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… nine women were advised by local intermediary organizations to undergo contraceptive treatment. 

Reminds me of the government’s campaign during the run-up to the 1964 Tokyo Olympics to protect the perceived celibacy of Japanese women.

At that time, the Tokyo Metropolitan Welfare Office established a Women’s Bureau headed by Tsuya Nakano, who described his agency’s efforts as follows: “We were worried because we saw cases in which young ladies of good background accompanied (foreign men), suspecting nothing, to bars or even their hotel rooms. We warned them that they should not cheerfully follow foreign — especially white — men.” An educational film was produced, 75,000 copies of a pamphlet were published, lectures for regional leaders were organized, and officials even stopped by schools to make personal appeals. Popular magazines fretted over the corrupting influence of foreign male sexual desire and emphasized the importance of saying “no” clearly.

29 ( +35 / -6 )

This is sick and abhorrent. A gross violation of human rights. Also, the blatant focus on female trainees being coerced to "undergo contraception treatment" also shines a light on how Japan persistently and continuously heaps all the blame and responsibility on women when it comes to pregnancy and children while letting the men get off scot-free. Did any of the male trainees have to undergo "contraception treatment" and if so, what form did it take because right now, there isn't a male equivalent of The Pill. I'm utterly disgusted by what I've read. This stunt is another reason on a long laundry list of reasons why the trainee program in Japan should be abolished and never see the light of day again.

11 ( +32 / -21 )

Repugnant

29 ( +37 / -8 )

This should be a major scandal. Who came up with this idea to push this?

30 ( +36 / -6 )

@Larr Flint

I feel ashamed by your comment that you point the finger to Japan. It is by organizations involved with the training program (black companies). There are also enough legal companies who are supporting foreigner's.

-2 ( +19 / -21 )

wow. that's pretty low!

if they play their cards right, those workers will win settlements large enough to pay for a lawyer!

19 ( +23 / -4 )

Babies are very welcome in Japan.

-9 ( +3 / -12 )

Purple.....

Did any of the male trainees have to undergo "contraception treatment" and if so, what form did it take because right now, there isn't a male equivalent of The Pill.

Contrary to some modern beliefs, it is still only the female of the species that gets pregnant so it makes perfect sense to offer contraception to the females.

They are coming to Japan to work, not to have children. However, they should not be forced into taking any drugs. But their contract should be terminated on pregnancy.

-5 ( +18 / -23 )

women were advised by local intermediary organizations, which gather trainee candidates and send them to Japan, to undergo contraceptive treatment. 

Many "advise" in Japan equal to mandatory instruction

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foreign trainees' reproductive rights, which allow them to decide whether to have and raise a child, have not been taken seriously under the current system.

Even employee that hold Japanese nationality just won't get proper treatment why expect that non-Japan will have proper treatment?

https://www.tokyoweekender.com/japan-life/fired-for-having-a-baby-victims-of-maternity-harassment-in-japan-speak-out/

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/nov/18/japanese-women-suffer-widespread-maternity-harassment-at-work

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If training is terminated against a trainee's will due to pregnancy or childbirth, their employers and supervising organizations will be subject to disciplinary actions based on the law to protect technical intern trainees.

That's how Japanese law on the paper, while this is the reality. Over and over again.

https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2022/10/12/national/crime-legal/filipino-trainee-lawsuit/

-24 ( +5 / -29 )

Babies are very welcome in Japan.

But pregnancies are not welcome by employer.

-10 ( +19 / -29 )

Xenophobia and prejudice are hard to eradicate without a deep reform of the society from the core.

What we read is deeply sad but honestly not surprising.

Let’s hope that the younger Japanese generations will change such mindset.

-8 ( +21 / -29 )

This is so messed up

16 ( +22 / -6 )

Surely there are already enough scandals in Japan!!!!!

0 ( +9 / -9 )

JT covered this last July. (Good work!)

https://japantoday.com/category/features/kuchikomi/it%27s-a-hard-life-for-lonely-young-foreign-trainees-with-no-one-to-turn-to

It seems most of the fathers are Vietnamese men in Japan.

11 ( +12 / -1 )

And Only Vietnamese Women and Girls get pregnant working in Japan !!

Do Phillipino Women and Girls not get pregnant working in Japan !!!

-4 ( +10 / -14 )

It just keeps getting worse.

