Japan may expand ban on foreigners from China amid virus outbreak

Don't do it.

The government of Japan, has no knowledge of the virus, but what they hear from others, even in the US, our government has posted the limited knowledge it know Google CDC Coronavirus

Wrong again. Japan should focus on possible domestic sources for the virus. I have 100% confidence that 10 time more cases will be discovered if Abe govt starts the screening.

The virus is now in significant numbers in the major transport hubs of China, eg Guangdong, Beijing - not simply Hubei. A blanket ban on ALL foreigners from ALL regions of mainland China, as Singapore, USA, Australia etc have enacted, is the safest option.

Akie,our CDC health services, say their is no known treatment, but to stabilize a person, treating major vital sign

Do the math. The fatality rate is sticking at 2%, significantly less than SARS MERS or even influenza. And many of those people are old or infirm.

The plan for those contaminated is to contain them and then dump in the ocean. Oops, wrong article.

Yrral, screening is not treatment. Actually, there is a treatment: wash your hands after pee. There is no vital sign, not even a high fever.

AkieToday 07:24 am JST

Yrral, screening is not treatment. Actually, there is a treatment: wash your hands after pee. There is no vital sign, not even a high fever.

I would advise you to do it at least before though ... Your hands are way dirtier than your genitals hopefully.

sensei258Today 07:15 am JST

Do the math. The fatality rate is sticking at 2%, significantly less than SARS MERS or even influenza. And many of those people are old or infirm.

Let's get the fact straight, seasonal flu fatality rate was 0.07% last year in the USA.

Abe government is always slow to take action when it comes to emergency. They should have banned entry of Chinese passport holders and all those who have been to China recently, just as the US, Australia,Singapore have done.

"The government of Japan, has no knowledge of the virus, but what they hear from others, even in the US, our government has posted the limited knowledge it know Google CDC Coronavirus"

Yeah, because you are working with a virus originated by China, and a Chinese government known for refusing to disclose information, including the full details regarding the infection. The only sources of information that can be somewhat relied upon are leaked videos regarding the current state of Wuhan itself, pictures of overworked doctors, and funeral homes that are working nonstop.

That's who you are working with, no wonder everyone else is left with limited knowledge, thus leaving closing the borders being the safest option!

TakCWAL, if this happened in your country, it could be 100 time worse. China does an excellent job to contain the virus, you should be thankful.

"TakCWAL, if this happened in your country, it could be 100 time worse. China does an excellent job to contain the virus, you should be thankful."

WOW, just WOW...

Do the math. The fatality rate is sticking at 2%, significantly less than SARS MERS or even influenza. And many of those people are old or infirm.

So if 5m people in Japan catch it, that would be 100,000 dead.

Thank you sensei for this. Now I have done the math, what conclusion should I draw?

Don't talk about it. Do it! Your window of opportunity is passing you by.

The people showing symptoms today we're infected two weeks ago.

Two weeks ago the virus was almost unknown. On January 21 there were 441 confirmed cases. Today there are over 20,000 and all of them presumably became infected before the Wuhan lockdown.

I would expect that the numbers are going to rise sharply in other cities very shortly.

Dr. Francis Boyle is perhaps best known for authoring the Biological Weapons Act. In an explosive interview with Geopolitics and Empire, Dr. Boyle reveals that the coronavirus now circulating in the wild, exploding as a pandemic, is indeed an “offensive biological warfare weapon.”

In this eye-opening interview, probably soon to be banned by YouTube, Dr. Boyle plainly confirms that the coronavirus is a biological weapon system which escaped the Wuhan BSL-4 laboratory and broke containment in the local population, spreading uncontrollably.

https://youtu.be/TsyujjitOFM

Do it!

Foreign nationals? Are Chinese included in that category? If anyone looks up examples of doublespeak, this should be in the top 10.

