Virgin territory: Study shows heterosexual inexperience rising in Japan

If more and more people are "virgins", I wonder why I see so many pregnant women down here!

I guess the "stork" got to them!

Contrary to “Popular Belief”, there is NOTHING “Wrong” with this.

@ WA4TKG

Contrary to “Popular Belief”, there is NOTHING “Wrong” with this.

Really...? Well, unless you've managed to come up with a practical alternative to sex for bringing more babies into the world, I would say that the imminent possibility of the Japanese people going the way of the Dodo is a bad thing and therefore “Wrong”, wouldn't you...?

If more and more people are "virgins", I wonder why I see so many pregnant women down here!

That's just confirmation bias.

How odd.

I guess ultimately an unbalanced lifestyle, can lead to other imbalances.

Really...? Well, unless you've managed to come up with a practical alternative to sex for bringing more babies into the world, I would say that the imminent possibility of the Japanese people going the way of the Dodo is a bad thing

The Japanese people are not going to go the way of the Dodo. Think that through - all Japanese people would have to stop having sex for that to happen. Japanese people are humans too. That's just not going to happen.

Contrary to “Popular Belief”, there is NOTHING “Wrong” with this.

Why do you use speech marks? It seems as though you are just throwing them around at random.

But even if we ignore them, I disagree. There is plenty wrong with it. It is downright weird for grown adults to remain celebate for do long - it hints at something very wrong in Japanese society.

If lifestyles included time off, little bit of happiness. Less pressure...maybe people could form relationships other than work related and perhaps have a chance of enjoying having a partner for nooky and even support and love.

Young people just won't listen:

Mother: Why aren't you meeting girls and getting married son?

Thirty something: 'Talk to the hand mom.'

The low wedding/dating rate is due to low mean wages of Japan, especially for men.

It is factually established that the birth rate among the wealthy remains high. It is the low-income men with the annual income below 3 million yen who have given up on dating or getting married, and you can't blame them for making this choice as they are making the Darwinian choice, the survival of the fittest.

So if Japan were to boost the marriage/birth rate, then it must mandate a higher minimum wage for married men at 5 million yen, injecting government subsidies if it must.

Same thing is happening with many men around the world, hence, the backlash against the feminist movement and the formation of many 'men's rights' groups.

@samit

do you have a reference? If you google "income and fertility" you will find that "There is generally an inverse correlation between income and the total fertility rate within and between nations."

The root of this is multi-faceted, but the biggest culprit is the work culture. Combine the long hours with uncompensated overtime, and it's worse.

I lived in Japan for 4 years in my 20's. I could never understand the gaijin who attained 1-kyu Japanese with the aim of a permanent job in Japan to spend the rest of their years there. Why would an educated person from a Western country VOLUNTEER for a life in a work environment that dominates the lives and unhappiness of millions of Japanese?

Around one in 10 Japanese in their 30s has never had heterosexual sex and the number of adults with no sexual experience is increasing

This is worrying news ANY WAY you look at it.

The natural social awkwardness between the sexes becomes "unnatural" within the rigid framework of modern Japanese society structured to sexually repress young people by drilling them through exams and sports and then pressuring them into entering exploitative working conditions where their free time is severely limited and discretionary income is insufficient. In short, there's no time (or money) for THAT!

I see so many young kids totally engrossed in games on cell phones, etc. They are living in a fantasy world and not meeting and interacting with real people. I think the problem is largely caused by computer/cell phone games and TV. Japanese school doesn't help either. All they can do is shut up and listen as the teacher drones on and on. Very different to when I was a kid. Afternoons, evenings were spent playing with friends. Saturday morning we'd clean the house and go shopping and we'd usually go out somewhere on a Sunday.

So, this means Japanese society has a problem with basic adult interaction. What a revelation that is, NOT!

Sex is not only fantastic fun, it's very important for our mental and physical health. What a shame that so many people are missing out on one of life's greatest pleasures.

It is well known that in the year 3975, Japan will have a population of 2. Yes, two! Hopefully one male and one female or Japan is really screwed (excuse the pun).

The reason this is news over and over again, is because theres going to be a massive population loss with the boomers dying off.

I say let the population drop! Japan is overcrowded as hell.

What kind of sexual education is being taught in the schools? Is it all abstinence? Or maybe a public speaking or communications class. The United States has a lot of horrible issues, but this is not one of them. Sex needs communication & education. 

The questions above are not jokes. I sincerely want to know.

Around one in 10 Japanese in their 30s has never had heterosexual sex and the number of adults with no sexual experience is increasing, according to a new study based on national survey data.

