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Japan reports 25 new coronavirus deaths; highest for single day

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As long as people do not limit their social interactions then cases will rise.

Also, trains in the morning rush hour are still densely forcing people into contact with each other.

Weekend shoppers have to put up with long lines and no barriers between them.

People will just keep on spreading the virus then...

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Does that number include indirect causes of death of coronavirus like for example pneumonia or kidney failure? Just asking.

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Does that number include indirect causes of death of coronavirus like for example pneumonia or kidney failure? Just asking.

Hard to know for sure how many have been missed, but it should pick up all deaths from those with coronavirus. Whether it does or not...

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@mu-da

Does that number include indirect causes of death of coronavirus like for example pneumonia or kidney failure? Just asking.

Time will eventually answer your question.

FYI,

https://headlines.yahoo.co.jp/hl?a=20200403-00000008-nkgendai-life (in Japanese)

https://headlines.yahoo.co.jp/videonews/nnn?a=20200420-00000214-nnn-soci (in Japanese)

https://www.forbes.com/sites/joshuacohen/2020/04/14/underreporting-of-covid-19-deaths-in-the-us-and-europe/#488f16a182d7

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Based on the death total so far of 276, out of a total population of nearly 126 million Japanese citizens, that equates to about 2.2 deaths per 1 million people. This ranks Japan at around 74th in the world for coronavirus deaths per 1 million people. Not that bad really, hardly worth the hand wringing from the demagogues out there.

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*"When Prime Minister Shinzo Abe first declared a state of emergency ....., .....on April 7,..... "*

Which was way too late. They had enough time to impose restrictions and get prepared!

In addition to the trains, commuters etc, I wonder why are there still so many trucks on the roads,

crossing prefectures in all directions? There is still too much "wandering" around, IMPO.

I know, stuff has to be moved around,but isn't there any way to limit or centralize this?

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So, as a general rule, multiply this by ten or twenty to arrive at a more accurate figure.

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yet no light at the end of this long, dark tunnel.

usreamer, the light at the end of the tunnel is the C train, or COVID train!

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Japan has confirmed at least 11,137 COVID-19 cases, excluding about 700 from the Diamond Princess cruise ship and those among people who returned to the country on charter flights after the virus was first detected in China late last year.

If they are excluding these cases from the official numbers, even when it’s a Japanese person infected, does this mean that any case they can link back to the cruise ship or a returnee are also excluded?

For example, the people they let off the cruise ship and allowed to travel home via public transport (the government should be removed for this decision alone) - undoubtedly spread the virus. If a cluster of 10 or 20 cases suddenly popped up in those towns, were they quickly linked back to the cruise ship and not made official?

This begs the question, how many people returned to Japan on charter flights? How many people returned after already testing positive overseas somewhere? How many of all those people were properly quarantined for 14 days before being allowed to just go back home via public transport?

Everyday I read more information about this in Japan it seems more and more likely that they were testing clusters that they could trace back to a particular source, and not officially reporting / counting them. Then people started presenting at hospitals with symptoms, but were being told to go home because they hadn’t had been to specific source places where these clusters were known such as live houses. So it spread and spread, and only recently they’ve actually started counting cases - and only very specific cases.

I reckon you can multiply the official number of 11,137 by 10 unfortunately. I hear some people immediately shouting ‘but where are the deaths then?’ - Because they aren’t testing people, they wont know why they’ve died. How many deaths have simply been mistaken as pneumonia or flu, especially among the elderly?

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Where is the investigative reporting when you need it?

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Unless you make social distancing compulsory the numbers will rise.

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If they are excluding these cases from the official numbers, even when it’s a Japanese person infected, does this mean that any case they can link back to the cruise ship or a returnee are also excluded?

Excellent question. Abe didn’t think this far when he begged WHO to separate these to make Japan’s cases lower. Further, 80% of cases are now untraceable. So the answer to your question would be no.

