Virus vaccination drill conducted in Kawasaki

On the telly they said they can do 280 people a day...

If that is the case, I expect the country to be herd immune by 2159.

What a joke. Come on Japan, do something for real already. Any respect for this country I once had simply cannot be regained.

open and close depending on vaccine supplies

So, closed until May or June?

Mock vaccination...perhaps this is to follow on from mock testing, mock viral tracing and mock hospitalisation. The Japanese government, with only 1500 tests in Tokyo yesterday has failed to carry out any of the above comprehensively so this is a logical next step.

I think a certain lord of the sit ups needs to draft a mock resignation letter.

They needed a drill for this? Brings WW2 images of Japan to mind. A drill for everything!

why do they have to practice giving shots? They can do simple math and figure out how many people they can inject a day? lol. Talk about milking a situation..Japan is the ONLY country to do a "mock" vacination. What happens next? Do they submit their results to a panel who will review the results before submitting them to the panel of the panel of experts? I am sure this is a 5 year plan just like everything else!

They did a “mock”vaccination to highlight any logistical problems BEFORE the real event.

Just like they do for school sports days, Olympic opening ceremonies and other events.

Kawasaki was shown here but I’m sure other authorities have also done the same. I know for sure that Chiba odd it last week to no fanfare.

When there aren’t any vaccinations to be had then just do a drill....

Other countries already into the millions of people vaccinated (some tens of millions). Japan doing pretend drills, says it all really.

I saw this on TV this morning, I couldn't stop laughing!!! This is Japan!!!

Maybe Japan should do a mock Olympics too.

Well you cry babies, what do you think would happen if these vaccination places said “we’re open for business, come at your own leisure!”. Mayhem would ensue and then you people would whinge as well. I think this is the only proper manner of ensuring orderly and swift proceedings in a congested environment. And even people with half a brain would understand that there will be many places like the one in Kawasaki.

Yep, this is risk adverse Japan. An army of workers and volunteers need to set up partitions, complete with signs, seating, and anti-corona measures all perfectly aligned, according to a detailed paper-based manual that had to be approved by multiple committees and stamped with much debate whether partitions should be spaced 90cm or metre apart. This is why 80% of prefectures in japan have said that it will be impossible to undertake the vaccination programme when the vaccines arrive.

Imagine all the workers and staff that are going to be required. On site, there will be four medical workers per person being vaccinated, one to verify the person is entitled to be vaccinated and the name perfectly matches the application database, one to keep watch, "just in case anything goes wrong", one to administer the vaccine, and one to keep a report of proceedings. The results will then be written down, calibrated at the end of each day, faxed back to headquarters. Not to mention the army of support at each site.

I didn't laugh when I saw it, I wept.

These drills can be simulated on a computer for sure but as everyone knows, Japan does not like chaos. Important to simulate for the logistics and make sure there is enough staff in each venue.

We are talking about vaccination, 2 shots for 128 millions over a few months. It is not like the flu vaccine that what, 30% of the population is doing

And I am sure Japan does not want to see hundreds waiting in lines. Remember how it was last year when masks and toilet papers were not found. Some waking up early to be in line hours before a shop opening

All these mock drills be it this, earthquake, plane crash, etc...are a joke in most countries.

Many years back when I was working as a paramedic in search and rescue we would have supposed plane crash drills

Response times were always great, of course all those in charge knew in advance, we knew something was up as suddenly effetives were moved up in odd places near the airport where few would normally be.

Basically they know in advance how many people will be there, they decided in advance how many will have mock reactions to the vaccine everyone knows their role it is all theatre and nothing left to chance.

Waste of time and money.

Pathetic

Well done Japan, and I know for sure once Japan gets going, there is NO stop in it. Unlike others were it's a different excuse every single day.

Well as I said before. Someone we know on the national government involved in the vaccine process told us the plan is to only do medical staff a few high risk in the public then hold off vaccination until 80 to 90% of the vaccine supply is actually in stock then use the existing regular medical system of local doctors and hospitals to vaccinate the general population all at once in the same way they do for influenza.

The thinking is that by having all the stock in place before starting they can avoid doing like the above, avoid what is now happening in Europe and North America with shortages.

He said in normal years using local doctors Japan vaccinates between 60 and 80 million in 2 to 3 months so they think with a little more effort they can do the whole country in the same time if the full supply is in place.

So this was his explanation as to why the long delay before starting.

I don't know if what he is saying is true and I am not sure I agree with the idea but I do know his position and if anyone knows he does but again politics and public pressure could change everything overnight.

Just watching on TV the process, could they make it more complicated?, there are arrows pointing all over the place, (it's just a jab!) But apparently that requires several steps in the right order to achieve.

Seems other countries could have used a simulation like this.

@Cricky

Agree.

I said this before, seeing Japan will not start until spring and in most places it isn't really that cold.