9 ( +13 / -4 )

As Albert mentioned, it looks like one of those intermediate black companies in Vietnam had this requirement. Was the Japan side directly involved or not, this is questionable

13 ( +21 / -8 )

One country's withdrawal of the provision of termination equals a woman's rights violation.

Whereas, another country offering contraception treatment is seen as a violation.

To clarify this rather confused article.

A survey of this taken in Vietnam,

56 women replied,

36 were told not to get pregnant while on the internship program.

5 women were offered contraception treatment in Vietnam.

4 declined.

1 took the treatment

4 ( +7 / -3 )

@garymalmgren.

You managed to summarise but miss the main point:

Women were pressured into taking contraception.

This is a disgusting act. Educate , yes, which should include the men as well.

This whole article is pretty much saying that the workers in these programs are going to have the same if not worse issues of the workers on the previous program.

Why? Because they've only changed the name. Typical govt. Chutohanpa

1 ( +10 / -9 )

I can understand that it makes it easier for the government to avoid the consequences, financall and otherwise, of the women getting pregnant, but surely it is immoral to force them to have it!

11 ( +11 / -0 )

There are many aspects of this general problem.

The Japanese government, on paper, provides support for young mothers, even if they are trainees.

It also provides punishments for those black companies of payed slaves outsourcing, sorry, Recruiting and Outsourcing Companies for those kind of malicious practices. However, the government NEVER enforce the law, never enforce those rules on those companies, it only provides callous small fines and pathetic recommendations to them, without taking any other actions.

On other hand, the trainees need to be more responsible, both girls and boys. They came to Japan (hopefully) by their own will, so they need to be smarter than that, if they want to find a good place to work in the xenophobic and passive racist Japanese work market and into the Japanese System. They need to remember that for the Japanese companies, they are nothing except some statistics on paper, numbers that can be easily replaced without a second thought.

-8 ( +7 / -15 )

What’s next? Mandatory sterilization? If this demand is not a breech of human rights I don’t know what it is. Keep up the good work Japan. Now everybody will hate your human rights stance.

-1 ( +13 / -14 )

It seems most of the fathers are Vietnamese men in Japan.

So? Does it really make any difference?

12 ( +18 / -6 )

It seems most of the fathers are Vietnamese men in Japan.

So? Does it really make any difference?

….

Of course it does.

Having a child with a Japanese national gives many types of benefits to the mother.

The right to remain upon divorce and more.

Trainees are being bound by ‘advice’ which is illegal.

In short, they are being deceived and lied to.

The Japanese government must provide more oversight to prevent abuse as in this case.

Being seen as a temporary worker with less rights than those accorded to the nationals in Japan is sickeningly racist and wrong.

Surely, Japan has learned from the its past mistakes about the treatment of foreigners under its control?

Vietnamese citizens should assess their foreign employment options carefully and aim for those countries more respectful of human rights.

-6 ( +8 / -14 )

Vietnamese trainees told to undergo contraception to work in Japan.

What!!!!!!!

1 ( +8 / -7 )

And not mentioned is that young Vietnamese are lining up in their thousands to get the chance to work in Japan.

-4 ( +12 / -16 )

These trainees are obviously not the cleverest. Haven't they hard of the internet? Could easily contact trainees / support groups in already in Japan for advice etc following "advice" from intermediaries.

The world over, intermediaries are such scamming parasites. They need to be abolished. Actually the whole system needs urgent reform actually, from top to bottom.

-3 ( +5 / -8 )

And not mentioned is that young Vietnamese are lining up in their thousands to get the chance to work in Japan.

No, they're not.

https://japantoday.com/category/features/kuchikomi/just-when-it-needs-more-of-them-will-foreign-workers-shun-japan

1 ( +14 / -13 )

How is it that young Vietnamese are coming to Japan in droves when they can get better paying jobs in the U.S., Europe or Australia? As for deportation of foreign workers who have gotten pregnant, Singapore has been doing this for decades.

8 ( +13 / -5 )

How SICK and SAD.

What's next ? Sterilization?

0 ( +7 / -7 )

""based on instructions by organizations involved in a Japan internship program""

These is one of the largest SCAMS and SCAMMERS ring operating in bright daylight.

Shame on the government for allowing these scammers to continue their operations and make money off the backs of the needy and unfortunates.

8 ( +8 / -0 )

Human rights violation? Japan Inc.'s not selling very well globally these days as such policy corruption and greed runs deep, hardly shared global values.

