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ohara
Its time to fiddle the numbers more.
Triring
More or less half of these confirmed patients are attributed to the night clubs in the Kabukicho and Ikebukuro district.
Ego Sum Lux Mundi
I know someone, in his 40s, who was diagnosed with CV-19 back in May and was one of the so-called "mild" cases who "only" needed a week in hospital. Two months later and he basically has the cardiovascular system of an 80 year old man: can only climb stairs very slowly and his soon out of breath after even slight physical exertion. He is hoping the damage to his heart and lungs isn't permanent.
You so don't want to catch this disease, even a mild dose.
Cricky
Phewww luckily the government no longer uses numerical, quantified measures. It's now down to the vibe, and their vibe is OK. So we should be sweet.
Toshihiro
with recent news claiming that the CV-19 is now airborne, governments around the world (especially Tokyo) should better reconsider their gameplan on how to handle this. As what Ego above me said, you really shouldn't take this virus lightly, you don't want to take that risk
Vinke
@Triring
Yes, so...? That's because that's where they're doing targeted testing. If they tested say, in your neighbourhood, they'd find the cases there.
Vince Black
Please, please, report In a few weeks on how the 100 or so people who have got it now Are fine.
It’s absolutely shameful the way the media is sensationalizing all this. And people are lapping it up
memoryfix
Dear Media
Thanks for trying to scare everybody. But it might be interesting to note: Nobody’s dying!
carpslidy
July
Number of corona deaths ONE
June average 2 deaths per day.
Of course this is bearly mentioned.
If car accidents were reported like corona we'd have the same people demanding cars were banned.
Michael Machida
What is the Crayola color code for 102 cases of COVID-19? Does anyone know? Does anyone have the color code chart yet?
kyronstavic
Judging from some of the comments above and elsewhere online, it seems that more and more people are developing a healthy sense of skepticism towards the official lines coming from the media and governments, based on the counts of infected people vs those showing symptoms/seriously ill/deceased.
I wonder why...?
Vinke
tachycardia
shortness of breath
extreme fatigue
joint pain
muscle pain
dizziness
back pain
rib pain
diarrhea and other GI symptoms
nausea
rashes
ringing of the ears...symptoms of patients "recovered" from covid-19, lasting for weeks or months. Sound pleasant? I didn't think so. But hey, as "there aren't that many deaths" and "it's just flu" all of these symptoms are a-ok, I guess.
Leo
Its not bad compared to the US.
carpslidy
@vinke
We all get corona is unpleasant, the question is it unpleasant enough to warrant this kind of panic.
The answer in Japan at least is no.
By the way
concentration or memory problems
sore throat
headache
swollen lymph nodes
unexplained muscle or joint pain
symptoms of patients "recovered" from influenza.
n1k1
@Vinke if I recall correctly for @Yubaru down in Okinawa the symptoms above also describe a hangover. Long lasting also chronic and last years and years.
"it is just flue" .. well in all fairness it depends on the grading system for 65+ the numbers point to a level higher then influenza for 40- I don't know maybe not even that a "nasty cold" . For 20- not even a cold.
The Avenger
Because we don’t know and completely understand this virus, it’s a good idea to take airborne precautions.
Christopher Glen
Agreed. It’s being blown a little out of proportion
memoryfix
n1k1. Even elderly mostly beat it. Main thing is if it links up with an underlying condition from what info I gather.
By the way, how about we put cancer deaths in Japan per day? Or even diagnosed cancer cases? I mean, if people want to get morbid about something. Then they’ll see just how small the COVID incidence really is.
Anthony 55
A virus doesn’t want to kill its host. Viruses want to keep their host alive to propagate itself. As long as the host is coughing and discharging viral particles , the virus is happy, assuming that a virus can indeed be happy. Mankind has coexisted with viruses for eons, we are not going to ‘defeat’ this latest strain. I wouldn’t assume that a vaccine will cone along and magically make Covid disappear, at this point in time there exists no vaccines fir any of the coronal strains. Like it or we will be living with Covid 19 for a ling time.
David Wilson
Northernlife, They are 2 different people of the same age, you cannot compare the age comparison with the disease . Their bodies are different and how they react to the disease is based on how their bodies react to it.
That being said they are both to young to be goinf through this as is everyone who has contracted this nasty disease. My heart goes out to all suffering at this time. Stay safe and please do the right thing by yourself and others.
