had the flu. They found that family members reduced their risk of getting the flu by 70 percent when they washed their hands often and wore surgical masks.

https://www.healthline.com/health/cold-flu/mask#1

Yes, a surgical mask can help prevent the flu,” Sherif Mossad, MD, an infectious disease specialist at the Cleveland Clinic, tells *****Health*. “Flu is carried in air droplets, so a mask would mechanically prevent the flu virus from reaching other people.”

5 ( +7 / -2 )

No one who's sick is going to present themselves to quarantine, unless they are deathly ill, and even then they'll just go to a hospital. On the contrary, someone with a minor cold, if concerned, that approached quarantine and said, "Excuse me... I have a headache and maybe a fever" would send the airport into complete panic mode and the person may face quarantine simply for just that -- a headache.

-3 ( +2 / -5 )

Anyway, it's good this guy (FOR this guy) is being treated here. Had he been nailed in Wuhan no doubt he'd be simply thrown in some quarantine zone where Chinese officials are likely trying to quash the virus as quick as possible... by killing it out.

-3 ( +1 / -4 )

"Ok one more time, the wearing of a mask does not make anyone immune nor prevents this type of virus from becoming infected."

NONSense:

This a very serious topic. Here is the correct information:

Thank you reader for your reply:

However while the information you provided is somewhat helpful I stand by my statement as it does not make anyone immune. That percentage you provided only proves the point, but it does cut down the number possibly getting ill from viruses, bacteria or pollutants if one is wearing the correct mask to do so. An ordinary dust mask sold at most convenience stores, 100 coin stores do not. ONE has to read as it does and is significant due to the manufacture fiber technology used to protect a wearer. You don't see a person going into a fire filled with smoke without the proper PPE do you? Of course not, it would be senseless to think an ordinary mask would protect one from smoke inhalation so too the same application towards airborne particulates.

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Yes, a surgical mask can help prevent the flu,” Sherif Mossad, MD, an infectious disease specialist at the Cleveland Clinic, tells ****Health. “Flu is carried in air droplets, so a mask would mechanically prevent the flu virus from reaching other people.”

Only to the wearing from letting any infectious disease outwards. Please continue to research this topic further. A surgical mask does not protect the wearing against breaking airborne particulates unless again the proper grade surgical mask is worn vs ordinary day to day ops.

-2 ( +2 / -4 )

Making sure you have the correct mask will help minimize or spread exposure. 

Mostly irrelevant for these cases, any mask you buy in Japan from the convenience store or 100yen shop is effective (when used properly) because as mentioned before you are not trying to trap viruses but droplets, which are many orders of magnitude bigger. The important thing is to use it properly which is what actually lowers their efficacy most of the time

3 ( +4 / -1 )

Look the bright side... no i don't see it.

Damn... they force us to weak mask now... i look like a clown now.

-1 ( +2 / -3 )

China themselves have locked down 25M people. Temporarily banning inbound flights from China is hardly rascist under the current conditions. The real question is what has China offerd the WHO to refuse to declare this a global emergency? If they did, other governments (and not just Japan) would be able to temporarily stop inbound flights until this virus spread is contained.

0 ( +2 / -2 )

While this is a step China has taken is step in the right direction, I still wonder how they could come up with a vaccine so quickly when just a few days ago it was a mysterious, strange and unknown virus? In the real world it takes time to get a vaccine for any viral infection as there have to be case studies etc. a quick turnaround only works in the movies. Also why is the WHO so quick to protect China as well as many of the local papers. Can readers please provide feedback or a moderator send me a response?

0 ( +0 / -0 )

@John Beara

Damn... they force us to weak mask now... i look like a clown now.

I doubt it. You more likely just look like a dude wearing a mask?

Wash your hands, and don't touch your face folks. I would definitely wear a mask during my commute, then dispose of it upon reaching ground level. Thanfully I don't have to ride public transport...good luck folks! If you do get sick, take a few days off and sleep.

3 ( +3 / -0 )

Please, please stop the tourists from China from coming in! At least for now. We are in a dangerous situation!!

-2 ( +1 / -3 )

I read that Wuhans food market has snakes in with the food being sold and that a virus jumped from the snake to people. That story is online. 1 moral could be keep snakes separate from real food.

0 ( +1 / -1 )

Regarding masks, wearing them has the positive side effect that you cannot unconsciously wipe your mouth with your hands for whatever reasons, itching, habit, dryness, which is the easiest way to get infected when outside!

1 ( +1 / -0 )

While this is a step China has taken is step in the right direction, I still wonder how they could come up with a vaccine so quickly when just a few days ago it was a mysterious, strange and unknown virus?

What makes you think they already developed the vaccine? this is not true, at much it has been reported they are in very early stages of producing it, which has absolutely nothing strange or difficult to believe.

It is extremely simple to sequence the antigenic epitopes of the virus, because it is after all a variety of coronavirus that are extensively studied everywhere and specially in China. Once you have the sequence you can clone it and produce the peptides in bacteria and quickly purify it, there, you have the earliest form of a vaccine all in a couple of days.

What will take time is to test it for efficacy and safety, improve it and finally put in order a system for large scale production but obviously nobody has said they already did that.