Consider Japan is just over 3% of global GDP and shrinking fast and that's with massive Govt. Deficit spending, over half of Govt. spending either increased debt or debt service, so hardly 'real' GDP.

Time for a course correction, starts with a GOOD Brand.

4 ( +6 / -2 )

A country facing a major baby shortage . . . Maybe Japan should re-think a few things.

5 ( +8 / -3 )

Well, for what it is worth, Singapore is considered something of a model for migrant workers and it routinely cancels the contracts of female workers who become pregnant, such that there is a thriving business of abortions on nearby Indonesian isles.

-5 ( +4 / -9 )

How about the Japanese managers, farmers and coworkers of these Vietnamese female "trainees" are required to undergo vasectomies before the trainees commence work?

Make it equal and all.

4 ( +7 / -3 )

If one actually reads this article, nobody is being forced to use contraception. Which by the way is quite common all over the world and is not the equivalent of sterilization.

5 ( +14 / -9 )

OssanAmericaToday 12:27 pm JST

If one actually reads this article, nobody is being forced to use contraception. Which by the way is quite common all over the world and is not the equivalent of sterilization.

Yeah but what business does anyone have suggesting contraception without being asked?

0 ( +8 / -8 )

I understand that this is a hot volatile subject for most people here. You're upset and I understand that. However, I think it's necessary to remind ourselves whose country this is.

Where are we? Japan. Is this our country to bring our ideas and change it? NO. Should we respect their wishes and try to follow the culture here? Of course!

If these Vietnamese women did not feel comfortable with the conditions mandated to them to be accepted into the program, then they should have stayed home. No one is entitled to have access to this country.

Furthermore, most people here assume it was the Japanese man who asked these women to use contraception. What if it was a Japanese woman who asked them? Don't be mind-blown now. It does compute.

Anyway, we all have to play by the rules. If the rules or conditions are there for that particular VISA or training program, then that's what they have to follow. I'm sure there were so many points that were not covered in this or previous articles as to why such conditions were set in place.

P.S: I'm sure if men were asked to do the same thing, we would happily comply with the law.

-2 ( +8 / -10 )

They are coming to Japan to work, not to have children. However, they should not be forced into taking any drugs. But their contract should be terminated on pregnancy.

So male trainees' contracts should also be terminated if they get someone pregnant then? Since they are also in Japan to work and not make babies.

3 ( +6 / -3 )

The article fails to mention how often this happens. 10% of Vietnamese interns get pregnant? 40%? I'm going to guess that it doesn't happen so often. If so, why even use a vile, repugnant action. Probably for racist reasons. If it does happen a lot, then just cancel the program rather than use a vile, repugnant action.

-5 ( +2 / -7 )

NCIS returns...

No, they're not.

Oh yes they are. More than 60 Vietnamese applicants for every opening.

Other fields may be different but literally thousands of young Vietnamese are wanting to work in Japan.

3 ( +11 / -8 )

Purple...

So male trainees' contracts should also be terminated if they get someone pregnant then? Since they are also in Japan to work and not make babies.

No, because the men will not be taking time off to give birth.

Did you skip biology class?

-3 ( +8 / -11 )

Contrary to some modern beliefs, it is still only the female of the species that gets pregnant so it makes perfect sense to offer contraception to the females.

@Mr Kipling seems to believe in immaculate conception. Male and female trainees should be treated equally in their contracts.

5 ( +6 / -1 )

The article does not implicate the Japanese government or suggest Japanese companies were involved in this deplorable practice. Rather, intermediaries or brokers in Vietnam pressured the female trainees to obtain birth control. The relevant Japanese:

技能実習生として来日したベトナム人女性9人が、母国で採用の仲介を担う「送り出し機関」から避妊処置を勧められ...

8 ( +10 / -2 )

Where do these ‘trainees’ hang out?

(asking for a friend)

-3 ( +3 / -6 )

This is Middle East levels of migrant abuse.

-1 ( +7 / -8 )

Don' t come to Japan!!!

-9 ( +6 / -15 )

Yardley..

@Mr Kipling seems to believe in immaculate conception. Male and female trainees should be treated equally in their contracts.

No. After doing "the business" the male had no part in child birth. He doesn't need to take time off work, take care of babies and other complications for his employer.

That is what this whole story is about. The employers want reliable workers who turn up on time ready to work for the duration of their contract.