Monty
These news are getting bored!
spinningplates
There seems to be a group of really scared people in denial, who don't live in Tokyo, about the possibilities for long term illness demonstrated by Covid 19, and a larger group of people aware of the need for caution.
Unfortunately both teams are flanked by those who 'must' gather socially and drink and eat together, on one side, and those who simply refuse/ignore mask etiquette on the other.
As such by default we have chosen the long road of financial pain, so regardless of your point of view we are stuck now for a long, financially painful ride.
It's like we are living in a Bill Burr joke.
Oxycodin
I think had all these symptoms back in March for like two to three weeks with a mild fever but could never tell if this was because of Covid-19 or is because I was working 120 hours of over time in a month. No way to get tested.
Oxycodin
Is this what we call natural selection in Darwinism?
mmwkdw
This is going to drag on for months...
i@n
Admittedly I have not been reading much.
Still, except for this one particular line trying to drum up concern, I haven't seen any other indication of a growing concern over a second wave, yet.
Vinke
@carpslidy
It's not about "panicking", but being responsible and doing the right thing. Because of the nay-sayers ignore pretty much everything, even science, the ones being responsible have to be extra cautious.
Oh, and by the way - I had a really bad influenza last year, and yes, I had those symptoms DURING the influenza, not many months AFTER it, like covid-19 patients do.
carpslidy
There is a difference between being responsible and calling for a lockdown and pausing daily life.
I agree wear a mask and practice good hygiene.
Austin Rogers
I love all the comments each day from the same people saying "well no one's dying, stop trying to scare us", but God forbid you or your family member get it. You'll sing a different tune.
carpslidy
@austin rogers
Of course I would be more concerned if a family member died from the virus but seeing as there are less than a thousand deaths the odds of that happening are thankfully very low.
Furthermore as the vast majority of cases make a full recovery unless a sick, elderly or obese family member caught the virus I would expect a full recovery.
Again wear a mask and wash your hands that's enough.
Strangerland
That’s not what I’ve been reading that the doctors are saying. I read that the virus is leaving long-term damage on the bodies of people who have caught it.
carpslidy
Clearly it is too early to say what the long term effects are though the majority of cases point to a full recovery.
Unfortunatly as with any illness there are those who have lasting side effects.
Strangerland
People are saying that on both sides. Nothing can be believed
Although I'll believe the scientists myself, and rest well.
Vinke
Hey nay-sayers and "it's just a flu" gang, here's something to read tonight:
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/jul/06/coronavirus-covid-19-mild-symptoms-who?fbclid=IwAR0a4L7Xr0b1j0KknAgAlFH9LxTVht8Su_hYpNNCqeCAPrVGzcEdXXbpxfw
*" As virologists race to understand the biomechanics of Sars-CoV-2, *one thing is becoming increasingly clear: even “mild” cases can be more complicated, dangerous and harder to shake than many first thought.
*Throughout the pandemic, a notion has persevered that people who have “mild” cases of Covid-19 and do not require an ICU stay or the use of a ventilator are spared from serious health repercussions. -- This kind of rhetoric would lead you to believe that the ordeal of “mildly infected” patients ends within two weeks of becoming ill, at which point they recover and everything goes back to normal. While that may be the case for some people who get Covid-19, emerging medical research as well as anecdotal evidence from recovery support groups suggest that many survivors of “mild” Covid-19 are not so lucky. They experience lasting side-effects, and doctors are still trying to understand the ramifications. Some of these side effects can be fatal. According to Dr Christopher Kellner, a professor of neurosurgery at Mount Sinai hospital in New York, “mild” cases of Covid-19 in which the patient was not hospitalized for the virus have been linked to blood clotting and severe strokes in people as young as 30.*
*Another troubling phenomenon now coming into focus is that of “long-haul” Covid-19 sufferers – people whose experience of the illness has lasted months. For a Dutch report published earlier this month, researchers surveyed 1,622 Covid-19 patients with an average age of 53, who reported a number of enduring symptoms, including intense fatigue (88%) persistent shortness of breath (75%) and chest pressure (45%). Ninety-one per cent of the patients weren’t hospitalized, suggesting they suffered these side-effects despite their cases of Covid-19 qualifying as “mild”. While 85% of the surveyed patients considered themselves generally healthy before having Covid-19, *only 6% still did so one month or more after getting the virus."
Luddite
Statistics just released in the U.K. show that after testing members of randomly selected households, 80% of those with the virus had no symptoms
It hasn’t gone away, don’t be complacent.