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Yubaru
Now we will see just how much people have learned from all of this, or will face a quick return to shutdowns because folks acted stupid! I hope its the former and not the later!
Yubaru
You are being selective in your commentary, some location have seen a jump in cases because they opened up!
Tokyo-Engr
@oldman
I am writing as another old man. I fully agree with you that the economy needs to get back on track.
This is not true. Singapore is a prime example of a country which relaxed restrictions and then afterwards had a severe uptick.
We do agree that economies need to open however I think re-opening with caution and common sense measures should occur.
Fiddlers
Time now to support the restaurants and businesses that have been impacted by this State of Emergency. This virus like others is here to stay so we have to get used to living with it.
Kumagaijin
Time to go out and spend that 10man I'm still waiting for.
oIdman_13
So far the people of Japan have done a good job, but it feels a little too sudden to reopen, peoples safety before profits I say!
I mean I've not even got my Abe-no-Masku. I'm so mad at the world, considering the elderly are more vulnerable, I should be more worried!
that person
Yet, I’m still waiting for my elusive masks
finto
I support reopening, but with caution! Some establishments must still wait it out, so we can figure in the next few weeks if the downward trend in new cases can be sustained. The end is on sight so shouldn’t blow it! Good luck and good health to all on here, let’s continue to be vigilant whiles we get most of our lives back.
Monty
That is very nice to hear.
I think everyone here agree that a re-opening is absolutely OK and necessary.
We all know japanese people are very cautious people and they will do their best, (like they already did) to keep the pandemic under control.
Nobody in Japan will run around without any self-prevention.
But I can see some people walking around without mask. And you know what? 90% of the people without masks are foreigners! I think we foreigners should learn from the japanese people!
My experience from yesterday:
I went to Uniqlo yesterday, but before I could go in, the staff forced me to wear a mask, use hand sanitizer and they measure my fever.
I felt very very safe during my shopping at that Uniqlo store.
Vince Black
Excellent, get on with it and put all the virus silliness behind
dbsaiya
Nishimura is the economic revitalization minister and is in charge of the emergency response. This shows you what the priorities are so it's up to the general populace to be smart and remember why the hell there was a shut down in the first place. Don't place money over public health or IT WILL come back and smother whatever economic pipe dreams you may have had.
Christopher Pelham
I am shocked that Kanagawa and Hokkaido are being required to have new infections! What kind of policy is this?!
In some states in the United States such as Florida, North Carolina, and Texas (and a number of others) where restrictions have been relaxed, the numbers have begun trending upward again. Given that only a small portion of the population has been exposed and (potentially) developed antibodies, it's absurd to expect otherwise. If people with the virus are allowed to come into contact, especially prolonged contact, with others who are vulnerable to infection, then the virus will spread, and the more people who gather, the more will be infected.
kwatt
Everyday is warm and hot soon. The virus spread get very slow until winter but so worry it in winter.
gaijintraveller
So I suppose there will be no emergency by the time my Abenomasks arrive.
Christopher Pelham
cnn.com/2020/05/23/us/arkansas-swim-party-coronavirus/index.html
bass4funk
I went to my local Costco 4 days ago and it was swamped, took me two hours to navigate through that mess, so don’t even think that Japan is going to do a phased anything, the floodgates will open and I just suggest say away because already here in Fukuoka, people are loosening up on their safe distancing, a lot of people aren’t wearing masks, stores are all packed, same goes for malls, playgrounds, so I just stay from people as much as I can. If Japan re-opened everything in incremental phases I wouldn’t object, but this green light go is just crazy.
Mirai Hayashi
Except that places like Singapore are warm all year round, and yet their infections remain relatively high. If anything, the warm weather will probably cause a spike because people will be out more.
John Beara
I went to a beach yesterday, and the parking was closed.. i parked my car like a savage... cops came and asked me to move my car.
Pachinko parlors shouldn’t be open before the beach. I’ll guess that government officials and other workers are looking after their own indulgences. Or they’re in $tight with gaming operators.
Yubaru
Wow, emergency lifted! Time to hit the pachinko parlors! Yeah! Freed from boredom finally! (sarcasm)
Yubaru
This is based on the assumption that the virus doesnt spread in hot or hotter weather, just one thing to keep in mind....Brazil!
Monty
I agree with Mirai Hayashi, that the hot weather probably has no influence on the virus.
Personal self prevention is the key point!
Face masks, use hand sanitizer and keep social distance as far as it possible.
I can just talk about my living area and my experience, but most of the people who don't care about self prevention are foreigners.
I saw a group of foreigners in a supermarket (5 people), stuck together very close and nobody wears a mask. At the cashier they stood very close to the japanese guy in front of them, even there are marks on the floor where to stand.
The cashier complaint to them, that they should please step more behind. At least they did it.
Japantime
Japan has been lauded in the international papers in the last few days for the handling of the situation. Hopefully now some people on here will admit they were wrong.
carpslidy
Hospitals arent full, infections are low of course the emergency should be lifted.
