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Australian scientist have successfully copied the virus, the Chinese also did but they didn't share it with WHO.

this is a great break through as it helps other laboratories around the world develop a vaccine

also Dr Catton said "SARS we know had a death rate — a mortality rate — of about 10 per cent. This [coronavirus] appears to be 3 per cent; my personal opinion is it will turn out to be lower than that," .

so it presently not as lethal as SARS and no where near Ebola

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-01-29/wuhan-coronavirus-created-in-australian-lab-outside-of-china/11906390

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@Jonathan Prin

Uh-huh... That's an unknown point.

There are some known points too. It's killed well over 100 so far, infects people before they show symptoms, and can be passed person to person by someone who doesn't show any symptoms (i.e. not only by coughing or sneezing). And it is just getting started. Isn't that "risky" enough for you?

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The unknown point is virus mutation and risk associated. This thpe of virus can become more deadly if mutating because vaccine created for one type becomes obsolete. If spreading, more chance to mutate.

Life goes on.

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What a nightmare.

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Since the media won't say I will, readers what we have on our hands is "pandemic" an outbreak of a pandemic disease. There its out. Bringing in more folks to infect the rest of us only is asking for more trouble. Good going Abe..

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Time to start thinking about postponing the Olympics until after this has burned out. The prevention steps take so far seem nearly meaningless to me.

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To calm the conspiracy theorists, there is a good article on the sequencing and a good layman explanation of the derivation and mutations associated with the Wuhan virus. Due to comparisons among patients, they peg the virus's birthday to between October 30 to November 29 of last year. Not a strain that has been keep in a laboratory.

https://www.statnews.com/2020/01/24/dna-sleuths-read-coronavirus-genome-tracing-origins-and-mutations/

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Folks! Stay clean! Eat well! And get enough rest! If you show signs, get yourself to the hospital!

That is all we can do for now!

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Where'd you get those figures? With the official death rate at 100 but there being thousands and thousands of cases there's a fatality rate of 3%

3% and even the above 1/25 are both wrong because they are assuming that the 5,500 infected will be cured. You need to compare the amount of deaths to the amount of recovered instead of comparing deaths to all infected. Based on the current Chinese governments statistics, that would be around 132/235 = 56% mortality.

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@WobotToday  09:38 am JST

there's a fatality rate of 3%... don't throw silly figures around like that without evidence! 

The original poster wrote 1 in 25 chance of dying which is a fatality rate of 4%... not very different from your post about 3%.

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This is going to be a big one I fear and it won’t take long before hospitals are overwhelmed which means it will be impossible to contain or treat every patient. I hope I am wrong but from where I am standing it really looks like mission impossible.

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Starting to look like we got ourselves a "12 Monkeys" scenario in the making.

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Yes but the broader chances of dying once you've caught the flu are like 1 in 800 but the chances of dying once you've caught the Wuhan Coronavirus are around 1 in 25. It's a much more deadly disease once you have it. That's the point.

Where'd you get those figures? With the official death rate at 100 but there being thousands and thousands of cases there's a fatality rate of 3%, but that's probably an overestimate given that plenty of people might have the virus but not now (it doesn't cause serious problems for everyone).

I'm not saying it's safe and precautions should be taken but don't throw silly figures around like that without evidence! Here's my source: https://amp.theguardian.com/science/2020/jan/27/what-is-coronavirus-symptoms-sars-china-wuhan?CMP=twt_gu&utm_medium=&utm_source=Twitter&__twitter_impression=true

@mods I think it might be a good idea to update your policy to make people show evidence for claims to stop the spread of fake news

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Little known but finally been discussed is that while group trips have been benched in China, personal private trips haven't so they keep coming. Which is why this will continue to spread in Japan and other countries and the scanner that checks your temperature is worthless. I don't believe that no one in the group had symptoms but was taking medicine to hide the symptoms. Why post was deleted with true and correct information is beyond me. I'm glad that the TV stations are finally getting the word out to people that private personal trips coming from Wuhan and other parts of China are not banned and allowed to travel freely.

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To the people saying "The flu kills more people per year than this"

You can't make that analogy right now. This virus is still in its infancy. Who knows how/if/when it will spread any further than what we know.

The fact that the incubation period where no symptoms are shown is so long and contagious is worrisome. The flu has early symptoms. This apparently does not until its too late.

When the first reported cases of HIV came about, more people were dying from flu or some other disease then. But then HIV spread as it did. We did not know the severity of the virus then, just as we don't really know the severity of this one.

In terms of a possible pandemic, isn't it always best to err on the side of caution rather than not?

If this turns out to be nothing to worry about, at least you can feel comfortable knowing that you took precautions and that it didn't cause much damage overall.

If it turns out to be something this world is woefully unprepared for, wouldn't you regret not taking your precautions sooner?

The fact that no governments outside of those next to China are banning any travel FROM China is worrisome. Something isn't right here.

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If some factory worker in China with this virus coughs on products and if the virus can live for a while on the surface of those Chinese made products then the whole world is in danger since almost everything you buy today is from China.

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The infected bus driver twice this month transported tourists who were from Wuhan,

In others words he did not visit Wuhan, Wuhan visited him.

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@John Beara

*At what moment shall we start panicking?

The flu kill more people every years...*

Yes but the broader chances of dying once you've caught the flu are like 1 in 800 but the chances of dying once you've caught the Wuhan Coronavirus are around 1 in 25. It's a much more deadly disease once you have it. That's the point.

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@Meyouwenti

There’s a possibility that the coronavirus spreading around the world is a laboratory-created strain accidentally

That is highly unlikely given the history of the coronavirus. With its link to the common cold and being what most scientist believe to be the primary cause, it can be understood why it can spread quickly and easily.

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Last weekend I spoke with several doctors and nurses and they hadn’t received any advice from the Japanese Ministry of Health concerning the virus.

There are images of people collapsing on Chinese streets and the doctors here were amazed at such symptoms.

I guess that they have never seen nor heard of such virulence before, in Japan.

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At what moment shall we start panicking?

The flu kill more people every years...

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Some heads will have to roll, as simple as that.

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@Meiyouwenti

Fake news or rumors is my thinking but previous Coronavirus were contagious after developing symptoms. Confirmed by China but not the WHO yet, this Coronavirus is contagious before the development of symptoms. Asymptotic for 1 week to 10 days in average. So this is getting suspicious to me, and an human made virus is a possibility. But rumors are rumors

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There’s a possibility that the coronavirus spreading around the world is a laboratory-created strain accidentally leaked from a bio-warfare research lab in the suburbs of Wuhan. I hope it’s fake news.

https://gnews.org/89749/

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Sounds like the infection already has possibly infected many people in Japan who will show symptoms soon. All it takes is one sick cough in a crowded metro train and the whole country’s got it.

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Criminal the hospitals did such a bad job

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Kurisupisu-san he was sent home twice, on the 14th and a few days later he checked into a different hospital and was sent home again and was finally hospitalized Friday or Saturday last week. So some 10 days coughing and sneezing around Nara...

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"We will take all possible measures to prevent the spread of infections," I don't think he is going to get this genie back into the lamp. No need to panic yet, though.

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After 3 days the bus driver went to hospital?

In the meantime he was in restaurants, trains, coffee shops etc.

Welcome to Nara..

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