3 ( +3 / -0 )

Funny how everyone is banging on about masks when the CDC says nothing about them but does says this:

wash your hands often with soap and water for at least 20 seconds

avoid touching your eyes, nose, or mouth with unwashed hands

avoid close contact with people who are sick

Read to check if you actually care about not getting sick

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/about/prevention.html

0 ( +0 / -0 )

What makes you think they already developed the vaccine? this is not true, at much it has been reported they are in very early stages of producing it, which has absolutely nothing strange or difficult to believe.

Wrong, for one, the vaccine does exist, and recently provided to China, guess they were the "real world" test subjects. Hopefully I'm reaching. However, it does exist as well as ample time for testing completed. By the way it takes more than a "couple of days" at best realistically 1-2 weeks for full effect.

Just for you, here you go: On June 19, 2015, the UK government-funded Pirbright Institute filed an application for a patent for the live coronavirus, which was approved on Nov 20, 2018. On November of 2019, the Pirbright Institute’s website published an article focusing on the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation’s funding of “a Livestock Antibody Hub” to the sum of $5.5 million. On Oct. 18, 2019, also before the outbreak, the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health and the World Economic Forum co-hosted an event in NYC where “policymakers, business leaders, and health officials” worked together on a simulated coronavirus outbreak. In the simulation, CAPS (the coronavirus) resulted in a death toll of 65 million people within 18 months, according to John Hopkins University. Furthermore I have seen the video highlight reel from the event shows fictional newscasters from “GNN” discuss how the hypothetical immune-resistant virus (nicknamed CAPS) was crippling trade and travel, sending the global economy into freefall.

It just so happens that a professor from Imperial College London recently warned the coronavirus has the same kill rate as the Spanish flu, which claimed the lives of 20-50 million people in 1918.

-4 ( +0 / -4 )

It's not unexplained.

Chinese Army received immunization shots for it in October... how so ?

-1 ( +1 / -2 )

https://japantoday.com/category/world/China-expands-lockdowns-to-25-mil-people-to-halt-viral-outbreak

There is an interesting part to all this. This site quotes it in the other article.

Why is China building a hospital just to treat these patients?

It takes months to build one. Ot were they aware and had already prepared for it?

They must have, if they could vaccinate their entire military months before.

That brings the question of Was it intentional? By Whom? For what reason?

-1 ( +0 / -1 )

Why is China building a hospital just to treat these patients?

It takes months to build one.

It is scheduled to be completed on Feb. 2nd, which is little more than a week away.

@rgcivilian1

Just for you, here you go: On June 19, 2015, the UK government-funded Pirbright Institute filed an application for a patent for the live coronavirus, which was approved on Nov 20, 2018.

No, the British did not develop a vaccine in 2015 for a then-unknown disease which would first be observed on the other side of the world in 2019.

The best they can do is develop a coronavirus vaccine tailored to a specific already-known coronavirus illness and, when a new coronavirus disease emerges, develop a new vaccine as quickly as possible based on what they already know and based on its similarities, such as they are, to other diseases such as SARS or MERS.

Coronaviruses were already known (since the 1960s) to be a class of virus. SARS and MERS are already known (since 2003 and 2012, respectively), and known not to be the same as each other. And the Wuhan coronavirus is another thing again.

3 ( +3 / -0 )

They now say it is spread via eyes, so face masks really are pointless.

0 ( +0 / -0 )

Happy Chinese New Year to everyone at JT!

0 ( +0 / -0 )

If anything, Chinese people who are infected are more likely to flee China.

1) They believe they could get better care abroad.

2) They fear what the Chinese government will due to the infected for the greater good of the Communist party. (ie. Kill them all until the infection disappears, or quarantine indefinitely until they die.) It will depend on the numbers.

Infections like this are considered a risk to national security. So, some immoral countries wouldn't mind seeing some of their rival countries destroyed by this infection.

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Wrong, for one, the vaccine does exist, and recently provided to China, guess they were the "real world" test subjects. Hopefully I'm reaching. However, it does exist as well as ample time for testing completed. By the way it takes more than a "couple of days" at best realistically 1-2 weeks for full effect.

That is false, mistaken, there is no vaccine available. Rumors based on nothing and that obviously cannot be proved at all. There is not a single person vaccinated against this new coronavirus yet.

What you are confusing is this particular variant with the much broader virus type "Coronavirus" but that is also a huge mistake, antigens are completely different so even if a person was vaccinated agains influenza, SARS, MERS-CoV and all other pathogenic coronaviruses known this person would still be susceptible to this new species.

Also, read again my comment, the couple of days is to have the first step of vaccine development ready which is the production of antigen. It requires no more than this time to be produced and therefore it can validly be said this first step has been done, no inoculation is necessary for this, much less antibody production. Those are all subsequent steps yet to be done (again, for THIS virus)

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Funny how everyone is banging on about masks when the CDC says nothing about them

For THIS in particular the recommendations are still very incomplete, after all not much is known yet about this so only the most general and easily accomplished things are recommended, nevertheless the CDC do have guidelines about use of mask for other better known respiratory pathogens including other coronaviruses, it is then relatively safe to say that use of mask can be as useful with this one the same as all the other hygienic recommendations. Indispensable? obviously not, but still way above "useless"

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