1 ( +8 / -7 )

Sad reality is, once you become a business owner, your priority changes (and your values)

All my Western friends who run their own businesses (mostly eikaiwa schools) were the first ones to complain about these things you are all talking about in this thread until they became business owners and turned in to someone they used to hate

They cut corners, avoid hiring females, hire the cheapest Filipino they can find, etc etc

This is a universal thing

There are always desparate people willing to accept anything that business owners take advantage of

-1 ( +3 / -4 )

It is horrible. And the government solution to scrap trainees is as bad as the companies actions.

The solution should be extremely heavy fines to those companies who violated human rights and also jail sentences for executives who were involved in making such disgusting rules.

2 ( +4 / -2 )

I'm also a female scholar, came here to pursue PhD sponsored by JICA. Every month, we receive 148,000 yen as allowance. I am always grateful for this chance of study. However, when it comes to the human right, I don't think the Japanese government treats us fair enough.

On the very first days of our staying, we were told and guided that we cannot extend our staying or studying time if we get pregnant. This is actually formally written and documented. I didn't think about it carefully until I myself got pregnant, at the age of 28. Yes, please judge me!

After I informed JICA about the pregnancy, they repeatedly asked me to provide the proof (with official seal) of the pregnancy which costed me 11,000 yen. Then, they asked me to submit many forms with supervisor consents to again certify that my research would not be affected and I will be fully self-responsible of my pregnancy. To the point that I felt that I was so wrong to be pregnant.

Shout out to every JICA or government scholar, don't tell your organization that you're pregant, you will not receive any support, they just come to you to make sure you are not a trouble.

10 ( +11 / -1 )

They themselves should be forced to use contraception. I'd rather have more of the ambitious Vietnamese trainees than the heads, minions and their backing Japanese government officials.

-2 ( +4 / -6 )

@MejBee

Thank you for so courageously sharing your story. You most certainly deserve better treatment.

4 ( +5 / -1 )

I'd bite a bullet - it is necessary. These people are here to learn while working for a few (say 3-5) years. Pregnancy means losing one of those years, a real loss. Men, like it or not, don't lose their work capacity after impregnating someone, but the impregnated isn't as fortunate. Idealism runs into reality.

-2 ( +4 / -6 )

Of course it does.

No, it doesnt.

Having a child with a Japanese national gives many types of benefits to the mother.

Even foreign parents have many of the exact same benefits

The right to remain upon divorce and more.

Meaningless, nationalities dont matter!

The rest has nothing to do with my comment.

0 ( +2 / -2 )

Japan on their journey towards multiculturalism... Not by a loooong shot.

-6 ( +3 / -9 )

Futaro GamagoriToday  03:28 pm JST

Sad reality is, once you become a business owner, your priority changes (and your values)

I have to agree. Suddenly the equality they supported back in the day disappears when the money is on the line.

Complaining when a woman gets pregnant, undercutting salary, and paying cheap wages for a philipino and still complains they can't get the quality staff...at cheap prices. Which they always complain abpout but NEVER WANT TO INCREASE THE PAY.

0 ( +3 / -3 )

TaiwanIsNotChinaToday  12:34 pm JST

OssanAmericaToday 12:27 pm JST

*If one actually reads this article, nobody is being forced to use contraception. Which by the way is quite common all over the world and is not the equivalent of sterilization.*

Yeah but what business does anyone have suggesting contraception without being asked?

Where exactly does it say that in the above article?

The article states that; "nine women were advised ...to undergo contraceptive treatment. Five of them actually received such treatments, which included the use of internal birth control rings, the survey showed."

In other words, 9 women were advised to use contraceptives, and 5 did and 4 didn't.

So obviously no one is being "forced" into anything. Nor is anything being done without consent.

These subjects are in Japan under a Worker's Visa, they are not immigrants. The rules of that Visa status include that they are not pregnant. Japan is not the only country with such a rule.

Furthermore, if one actually reads the article it is clear that the J-Gov is making changes.

2 ( +9 / -7 )

Filipina as well. I've met a few whose company told them straight up that they'd be deported if they got pregnant. It's disgusting how they treat Southeast Asian women here.

0 ( +4 / -4 )

If a female technical trainee is raped and becomes pregnant she will be deported because of no fault of her own. Will she be offered a termination?

-1 ( +3 / -4 )

 It's disgusting how they treat Southeast Asian women here.

It's disgusting how any women get treated here, not just SE Asian.