Does anyone else find this introductory statement rather bizarre? Why is the author differentiating “sex” from “heterosexual sex”? Is she implying that homosexual sex is not sex? Or perhaps she is implying that one in ten are into bestiality? Or sex with toaster ovens? I think this could have been worded better.

Also, I'm pretty sure Japanese people are having sex. They are just not having babies as frequently. The work culture is too oppressive to meet anyone for regular romantic involvement. Then it's too expensive to raise children.

The cost of raising children is a global issue in most developed countries. If you want men to have traditional family roles. You have to give them the financial means to do it. Or give women the financial means to raise children on their own. Etc.

If you look around you you can see why. Many guys have become effeminate (not necessarily a bad thing perhaps) but they lack serious social skills to approach and hook up with women, they are as the Japanese call shoushokukei? More interested in games, anime or manga.

HI? LOL!

Well, I’m doing my part to help lower this statistic.

Sex is great, but a lot of people take it too far and get married. I recommend having many women.

If she stops meeting your mental, physical, and spiritual needs, starts nagging／spending／talking too much, you can move on without being trapped／divorced, as so many men are currently（or are in denial of）.

I can't wait for the advancements in sex robot technology to solve all these problems.

Sad news. Intimacy makes life better, and loneliness is not good for you.

Japan does not give men and women that many chances to mingle. There is also that weird stigma against nampa (chatting up), with the lingering belief that the only legitimate way to find a partner is through mutual friends or at the workplace.

Another dumb "study" blaming youth for the population decline in Japan. Socialism and corruption have destroyed ambition. Japan doesn't have much of a future and the youth sense it.

I find it very strange, since I feel that Japan is more oversexulized than my home country e.g. porn magazines in sight height for little children at conbinis, giant anime tits even in children animes, sexualisation of highschool uniforms, chikan, or simply the notion, that if you and a guy spend time together alone in a room, people will assume that you would definitely have had sex (since there is nothing else to do between adults of different sex).

...or wait, is this the origin for the problem?

There's actually nothing wrong with this.

Sex isn't supposed to be a game. It's a serious act with, at least potentially, very important consequences.

There's nothing wrong with waiting till one is married before having sex -- or at least till one is older.

In fact, in the West this would be counter-cultural. I would tell young people in the West that if you really want to be a "rebel," if you really want to avoid "conformity," if you really want to be a "cool counter-cultural person," then wait till marriage or at least till later in life before having sex.

Those who have sex in very young adulthood or adolescence aren't being "cool." They're just copying everyone else and conforming.

My advice is to rise to a higher moral and behavioral plane -- that's the way to be different and "cool."

1 in 10 Japanese doesn't want to answer a sex related question from a stranger.

Education, education, education.

Sex shouldn't be taboo or shrouded in mystery. It's part of who we are and people should be open about it and discuss if they don't understand, or feel fearful of it.

There's nothing wrong with waiting till one is married before having sex -- or at least till one is older.

The latter is fine but the former can lead to an unhappy marriage. People should be able to have sexual relationships before marriage, so they can comprehend the ups and downs (so to speak) of intercourse. And of course, not everyone is going to get married. They should get out, and live a bit - experience life.

Sex isn't supposed to be a game. It's a serious act with, at least potentially, very important consequences.

There's nothing wrong with waiting till one is married before having sex -- or at least till one is older.

In fact, in the West this would be counter-cultural. I would tell young people in the West that if you really want to be a "rebel," if you really want to avoid "conformity," if you really want to be a "cool counter-cultural person," then wait till marriage or at least till later in life before having sex.

> Those who have sex in very young adulthood or adolescence aren't being "cool." They're just copying everyone else and conforming.

> My advice is to rise to a higher moral and behavioral plane -- that's the way to be different and "cool."

Sorry but I respectfully disagree. There is NOTHING cool about waiting till marriage. If YOU want to wait until marriage? Fine, that is your choice, but don't push your beliefs on to others. Sex is a natural thing, its in our dna. We should not tell young people to dont have or have sex. What we need to do is educate young people better so that they can make better decisions for themselves. Education is the key here.

When it comes to this kind of topic, some people always rush to blame Japanese lifestyle.

Are these stereotypes only seeing Tokyo and few main cities?

Everyone has a story and lives in some sort of different situation.

So people over 30 has no experience in sex, it doesn't mean it's all because of their hectic lifestyle.

Mayne he/she is enjoying their life so much that they haven't got time to have sex. That includes Solo Travellers, Video Gamers, Bookworms, even day dreamers or maybe waiting for their true partner.

Why would an educated person from a Western country VOLUNTEER for a life in a work environment that dominates the lives and unhappiness of millions of Japanese?

