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This article totally biased, with not even a hint of culpability on the part of the Navy.

Consider the following;

Japanese investigators have interviewed the Filipino crew of the 222-meter cargo ship, while the U.S. authorities are also probing the deadly crash.

Ok, so why haven't Japanese investigators interviewed any of the crew of the Naval ship?

The much-larger cargo ship's crew -- who were not injured -- apparently took nearly an hour to report the collision.

Ok, and what time did the Navy ship report the collision? And why isn't that mentioned in the article?

Authorities are also investigating why the cargo ship made a sudden turn at about 1.30 a.m., and a sharp turn after it reported the accident around 2:20 a.m.

Ok, and none of the movements of the Navy ship are to be investigated, let alone even mentioned in the article.

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I want Inada Japan's Defense Minister will attend the memorial ceremony. It is more important than she attends at the ceremony of Yasukuni.

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RIP to the young men who gave their lives in service to their country.

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The status of forces agreement allows the US Military to investigate such incidents. This shows how fragile warships can be. The actions of the merchant ship seem very suspect with the unusual turns.

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The actions of the merchant ship seem very suspect with the unusual turns.

Nothing unusual about the path of the container ship once you realize that the accident did in fact occur at 13:30.

The container ship was cruising on it's designated course when struck the Navy ship at 13:30, setting it off course, but barely jarring the ship because of the huge weight advantage of the container ship.

The container ship crew finally realize several irregularities by 14:00 and decide to double back to check if they hit something. Hence the first U-turn.

The container ship arrives at the accident scene at 14:20 and contacts the Navy vessel, confirming that an accident did indeed occur.

The container ship radios that they will inform the Coast Guard. The Navy realizes that they must now also inform the Coast Guard since their cover is blown. Hence both ships reported the accident an hour late.

The Navy ship refuses help and the container ship U-turns back (2nd U-turn) onto it's original heading.

The Navy knows the accident happened at 13:30 but keeps insisting in its “official” records that the accident happened at 14:20, so as not to incriminate themselves.

Questions?

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Burning Bush

Questions?

No questions whatsoever! Who needs an official or thorough investigation now since you miraculously have all of the facts already! This is excellent! This means that we won't have to endure any more of your unreasonable demands for a complete accident investigation to be completed and made public in the first few days or weeks after a major international maritime accident right? Right?

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Sad day for the families and friends of the deceased sailors.

The USS Fitzgerald may not have caused the collision but should have been able to quickly avoid the container ship. There should been three watchmen with binoculars on the port and starboard sides and the stern. The captain would be woken if any ship comes within 4,000 meters and on the bridge.

Probably the container ship was on automatic pilot which might explain the strange changes in course and whoever was in the bridge was asleep or not paying attention.

Burning Bush or most likely the full investigation will reveal actually what happened and at that time bring enclosure to the families of the deceased sailors.

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Much ambiguity in this matter, contradictory statements. Seven people died. Sailors do not have an easy life and are additionally exposed to death in mysterious circumstances. An hour had taken them to report "accident" long unless there was a fight on the ship with someone very dangerous...Very sad story...Regard kindly..

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Who needs an official or thorough investigation

I'm all for an investigation.

But it's been a week already, and they still can't agree on the time of the accident. Was it 13:30 or 14:20?

Is that too much to ask of the investigators?

How many months is reasonable to wait on that?

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Burning Bush

But it's been a week already, and they still can't agree on the time of the accident.

Please inform us of any major maritime accident which was able to even start an investigation let alone complete one, within the same week?

Your demands are unrealistic but that does not prevent you from repeatedly making them.

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Your demands are unrealistic

Unrealistic?

Just asking for clarity on the time is unrealistic?

It's the 21 century, there are probably over a thousand computers on the Naval ship, even after 1 week, the Japanese Coast Guard says 13:30 and the US Navy says 14:20.

Maybe the math is too difficult for you but that is a full 50 minutes.

If anything, asking someone to accept that discrepancy without an explanation is unrealistic.

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Burning Bush

what makes you believe you are entitled to know anything. I would hope that no information is released until after a full investigation is complete and the families of the deceased notified before its made public. What puts you at the head of the line?

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what makes you believe you are entitled to know anything.

Since 7 of our fellow humans were killed whilst being entrusted to a billion dollar system that taxpayers paid for, I think the public has a right to know why and how that system failed them.

I would hope that no information is released 

Your hope is in vain, the Japanese Coast Guard is already releasing details to the Japanese media about their investigation. Check NHK.

The container ship had right of way.

Not a peep yet from the US Navy, apparently they're still trying to figure out the difference between the little hand and the big hand on a clock.

Busted.

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Burning Bush

Since 7 of our fellow humans were killed whilst being entrusted to a billion dollar system that taxpayers paid for, I think the public has a right to know why and how that system failed them.

That line of reason from you will never stand for the simple fact that you have stated numerous times your opposition and hatred toward Amercia and I also guess you are not an American or Japanese taxpayer.

The Japanese Coast Guard have not released any information so far.

Sorry not bushed, still wait for the final report.

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The Japanese Coast Guard have not released any information so far.

It's on the main page of NHK news. Point and click.

The Japanese Coast Guard is holding regular press conferences to keep the public updated.

In other news, CNN just corroborated my assessment of the incident.

http://edition.cnn.com/2017/06/22/politics/uss-fitzgerald-investigation-update/index.html

All the "unusual" movements of the container ship are merely them doubling back to find out what got in their way.

More over the CNN article clearly states that the super advanced AEGIS system was responsible for tracking surface ships, yet no explanation yet as to why it completely failed to do so.

The Navy is not at fault narrative is in total collapse.

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Burning Bush

Then you have all the info you need then? So move on.

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I have no idea how this turned into a "War of Words" between Burning Bush and other JapanToday readers, but I do know two things:

The collision between the US Naval vessel and the commercial ship was a serious incident resulting in the unfortunate loss of seven Naval personnel;

The information that is being reported from various sides simply does not make sense.

Considering this, the analysis described by Burning Bush in his second comment seem to be the only explanation that fits the facts as we know them now.

To amplify this, I think that between the time of the actual impact "barely jarring the ship" and "the container ship crew finally realize several irregularities" and turned around, the crew of the container ship must have wondered about the scraping noise, checked the ship and found the huge gashes in the bow.

Whether they were in communication with the Fitzgerald before, during or after this collision is one of the things the crews of both ships do not want to comment on, to cover their stern quarters. Hence the "stern-walling" over the time of the incident.

I have many friends in the US Navy, thankfully not among the 7, RIP. For them, and to ensure this does not happen again, we want to know what really happened.

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thank you burning bush.

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Burning Bush's comments would be more acceptable if I thought they were genuine and real but on the back of so many of his anti American comments I believe its another attack against a country he actually hates.

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 I believe its another attack against a country he actually hates.

You "believe"

Let me openly state that I have the utmost admiration for the Constitution of the United States and the decent people within that country who live by the principles enshrined in that constitution.

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