-3 ( +8 / -11 )

@MejBee

I'm also a female scholar, came here to pursue PhD sponsored by JICA. Every month, we receive 148,000 yen as allowance. I am always grateful for this chance of study. However, when it comes to the human right, I don't think the Japanese government treats us fair enough.

On the very first days of our staying, we were told and guided that we cannot extend our staying or studying time if we get pregnant. This is actually formally written and documented. I didn't think about it carefully until I myself got pregnant, at the age of 28. Yes, please judge me!

After I informed JICA about the pregnancy, they repeatedly asked me to provide the proof (with official seal) of the pregnancy which costed me 11,000 yen. Then, they asked me to submit many forms with supervisor consents to again certify that my research would not be affected and I will be fully self-responsible of my pregnancy. To the point that I felt that I was so wrong to be pregnant.

Shout out to every JICA or government scholar, don't tell your organization that you're pregnant, you will not receive any support, they just come to you to make sure you are not a trouble.

So it's officially that the way government treatment to pregnant woman, not only from private sector.

-6 ( +0 / -6 )

@BRS

The article does not implicate the Japanese government or suggest Japanese companies were involved in this deplorable practice. Rather, intermediaries or brokers in Vietnam pressured the female trainees to obtain birth control. The relevant Japanese:

技能実習生として来日したベトナム人女性9人が、母国で採用の仲介を担う「送り出し機関」から避妊処置を勧められ...

How J Govt react from this? Pretend this doesn't exist while make it worst this issue by not giving any penalty for intermediary who really do this thing to human being?

-5 ( +0 / -5 )

I sometimes have to ask the question "Is Japan trying to make itself the laughing stock of the world?".

-7 ( +4 / -11 )

Human rights violation? Also means One Should have COMMON SENSE! Whatever happen to the word RESPONSIBILITY? Yes the women want to work and yes the country/companies need workers BUT there is a better way. Perhaps the company/country apply strict rules requiring that the workers understand that their main objective is to work, also perhaps they can be provided classes as part of job acceptance and orientation pointing out to theses women it is their responsibility to take care of their health and to make the right choices. On the other hand perhaps the companies or Japan could provide FREE contraceptive for these workers to obtain to help prevent the cause of unwanted pregnancies, that way both interest is protected. No one should be forced to take the contraceptive but I think there should be some education so that these women will know up front the consequences of her actions minus his actions before making a choice and doing the deed.

1 ( +2 / -1 )

to transfer knowledge and skills to developing countries

Can people stop writing that nonsense, it was never about that.

-1 ( +1 / -2 )

The word TOLD in the article could also mean that the women were pressured or required to use contraceptive in order to work in these companies which i think implies the companies are trying to control or limit the reproductive choices of the female employees not mentioning the men which I think is very unethical and has some legal implications. I really don't know the context and or reasons behind these companies justification for such a requirement but its not right. What I do think is right is, the women/men have to be responsible and understand these companies rules and the companies must respect the rights of these women.

-1 ( +0 / -1 )

Good, have your children in your own countries, not here..

-5 ( +0 / -5 )

Good, have your children in your own countries, not here..

It's Japan that needs them, and less and less them that needs Japan. At the very very least Japan/employers should respect and support peoples life outside of work and not use them as they were robots.

0 ( +1 / -1 )

No, because the men will not be taking time off to give birth.

Did you skip biology class?

I did not but you clearly seemed to have. How does a woman get pregnant? It takes two to make a baby and contrary to the nonsense you're spouting, the man is equally responsible for the conception of the child. Doesn't matter that the man doesn't need to "take time off to give birth"; it does not absolve him of the fact that he is half responsible for getting his partner pregnant and therefore should be subject to the same treatment and consequences from the employer or organisation. I pity the females in your life; do they know how poor an opinion you have of them? If you ever find a time machine, please hop on it and send yourself back to a time where it was commonplace for women to be barefoot, perpetually heavily pregnant, and slaving over a hot stove.

0 ( +2 / -2 )

The father of any child is likely to be Japanese.

-4 ( +1 / -5 )

Japan has the weirdest, unhealthiest, and repressive ideas about sexuality on the planet ! It is no wonder that their population is declining.

-9 ( +2 / -11 )

Only Vietnamese women! What about Korean, Phillipino, Chinese, etc. women!!

-1 ( +0 / -1 )

Something all the same lines seems to happen for foreign workers in Israel. They need to sign pledge not to have sex with Israelis.