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Lots of American are getting poison by chemical, use to disinfect their houses if nobody came t o your house, their really no need to disinfect with chemicals ,Google Coronavirus Poisoning

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Japan's medical system does not have a strong tradition of investigating or determining cause of death. It has long had the world's lowest autopsy rate and the early murders by AUM, for example, using exotic nerve agents were determined to be from natural or unspecified causes. So I'm not confident the death numbers are all that accurate.

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So now that new cases have declined for the past few days, especially in Tokyo where it almost have been reduced by 50%, they want to sensationalize the death count. This “dramatic” increase was solely due to six cases being reclassified as covid related deaths. Sheesh...the press will stop at nothing.

how about the good news that it took 6 days for new cases in Tokyo to double. But since the lockdown, it now takes 11 days to double.

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Another infected cruise ship docked in Japan: "One crew member of the Italian cruise ship Costa Atranchica has tested positive for coronavirus, the mayor of Nagasaki, Tomihisa Tagami, said at a news conference on Monday." I wonder how this one will be dealt with this time?

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Japan reports 25 new coronavirus deaths; highest for single day

....which is almost nothing in a country of 120 million. Get a perspective, people.

I am more worried by the gradual hysteria setting in here than any virus.

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I heard there are still a few patients in hospital who had travelled on the Diamond Princess.

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State of emergency doesn’t mean squat unless they change wording in constitution. The gov cannot take away civil liberties of the masses. Cannot Force martial law and keep them off trains, out of work and at home. Everyone complaining about Abe not doing his job, who wrote the constitution? Americans. Their hand is forced and after this becomes history, japan will have think long and hard what they need to accomplish for this to never happen again. A pacifist country unwilling to tell someone NO!

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Another infected cruise ship docked in Japan

The cruise ship has been docked at Nagasaki for its repair since 25 March. There are 623 crews on board but no passengers. There are potentially another 53 infected. This ship was supposed to leave Nagasaki by now. All crews are quarantined in there.

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I saw news about the police realising some suspicious deaths (i.e. unclear circumstances not from obvious causes) were actually from covid-19. I suspect there will be more but we may never know

https://headlines.yahoo.co.jp/hl?a=20200420-00000088-mai-soci

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How many deaths have simply been mistaken as pneumonia or flu, especially among the elderly?

Medical doctors suspected that dead elderly people have signs/symptoms of coronavirus, they have to test PCR of all dead people before returning them to their families. Otherwise it is going to be more spread all over in city.

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GW will be the peak because are people going to stay where they are or go back home,potentially spreading it? The death toll could then go up even more,but nothing like overseasthough.

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"The cruise ship has been docked at Nagasaki for its repair since 25 March..." That's over three weeks ago. How is it that a quarantined individual became positive that late (more than the 14 day)? Must be due to the efficient and rapid testing that the Japanese government is employing.

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Actually if people stay home or visit their immediate family only it will hopefully go down during Golden Week...

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That's over three weeks ago.

According to Japanese media, the ship is still there. They are still investigating the virus in the ship. But it seems Nagasaki doesn't allow the infected crews to disembark on the land.

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oldman_13Today 07:30 am JST

Based on the death total so far of 276, out of a total population of nearly 126 million Japanese citizens, that equates to about 2.2 deaths per 1 million people. This ranks Japan at around 74th in the world for coronavirus deaths per 1 million people. Not that bad really, hardly worth the hand wringing from the demagogues out there.

WilliBToday 10:05 am JST

Japan reports 25 new coronavirus deaths; highest for single day

....which is almost nothing in a country of 120 million. Get a perspective, people.

I am more worried by the gradual hysteria setting in here than any virus.

No testing = no new cases

No autopsies = no new cases

kwattToday 10:29 am JST

How many deaths have simply been mistaken as pneumonia or flu, especially among the elderly?

Medical doctors suspected that dead elderly people have signs/symptoms of coronavirus, they have to test PCR of all dead people before returning them to their families. Otherwise it is going to be more spread all over in city.

Around 3,500 people die every day in Japan. There aren't enough staff to perform the tests now so how do you think the system could accept another 3,500 a day?