All they need is set up near or on a shotengai walk by windows (with the number of businesses that have closed it isn't that hard to find.) One is where people line up to drop off their info get a slip of approval, move down the street to the next window get the jab move walk to the park ( most have small parks nearby) seats available for the one hour observation, no problems go home. Ambulance and a few medical personnel on site in the rare case of a reaction.

Simple, fast, effective and outside.

Basically a Japanese adaptation of the north America drive through vaccination.

I don't know if what he is saying is true and I am not sure I agree with the idea 

Sounds like a sound plan

The US is setting up "mega sites" at stadiums, etc, where people arrive in the safety of their cars and get the shot. Is Japan doing this in the rural regions? Crowding large numbers of people together doesn't seem the best approach.

From what Antiquesaving posted above Japan will use the local clinics, the usual.

Hard to come up with anything more efficient than that

Hmm I thought conducting a drill or a test run before the main event was normal and reasonable..? Judging by the comments here, preparing for something in advance appears to be a major failure. Go figure I guess..

"Japan is the ONLY country to do a "mock" vacination."

That is correct and it will be the only country to avoid the problems that are now occurring in the west. For example:

1) Philadelphia let ‘college kids’ distribute vaccines. The result was a ‘disaster,’ volunteers say.

Seniors were left in tears after finding that appointments they’d made through a bungled sign-up form wouldn’t be honored

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/01/27/philly-fighting-covid-vaccine/

2) Epic fail: Why Johnson County left seniors waiting in the cold for COVID vaccine shots

https://www.kansascity.com/opinion/editorials/article248804290.html

It does not look like the west did any thinking.

@JeffLee

This isn't the USA, Japan doesn't have mega stadiums even less in rural areas, the Japanese don't have 2, 3, 4 card per family.

So where and how would that work?

Set up in a farmer's field?

I sometimes wonder if people actually know how it is in Japan and how people live.

North America is North America, cars gist malls, stadiums with parking lots on flat open areas.

Japan small compact with tiny malls stadiums near stations and compact multi level parking lots.

Japan must show that they are actually working and doing something. It does not need to make any sense at all. It does not have to have any real effectiveness. This is a great idea and this is the culture of Japan. Show that you are working with hand movements and gestures. This article is amazing and we all need to learn from this event to assist with the real problem later. Cheers to JT for running this informative and intelligent article. Thank you! ; ^ 0

Japan is the ONLY country to do a "mock" vacination

No, the USA, UK, Canada, France Germany, etc..

All had what they called dry run throughs. Which is the same as a mock vaccination.

Anyone that watches international news should have seen this.

@Redbear

Actually many places did.

Note this in the article

around 30 patients per hour and would open and close depending on vaccine supplies

Everything you pointed to was precisely because of supply problems.

This mock run is exactly the same. If they get their supply on time then everything works out if they don't then they will need to close and those with appointments will have to wait.

Nothing different than in every other country.

Does seem that the mods were right. People here don't like facts especially if they show Japan isn't doing anything different than the west has done or that what is good or possible in America isn't an option in Japan.

Guess the western superiority idea needs regular boosting.

Why not use the same facilities, doctors and nurses they use for the yearly health examination?

If they can take blood samples from thousands of people a day they can also administer vaccines to thousands of people a day.

I don't think this is a bad idea.

However, I question whether a country that cannot do many Covid-19 tests on a weekend or national holiday can vaccinate its population quickly based on a 4.5 day week. There are only 18 working days in May 2021 for example.

The mock vaccination is a correct method but not on 28 January 2021.

13 months after the pandemic started, and 6 months after more or less vaccine storing conditions and vaccination process is clear for the world. This is too late.

@pepelepew

A ward rep in my area where the residents association recently had an update said that was part of the planing at least in this ward.

Despite the negative Nellie's down votes that seem so present, Japan isn't dumb, it every year succeeds in vaccinating 60 to 80 million in a 2 to 3 months period for influenza so despite the japan bashing it may not be the disaster so many here seem to believe it will be or seem to want.

@RickyC

My parents in Canada still have no idea when they will get the vaccine they are in there 80s, my cousin in the USA also in his 80s no idea, same for elderly relative in France.

Even my uncle living in Florida got an appointment only for it to be cancelled 3 times because of vaccine shortage.

Many countries came out with great big plans told their population "this is how it is going to go" only to find that the reality of supply and shortages made it all unrealistic.

Look at the EU and USA both said they have ordered x amount more vaccine, up to now they haven't gotten what they first ordered.

Governments can say what they want or what they think the public wants to hear but unless the supply is available it means nothing and right now the supply isn't there.

AntiquesavingToday  10:39 am JST

@RickyC

My parents in Canada still have no idea when they will get the vaccine they are in there 80s, my cousin in the USA also in his 80s no idea, same for elderly relative in France.

Even my uncle living in Florida got an appointment only for it to be cancelled 3 times because of vaccine shortage.

Many countries came out with great big plans told their population "this is how it is going to go" only to find that the reality of supply and shortages made it all unrealistic.