-1 ( +0 / -1 )

Kazuaki ShimazakiJan. 22  04:48 pm JST

I'd bite a bullet - it is necessary. These people are here to learn while working for a few (say 3-5) years. Pregnancy means losing one of those years, a real loss. Men, like it or not, don't lose their work capacity after impregnating someone, but the impregnated isn't as fortunate. Idealism runs into reality.

Isn't it necessary for any woman anywhere who does any job, then? Or how about female university students? It costs a lot of money for them to go to university for 4 years, becoming pregnant is surely going to affect their studies so why shouldn't they be required to use contraception as well?

2 ( +2 / -0 )

purple_depressed_baconJan. 22  06:56 am JST

This is sick and abhorrent. A gross violation of human rights. Also, the blatant focus on female trainees being coerced to "undergo contraception treatment" also shines a light on how Japan persistently and continuously heaps all the blame and responsibility on women when it comes to pregnancy and children while letting the men get off scot-free. Did any of the male trainees have to undergo "contraception treatment" and if so, what form did it take because right now, there isn't a male equivalent of The Pill. I'm utterly disgusted by what I've read. This stunt is another reason on a long laundry list of reasons why the trainee program in Japan should be abolished and never see the light of day again.

This reeks of this 'ethnic/cultural' purity I remember hearing about when I took a university humanities course on Japanese studies and culture. We were told that ethnic Korean-Japanese had to carry cards identifying themselves as such until 1988. And as for the sexual issue, that's trainees' business and nobody else's. Of course a Japanese man can use a Trojan but still, nobody has any right whatsoever to tell a trainee worker - Vietnamese or otherwise how to live her own life. Sex is a crapshoot. What happens happens. No 'authority' has the right to tell anyone on these matters. None.

> factcheckerJan. 22  07:02 am JST

Repugnant

Sick, invasion of privacy, and disgusting.

0 ( +0 / -0 )

Should've just massively incentivized abortion instead like American tech companies, then you'd have people here praising them as progressive.

-1 ( +0 / -1 )

IllyasToday 03:43 am JST

Should've just massively incentivized abortion instead like American tech companies, then you'd have people here praising them as progressive.

Providing free reproductive health care is increasing choice. Your employer telling you it isn't good to carry a pregnancy to term is reducing your choice.

-1 ( +1 / -2 )

This is why Japan is well known as being one of the worst human rights abusers, and why the trainee system is just a front for human trafficking and still sexual slavery to this day.

-1 ( +0 / -1 )

Isn't it necessary for any woman anywhere who does any job, then?

I can actually accept "no pregnancy" limits for labor contracts that are short term. I remember awhile back there were cases of female idols who signed contracts banning them from getting into relationships (because they affect her "sales value") and tried to fight to get out of them in court, and I remember siding with the companies.

Women should have the right to reproduce, and it is also in the State's interest (or even survival) that they do. Nevertheless, it is undeniable that a pregnancy imposes significant losses to the company that's paying their paychecks. I'd say that companies are justified in having the first contract (2-5 years) where they impose a limit. But when they get tenure or they are on their second contract, the company should acquiesce to the maternity leave as both a right of the woman and as a necessity for the State (Japan needs Kids and it needs to Bring Them Up as Well as Feasible). The State should reciprocate by helping to buffer the company from the losses.

Or how about female university students? It costs a lot of money for them to go to university for 4 years, becoming pregnant is surely going to affect their studies so why shouldn't they be required to use contraception as well?

At least they are only hurting themselves, rather than depriving anyone of work product when they get pregnant. I'd save the crimp on their reproductive rights for their first job.

1 ( +1 / -0 )

Companies have expectations. Employees have expectations. The key is to negotiate those expectations for a win-win outcome.

Asking someone not to reproduce "now" is perfectly viable. So is asking them to take steps to delay having a family. Adults make those choices on every "date".

Forcing someone to accept a procedure or drug they don't want is wrong. I think it is a viable hiring filter. We filter people for jobs all the time based on all sorts of criteria. That's reality. Anyone who interviews people for jobs knows this. Everyone who has been on an interview knows this too, even if they don't want to admit it.

If the training program lasts more than a year, an unplanned pregnancy would likely prevent completion. That's bad for both the company and the trainee.

1 ( +1 / -0 )

BTW, people do have the right to reproduce. They don't have the right to an internship job, however.

1 ( +1 / -0 )

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