Watched the news this morning and it seems there are 10 confirmed cases on the ship and it appears the passengers will be quarantined on board for 14 days,

@RedMango: the theory of it being either a bio weapon or a virus which was being studied is gaining traction with some legitimate sources (China’s largest bio laboratory is in central Wuhan). The fact that a doctor who posted about a “new SARS like virus” on social media at the beginning of January was threatened with arrest is also troublesome and adds fuel to this speculation (said doctor came down with the virus) This from the Washington Post;

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2020/02/04/chinese-doctor-has-coronavirus/

Abe, stop sitting on your hands. Just ban all incoming transport from China until this is under control.

Australia has done it, and they're even more dependent on China than Japan is. The Chinese deputy chief of mission in Canberra was kicking up a fuss yesterday about it, playing the racism card. But he was rightly ignored. The Chinese government shouldn't be taken seriously about anything until it starts being honest.

Who's willing to bet that'll happen any time soon?

...meanwhile back at the ranch, the WHO disguised as a door has had its knobs shot off.

Do the math. The fatality rate is sticking at 2%, significantly less than SARS MERS or even influenza. And many of those people are old or infirm.

and if your grandmother were part of the 2%, would you be able to do the math?

The Japanese government would solve a lot of their problems if they'd simply hire on the JapanToday commenters, experts in absolutely everything, as consultants.

Are you kidding me?! It's not "may", it "must" be even "now" dude, seriously. I'm really worried about CHINESE pneumonia even I'm in Japan damn. US doesn't spread at least all over the world

Should have done that earlier. Now it is sort of too late, no?

Watched the news this morning and it seems there are 10 confirmed cases on the ship and it appears the passengers will be quarantined on board for 14 days

From 'one' guy who didn't seem to care where he has been, or that he had symptoms before boarding the ship. Put it down to human nature? Sigh....isn't this enough evidence for the WHO?

Can we say Tedros's behaviour can be put down to human nature too? The man is supposed to inspire confidence, his job as head of WHO is to convince the world tthat measures are in place, AND everything that can be done has been done, yet he is standing in the way of the most effective measure to thwart the transmission of the disease (ie travel restriction, something China itself is doing). The guy is supposed to be a health professional, yet acts like a spin doctor for the CCP.

Infections and deaths should have should have slowed by now, going by 'the propaganda' going out of China...but it isn't.

The Japanese government would solve a lot of their problems if they'd simply hire on the JapanToday commenters, experts in absolutely everything, as consultants.

I think China needs them even more than Japan.

if this happened in your country, it could be 100 time worse. China does an excellent job to contain the virus, you should be thankful.

@Akie, I hear there could be an opening for head of the WHO, you look like a perfect replacement, good luck with the application.

https://www.change.org/p/united-nations-call-for-the-resignation-of-tedros-adhanom-ghebreyesus-who-director-general

Just blanket ban all Chinese travelers. Not hard.

Just blanket ban all Chinese travelers. Not hard

It doesn't even have to be that drastic. Some countries have simply suspend visa free travel.

To get your visa, you have to agree you are free of symptoms, and agree to testing. Also agree to isolation or deportation if you test positive.

MeiyouwentiToday  07:44 am JST

that's cold.. especially from a username suggest Chinese identity

Just wondering whether the lofty target of 40 million visitors and the massive money it brings in is not the cause for the reluctance and half-hearted decisions we have seen so far.

The Japanese government would solve a lot of their problems if they'd simply hire on the JapanToday commenters, experts in absolutely everything, as consultants.

Haha - how much do they pay?.......Seriously....I would not want to be the one having to make some of these decisions and I have no illusions I can do any better. This is extraordinarily complex and there are so many things to consider.

There is talk of the mortality rate being 2% (I think it could be lower but there is not enough data at this time) on the other hand as Sumiko said above;

"and if your grandmother were part of the 2%, would you be able to do the math?"

My mom is elderly and I would not want here to get this virus due to inadequate precautions being taken by a government.

On the other hand I am not convinced that China is being completely forthcoming on the amount of deaths which have occurred do to this virus (a Chinese doctor acquaintance of mine actually said this to me).