Look at the EU and USA both said they have ordered x amount more vaccine, up to now they haven't gotten what they first ordered.

Governments can say what they want or what they think the public wants to hear but unless the supply is available it means nothing and right now the supply isn't there.

I am sorry to hear that you have your own family-related concerns about the schedule back home.

In my life, I never like to compare myself or organizations linked to me, with people or associations worse than me, philosophically, I don't think that it's not a good inspiration to improve your life in a better way.

My dad in Nurnberg has a fixed schedule of 5th April 2021 Monday, and mom although it is not pinpoint as my father due to age difference, has a schedule to have vaccine on the second week of May.

Half of my company's staff has been already vaccinated in UAE.

Hope to see same clarity as soon as possible, for your parents in Canada, relatives in USA and France* and for us in Japan.

*France is the worst performer in EU for vaccination planning, even worse than the candidate members, Croatia and Turkey.

Why not use the same facilities, doctors and nurses they use for the yearly health examination?

If they can take blood samples from thousands of people a day they can also administer vaccines to thousands of people a day.

As posted by Antiquesaving, the vaccines will be coursed thru the usual way, local clinics and hospitals.

So most people will already have medical records, appointment system aready in place, delivery of vaccines will be just to the usual places , no confusions as to where to go etc etc.

Basically all that is needed now which is the biggest most important most difficult hurdle would bebthe supply of vaccines.

One delivered and distributed then thousands of clinics and hospitals will be vaccinating at the same time.

maybe a computer data base? No need for paper! Might speed things along. Then fax the print out to relevant authorities. Who can stamp the papers and put into a cardboard box. Everyone is happy.

Nurses led yellow-vest clad volunteers into booths for mock injections and then left them in a waiting area for 30 minutes to check for allergic reactions.

This nothing more than a fluffy news void filler. All fluff and no substance.

The PR cronies in the government know that unless they start filling the news cycle with stories that make it look like the authorities are doing something . . . . . something else will fill the void.

Who can stamp the papers

I guess many people on this forum do not deal on a daily basis with the J administration and administrative process, but since the announcement to get away from hankos, many administrative forms do not require hanko anymore.

JT experts on here have spoken. Japan will fail to Covid19!

Any day now.... Any day....

I note the Japan bathers are’t going back to the “safety” and “superb vaccination organisation” in their home countries.

My home country, the UK, with half the population had MORE deaths from covid last week than Japan in a year.

Japan’s response has been far from perfect but a reasonable 7 out of 10.

My home country, the UK, with half the population had MORE deaths from covid last week than Japan in a year.

Half of the U.K. deaths from Covid have been since November, due to the more virulent and more deadly new variant. It also seems to be responsible for numbers going up in many other countries, The new strains also have a different set of symptoms. A whole new set of challenges.

Doing a drill for vaccination is perfectly justified and a positive development. The problem is that they are doing the whole thing blindly and it may have nothing to do with what will happen when (if) the vaccination programs begin.

It will not be the same if the local government has to record 5 sets of the immunization information while doing it, (one in a digital database, two very different formats for emailing and 3 for faxing to the respective government officials), it would also be very different if they receive lots of a thousand doses every day or a million to be used by the end of the month, if they have to do the screening at the site or if only they need to check people coming by appointment, Is is going to be necessary to juggle with the different health insurance systems? will people have a new document to keep? how about privacy concerns? what if someone comes with a fever?

@virusrex

Your explanation is far to logical and how much of the developed countries are proceeding and how Japan will probably also proceed.

Far to factual and logic therefore you will receive at least a dozen down votes.

If it is logical and doesn't somehow criticise Japan then here it is a down vote comments or at least that has been the case on this day.

Thank you to the 13 that made my point.

A drill,after that do they need some more meetings to give the green light?

Its really telling how virusex, the only professional in viruses on this board gets 13 - votes.

But hey, experts? What do they know?

Half of the U.K. deaths from Covid have been since November, due to the more virulent and more deadly new variant. It also seems to be responsible for numbers going up in many other countries, The new strains also have a different set of symptoms. A whole new set of challenges.

Luddite, I have no idea where you got those figures from because they are not accurate.

There have been two peaks march to may and October to present. June to September was pretty quiet. The new variant has not been a major factor. The “need” to have a normal Christmas is the major factor for the Jump at the year end.

Did all the negative Nellie's miss the UK, USA, etc... Vaccination dry runs they did before they actually started vaccinations?

Obviously you all must have. I watched on BBC as they prepared to roll out the vaccine as they showed Dry runs (AKA mock) vaccination in London, Wales, etc..

I also watch the same thing on multiple USA news channels showing the dry runs in the parking lots of stadiums, etc...in several USA states.

But hey let's no let facts get in the way, lets all just pile on the negative towards Japan.

Luddite, I have no idea where you got those figures from because they are not accurate.

The U.K. government’s daily press briefing.