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I predict the number of cases and deaths will continue to grow despite the state of emergency. In Japan as people seem to assume the by wearing a mask, they are immune to this thing. The paper masks that most people seem to wearing are ineffective at preventing the inhalation and exhalation of viral particles so cannot pretect you from the virus. They are merely signals to others that you are conforming to the social norm of wearing a mask. Moreover, people ignore social distancing and isolation measures. I went to the super market on Sunday and the place was packed with families going for a family outing! People do not get that this is serious and they should be limiting their time in close proximity to other people in confined spaces...

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Around 3,500 people die every day in Japan. There aren't enough staff to perform the tests now so how do you think the system could accept another 3,500 a day?

If medical doctors suspect dead elderly people have symptom/sign of corona virus, they have to test PCR of them. However they don't test all dead people if there is surely nothing to do with the virus.

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Masks are merely virtue signalling, unless you have the proper ones health care professionals are supposed to use. I agree that many believe the mask is enough, hence no social distancing, no hand washing and people not bothering to use the hand sanitiser provided in shops.

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Japan is very late in every aspect to confront this novel virus of no mercy. There's no test and we don't know where this invisible virus is spreading. It is scary still not to panic to know the proportion is very little to the whole population in Japan. The deaths tends to elders and vulnerable people with other illnesses according to world's date, but not clear in Japan to know facts the results are.

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Maryland obtains 500,000 coronavirus tests from South Korea - Why can't Japan do this?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/20/maryland-coronavirus-tests-south-korea-trump

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"I am more worried by the gradual hysteria setting in here than any virus..." That's what they said in New York.

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Why can't Japan do this?

Main problem is not number of test kits. There are not enough number of national licensed examiners of virus. Ordinary doctors can't examine any viruses. Japan has not prepared for virus infections because SARS, MERS did not spread out to Japan in the past. It unfortunately did not consider it seriously.

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Japan has not prepared for virus infections because SARS, MERS did not spread out to Japan in the past. It unfortunately did not consider it seriously.

Excuses, excuses.

There are a lot of countries that didn't experience stars, sers and still acted swiftly.

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@drlucifer

Truth is truth. Japan actually did not prepare for growing up virus examiners. That's why Japan can't test 10,000 peoiple per day. If not many virus examiners, how they can test 10,000 per day. One day is 24hrs.

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@drlucifer

Maybe in your country would let one virus-examiner test 1000-2000 people on one day, Japan will never let one examiner test so many people, in Japan at most 100 people one day (8hrs). Because too many tests would make mistakes of virus test.

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Excuses, excuses.

There are a lot of countries that didn't experience stars, sers and still acted swiftly.

I eagerly await your listing of all the countries that did not experience either SARS or MERS, but still acted "swiftly" in responding to the threat of the coronavirus pandemic. Multiple countries that experienced either or even both SARS and MERS, failed to adequately respond, including Australia, Italy, United States, and the U.K. among others, leading to the debacle seen today.

And thumbs down voting is not a proper response.

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I reckon you can multiply the official number of 11,137 by 10 unfortunately. I hear some people immediately shouting ‘but where are the deaths then?’ - Because they aren’t testing people, they wont know why they’ve died. How many deaths have simply been mistaken as pneumonia or flu, especially among the elderly?

Totally agree, and countries that believe in useful health data and transparency are working to revise their Covid-19 death figures up to include non-hospital deaths. I think some UK media for example are referring to daily hospital deaths, to make this clear. Usually there is a time lag to get the figures though, so we cant get one neatly packaged figure the next day.

Thanks to the poster above who gave links to articles on this:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/joshuacohen/2020/04/14/underreporting-of-covid-19-deaths-in-the-us-and-europe/#3130cf2d82d7

So, for example:

Soon, the Netherlands will also be retroactively registering nursing home deaths, as well as those that occurred at home. For this purpose, the Dutch are developing a national system for primary care physicians and others to record deaths due to COVID-19 that have thus far not been officially tallied. Experts believe this could eventually add thousands of deaths to the nation’s count.

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