These are really tough decisions that need to be made and I do not envy those having to make them.

CaptDingleheimerToday  08:59 am JST

The Japanese government would solve a lot of their problems if they'd simply hire on the JapanToday commenters, experts in absolutely everything, as consultants.

Good idea! But although we clearly know how to solve all of Japan's problems, we'd be too busy bickering on this forum to get anything done.

No less effective than the endless government meetings though, I guess...

Why include Hong Kong and Macau? At this moment, Japan, Thailand and Singapore has more cases than these two regions. In fact, Japan has more than three times the cases in Macau, and South Korea, Germany, Taiwan and USA are all fast approaching similar numbers to HK, which has now closed practically all its borders with the mainland. Is Japan banning people from these countries too?

And if you're going to include HK and Macau, at least have the decency to use traditional Chinese characters, not simplified.

Blanket ban

At this moment, Japan, Thailand and Singapore has more cases than these two regions

I think some would classify this ^ as evidence tougher, more comprehensive containment is required, not less.

BTW, 57 new cases in Guandong today, with 29 critical. IMHO, this is a massive threat to HK being the filial roots of HK. Just wait for those celebrating new year with famiky to return to HK.

AkieToday  07:48 am JST

China does an excellent job to contain the virus, you should be thankful.

Back in 2002/2003 SARS was determined to have started from civet cats sold at a wet market. Why has the CCP not closed down these markets which very clearly pose a threat to the health of the entire world?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ux5lLIdwohc

China also received considerable criticism back then regarding their lack of transparency. It now appears that the CCP may have been aware of what was happening in Wuhan in early December. A delay which allowed many to travel from Wuhan to other places both in and out of China.

No, I do not think China has done an "excellent job" of containing 2019-nCoV at all. And I think it's safe to say that nearly everyone in Wuhan don't think so either.

RedMango

Dr. Francis Boyle is perhaps best known for authoring the Biological Weapons Act. In an explosive interview with Geopolitics and Empire, Dr. Boyle reveals that the coronavirus now circulating in the wild, exploding as a pandemic, is indeed an “offensive biological warfare weapon.”

In this eye-opening interview, probably soon to be banned by YouTube, Dr. Boyle plainly confirms that the coronavirus is a biological weapon system which escaped the Wuhan BSL-4 laboratory and broke containment in the local population, spreading uncontrollably.

https://youtu.be/TsyujjitOFM

Sounds a tad B-movie-ish as conspiracies go.

As far as virus being a weapon, well, it makes people sick but kills roughly 2%. Sure it costs a lot to contain it and clean up but this UTTERLY FAILS as an offensive weapon because IF one fails to close their country up tighter than a submarine about to dive, you'll get it too not to mention EVERYONE will know it was you when you preemptively slam the doors shut. Then again if it is true, Karmavirus as I mentioned before for other reasons would still work as a fitting name. China maybe shortsighted in many ways but they couldn't be that stupid.

Block China. Quarantine everyone who tests positive.

Too late. The virus has been going around already along time ago even before any ban from any country, some probably dismissing it as a common cold or flu. Two people were infected in Nara even before we have heard of the virus.

I heard one of my co-workers say this morning "it's about time Japan blocked entry to the country to all non-Japanese to keep us safe"! Ignorance of the highest level but I couldn't be bothered to get into an argument.

-barn door horse

umbrellaToday  02:24 pm JST

I heard one of my co-workers say this morning "it's about time Japan blocked entry to the country to all non-Japanese to keep us safe"! Ignorance of the highest level but I couldn't be bothered to get into an argument.

That idiot should go to another country right now where he'll be mistaken for Chinese and treated in a manner that will teach him what prejudice is like on the receiving end.

The sky is falling. The stats are o low in numbers. Move on and just live.

Tokyo Engr,the pneumonia vaccine will give elderly protection ,from viral and bacteria pneumonia, pneumonia is the disease most victim succumb too, I am not a doctor Google Pneumonia Vaccine