I live in Japan since my 20s and that is the question I've been asking myself since a while.

But again, we can live a pretty much happy and stress-free life in Japan if you know how to adapt yourself to this environment. Not to the japanese environment off course because 10 years later and you will still be treated as a foreigner fresh off the boat. Moving around by motorcycle (so you don't have to start your day dealing with the empty seat next to you), being your own boss or at the very least working in a a international company with at least half of foreigners can help a lot.

And yes. I wonder where do they hide the pregnant women in this place.

Take a stroll around Shibuya or Umeda and you will see tons of girl friends hanging around, 1 or 2 couples holding hands.

"Contrary to “Popular Belief”, there is NOTHING “Wrong” with this."

There IS something wrong if the cause it some major breakdown in society like people marrying their pillow and perfectly happy with with the porn collection. If it is their choice for religious or moral reasons, then sure, I don't think there is anything wrong with being a virgin. But when fundamental norms in society are breaking down due to hikikomori and porn and living in a city of 25 million but have ZERO connection with anyone, then something is wrong. Boys and girls are separated through k-12, then many of them have no idea how to talk to a girl in college, then they go work for a company from 7 to 7 then go home to their anime pillow porn. Its a problem.

(And personlay I am against hikikomori. Somedays I wish I could be one, but society is not a one way street. If you want to be hikikormori in the woods and be self sufficient, then fine. But society provides and protects and takes care of you, power, water, ambulance, police, the people who made your apt, etc. You need to be a part of that society)

Those who have sex in very young adulthood or adolescence aren't being "cool." They're just copying everyone else and conforming.

How silly. We aren’t talking about wearing skinny jeans or using Instagram here. We are talking about satisfying normal instincts.

Fill your boots but use protection.

It's just the lifestyle. Okinawa, in contrast, has a steadily growing birth rate and increasing population. Anyone who's been there for a couple of days, especially on the remote islands, knows the difference in lifestyle.

@kohakuebisu Sex is not the same thing as intimacy. You can have intimacy without sex and you can have sex without intimacy. Implying that a lack of sex is a lack of intimacy is a false dichotomy. I do think that they are often correlated but they aren't causal in either direction.

And to all of the people worried about the end of Japan because there aren't enough people having babies... immigration is a thing that exists and also "less babies" is not the same thing as "no babies" and can eventually reach a stable population. There's no need for dramatics.

Sex isn't a "marriage" thing. Marriage was invented after and humans are the only species to acknowledge "marriage".

If the sole purpose of sex was to create offspring, you wouldn't have things like condoms, "pulling out", or homosexuality either...seems like a lot of young people here are missing out on basic human instinct.

Stress , stress and stress

After graduated from university every one busy to find job or with new job, they think to build career first.

Once career stable then it's 30.

Let's find partner then it's 35

Let's get married then it's 40

Let's get baby........... Ohhh no it's too late. we are busy to switch to new or better career, I have a promotion now, I can't take the risk... bla bla bla.

Partner might not interested each other then let's separate at 50....

GOVT. spend money for many non-potential issue but not in right place.

I have good idea to improve this situation but who will listen to me? GOVT.??? I don't think so.

More dancing, less smart phones, video games...

@ Insane W

Socialism and corruption have destroyed ambition. 

When I woke up this morning, I thought Japan was still a capitalist society. What changed? Or was I dreaming?

Does anyone else find this introductory statement rather bizarre? Why is the author differentiating “sex” from “heterosexual sex”? Is she implying that homosexual sex is not sex? Or perhaps she is implying that one in ten are into bestiality? Or sex with toaster ovens? I think this could have been worded better.

Look... This is not about the gay/LGBTQ+ community. A community I support & advocate to have equal rights to adopt, get married, etc. So Until science reaches Star Trek NG levels, a same sex (not same gender) couple is not producing an embryo the old fashion way. But this is not about you. The context of this is about sex that can result in a pregnancy. Because Japan is experiencing a population decline more extreme than other developed nations. Sex is still sex. But this distinction is about sex that is more likely to end in a pregnancy.

How could this NOT be happening. They need only observe their parents with the stuffing knocked out of them, brow beaten weary resignation written all over their faces, to understand what lies in wait should they venture down that same path. Things could be very different. For starters, the education system needs a complete overhaul. The hyper-competitive test based system, far from being the meritocracy it’s lauded for, is a scam, gamed by those with the wherewithal to afford the extra tuition fees which ensure entrance to the better schools and better life outcomes. The contented, myopic elites 知らん顔 out of existence, vast swathes of their compatriots to also ran status, out of mind out of sight penury.