The virus isn't going away so what is the point of waiting any longer.
sf2k
the economy is made up in that it is a tool made by society. People made it up, so it's not something that should be controlling people against their health
Far East Angler
@Monty
All your points were valid until, you pulled out the "Foreigner card".
Down here in Nagasaki prefecture, I've seen the same thing with the locals.
At the Aeon store people touching every item, no social distancing, no masks.
Same thing at the park, day care bring small children together in bunches, no masks, kids holding hands.
So yeah we see it on both sides of the fence, so put your "Foreigner card' back in your pocket.
Monty
@Far East Traveler
I took out the foreigner card, because 90% of the posters here are always complaining about the behavior of the japanese government and the japanese citizens.
I just want the people here to see, that also foreigners are not behaving correctly.
Of course you are right, we see it on both sides.
stormcrow
Winter is coming.
Remain very cautious.
Akula
Positive signs. Japan has done an excellent job of containing the virus and is now reaping the rewards.
Mirai Hayashi
Totally great point! Where I live, its mostly the older people who are the biggest offenders. They seem to not understand what's going on around them. Some of them wear masks, but they wear it around their chin (exposing their noses and mouths)..what's the point of that? And the concept of social distancing shouldn't be that hard, but they seem to have a really difficult time with it. The just want to get as close to you as possible.
And the touching....ugh! So annoying. Especially in the fruits and veggies aisle. Some people (especially the older women) feel that they need to closely inspect every single thing before they put it in their baskets. The least they can do is use the plastic bags to pick up the fruits in veggies.
Yeah...not a foreigner thing, but more of a lack of etiquette from those who live with their heads in the clouds.
oIdman_13
@Yubaru,
I guess you might have a point and I was just cherry picking ideas to support my own views.
Justin Person
@sf2kToday
Economies and currency are indeed made by people. It replaced the barter system. If you want to quit your job, donate all your money to charity & go back thousands of years to doing everything yourself then be my guest. Hope your hunting and carpentry skills are good or you won't have a house and constantly be on the verge of starvation. May as well cancel your JapanToday subscription as the electric company won't like you not paying your bills. Of course this was said tongue in cheek :-)
Monty
So annoying. Especially in the fruits and veggies aisle. Some people (especially the older women) feel that they need to closely inspect every single thing before they put it in their basket.
But you guys know that this behavior is everywhere in the world. Not only in Japan.
In my home country they don't even touch it, they also eat it. (Strawberries, Cherries..).
Old and young people. Before they buy it, they check the taste.
Don't misunderstand me. I agree with you, that this behavior is bad.
stormcrow
It's funny because Japanese, in a way, practice social distancing anyway, they often wear masks and they don't shake hands or hug. It could very be a cultural thing that has made all of the difference.
Think about it, in America some people would laugh at you for wearing a mask right now and taunt you to take it off.
Mirai Hayashi
I don't know what goes on in other countries. All I can tell you is what I see going on here. You pointed out that foreigners are behaving poorly; I am saying that so are local people and especially the older folks. In these times, no one should be touching anything that they aren't going to buy. It's bad behavior during normal times, its even worse behavior now.
Monty
Mirai Hayashi,
100% agree!
Mirai Hayashi
That's not social distancing. Social distancing is not only avoiding direct contact with people, but its also avoiding indirect contact, AND keeping at least 2 meter distance from others. The part that a lot of Japanese seem to have an issue with is maintaining the latter.
Fuji Matsu
Time to go and spend the money I haven't applied for yet from the government ;-)
Justin Person
@Mirai Hayashi
Avoiding direct close contact is the goal of "social distancing". Indirect close contact, such as walking past someone without speaking, is not so much a risk. The virus is mainly spread via air vapors emitted from our mouth when we talk or cough, and our nose when we sneeze. Directly engaging people face to face within 2m is the main way it's spread.
Justin Person
For those worried about people touching fruits and vegetables in the stores.... scientists believe you cannot become infected with COVID-19 by eating. The virus is destroyed by our digestive system. If you rub that avocado around your eyes and nose after obaasan touched it then... Transmission by breathing, coughing and sneezing are the main risk factors. Wash your hands often to reduce risk of touching face. When you go to the grocery store, either wear a mask or hold you breath and pinch your nose while shopping :-D
bass4funk
I agree it is very bad behavior, but what can you do, not much, a lot of elderly people do this, you can’t always wrap fruit like you do veggies, but old people will do what they want and this country is not about to tell people, especially the elderly, please refrain from touching the fruit, but then again fruits like Watermelon and musk melon you do need to touch and tab to make sure you get a ripe one. I brought back from the States Veggie wash or you can use a light mild soap to wash the fruit and veggies, but try not to stress out because old people will continue to do what they do as aggravating it can be.
Raw Beer
There are a few exceptions, but there has been a strong correlation between infection rates and weather.
And the virus has been experimentally shown to "die" quickly in warm humid conditions.
So I expect the infections to be low during the summer and return in autumn.
Yubaru
Why? One thing still stands out, Japan limited testing, and due to that fact, it artificially kept it's overall numbers down. You seem to be saying thats a good thing!
So if I tell you we are no longer testing for cancer, does that mean from now on there is no cancer in Japan?
Yubaru
If you think this is what defines social distancing you have no real idea what it means!
Jump on a morning train on the Yamanote Line, and then tell me with such confidence that Japanese "practice social distancing anyway"!
Vince Black
Agreed it’s always the ignorant old women that grope all the fruit and vegetables without a care for anyone else. Anytime you see such abhorrent behaviors just say something to them, loud enough for others to hear. They always stop after that.
Justin Person
People from every country around the world handle fruits and vegetables prior to buying as a way to determine state of ripeness. This is normal and not considered bad behavior. For those concerned... COVID-19 is not spread by eating it. It's a respiratory thing.
FizzBit
oh yeah! You a ba-dass raising your voice to elderly women for doing what any smart person would do, check the fruit for softness, bruises, rotton spots, etc. I guess you’re gonna be the inventor of the automatic pocket fruit checker, right?
Strangerland
I squeeze the fruit for ripeness. Anyone who tries to tell me not to will hear my opinion on their opinion.
Mirai Hayashi
This is what I mean by indirect contact. Touching handrails on escalators, or elevator buttons, touch panel screens, smartphones, handrails on trains, basically any surface that may have been touched or have been in contact with by an infected person. That is why this virus is so highly effective with propagating itself. It can live on surfaces for several days which people will touch and infect themselves.
Mirai Hayashi
Its one thing to pickup fruit to check for ripeness, its another to touch everything in the bin and potentially contaminate or damage other people's food. If I need to pick up a piece of food to check for damage or ripeness, I usually do it using the plastic bag near the fruit and vegetable bin.
While we're on the subject, another thing I often notice is people do is put their fruit or vegetable directly in their basket without putting in a plastic bag first. Even before this whole corona thing, that always baffled me. But now with this virus going around, I really don't understand how people can do this. I rarely see stores cleaning those baskets....
Strangerland
The scientists I read, have said that while you say what is true, this is a case of one of those situations where non-scientific people read something, and misinterpret it. While it lives on surfaces for several days, they say that doesn't mean that it's particularly transmittable from those surfaces.
Even the CDC is saying that they don't believe that surface transmission is the main way it is spreading.
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/prevent-getting-sick/how-covid-spreads.html
justasking
I'm still wondering what Japan did. Japan has not done worse or better than any other country along the western side of the Pacific Ocean.
Rosalind Harris
I don't have any problem with checking fruit and vegetables, but this whole time, elderly people in my area seem to not care about the coronavirus at all. Many not wearing masks, coughing and sneezing everywhere, standing really close (too close for normal circumstances), and several times when people have been social distancing in line, an elderly person will come and stand in the gap. :|
Usually I don't mind that old people don't give a crap, but now it's a little...
Strangerland
Fruits and vegetables should not be considered clean when you buy them. You haven't seen what happens to them on the way to the store. The basket is fine - you should be washing all your fruit and vegetables before eating anyways, particularly when eating raw.
Moderator
Back on topic please.
RationalReader
Unfortunately the governments (including but not only Japan and Tokyo) have created rods for their own backs here. They have convinced so many of the low information/low intelligence portion of the population that the virus is highly dangerous, even to the young and healthy, that they will have trouble now in persuading such people to return to normality. The road to (economic) hell is paved with good intentions.
Boy Next Door
I got it. The government is bleeding cash to mitigate the effects of the virus on the economy. They just put money over life into this.
Do the hustle
One can only hope the people have learned how to protect themselves from the virus and they continue to take precautions. Tokyo should be very cautious about this. The population density and the madness of peak hours could very easily create a major outbreak virtually overnight. Perhaps, their saving grace is, it’s coming into summer.
Tom
And what is health minister Kato and his clowns doing the rest of the time? Proactive testing or sleeping in diet as usual? Oh well, I guess there are much more important things to assess at the moment. (sarcasm)
Cognac
Singapore counts 23 deaths for corona virus
end of discussion, lockdown is useless
Cognac
the virus that hit Far East Asia and the one which hit the west are different, there were 5 variations of this virus and there was just one country which had all of them
wanna guess which country is ?
the one which Pompeo and Colin Powell come from.
Cognac
I agree with you
Among the G7 countries Japan is the one who had the less impact in therms of cases and, especially, deaths.
That's great, especially considering how much hysteric comments were here a months ago.
Ike-in-Tokyo-from-89
Education has failed on so many levels as illustrated here.
Education ...
The “k” variation of the virus probably predominates here. It’s much less harmful. Just luck perhaps.