It is because of the so many informal rules to respect that sex is out of reach for many.

Even me being charming I realized there are so many hurdles : it starts with eye catch, then with physical distance, then gender differenciation, then sex definition, then space availability, then fear of the consequence from others...

Contributing to reduce this discussed rate now and forever ;)

Just have fun. Life is short.

Sex isn't a "marriage" thing. Marriage was invented after and humans are the only species to acknowledge "marriage".

Aye. And why should such a construct dictate when, how or why people have sex? Indeed, why should there be moral arbiters over what people get up to in private?

With the size of Japan's porn and redlight industries, I'd be surprised if these figures are right

I would say that the imminent possibility of the Japanese people going the way of the Dodo is a bad thing and therefore “Wrong”, wouldn't you...?

I'm quite relaxed about it. If they allowed dual nationality I would take it, but they don't, so I won't. Their loss.

With the size of Japan's porn and redlight industries, I'd be surprised if these figures are right

Exactly how many people you think are in the porn and redlight industries??

So if Japan were to boost the marriage/birth rate, then it must mandate a higher minimum wage for married men at 5 million yen, injecting government subsidies if it must.

I'm sure we all would like that.

Okinawa has the highest birth rate and Tokyo the lowest.

http://nbakki.hatenablog.com/entry/2014/06/27/124058

If you ever been to Tokyo, you'll know why. Talk about a cold environment.

 Very different to when I was a kid. Afternoons, evenings were spent playing with friends. Saturday morning we'd clean the house and go shopping and we'd usually go out somewhere on a Sunday.

And I suppose you walked uphill to and from school in snow 2 meters deep too! And I will bet as well your parents had similar negative comments about you and "your" generation as well!

It's easy to point fingers and lay the blame on something you did not have, and all it ends up being is an excuse.

The biggest reason is not the fault of any machine, nor game, it's much deeper, these examples are just the peripherals .

Land of the rising virgin's

Does anyone else find this introductory statement rather bizarre? Why is the author differentiating “sex” from “heterosexual sex”? 

I don't think it is the author making this distinction, I think it was the survey. I found this strange too. As they asked specifically about heterosexual sex, it is obviously a factor in whatever they want to use the data for, so why not just ask about homosexual sex too? Instead, you end up with statements like "assuming that five percent of respondents were engaged only in homosexual sex," meaning that any conclusions have probably been reached at least partly based on an assumption.

It's like reality dictates that they have to factor in the fact that gay sex exists but they don't want to actually acknowledge it.

Socialism and corruption have destroyed ambition. 

Socialism? You must be living in some other Japan, mate.

So their heterosexual experience is decreasing. Are there any studies about whether their homosexual experience is increasing in direct proportion? From: totally-gay gokai.

Weird.

35-39 sudden increase is probably due to the ticking biological clock women experience.

would be nice to know the size of the study group. Also comparitive study of homosexual relationships.

Oh, and living in a small house with neighbours houses sharing the same walls, granny on one side of the rice paper divide and parents snoring on the other side, and all the neighbours spying on you...then there is the windows in the karaoke booths and the spy cameras in love hotels...at least if you are gay you always have department store toilets, but for young lovers, you are out of luck.

While i do see the correlation between income and populayion growth in first World nations, many 3rd world countries are very poor yet have large populations and growing. I wonder if it's just income, or income and stress combined with expectations of a first World lifestyle.

I blame AKB, anime, educational system and the porn for the cause of so many virgin in Japan.

It's like reality dictates that they have to factor in the fact that gay sex exists but they don't want to actually acknowledge it.

More likely it's because the survey was aimed at procreation numbers for population growth estimates. There is no particular reason to know exactly how many people are experienced in homosexual intercourse, and including them in numbers aimed at heterosexuals would skew the statistics.

You reap what you sow. Who wants to have sex when they work 6 to 7 days a week from morning to night? And more importantly, who wants to form a relationship with someone like that (apart from women looking only for a sarariman)?

I think part of the problem is the easy access to porn over the internet now.

People are working from early morning until late at night, with no real holidays. And everyone is stuck on their mobiles, so no one talks to each other.

With all the loose women in Japan - enough to continue fueling the "Japanese girls are easy" rumors - it amazes me that this study could be true.

As the good book says .. Go forth and multiple !

Sadly, that book hasn't apparently reached these shores.... or has been redacted so much that it no longer says that...

I am puzzled and disappointed to read these reports. I remember very well "girl hunting", young guys waiting around stations on weekend, like Shinjuku etc hoping to meet groups of girls. Sometimes they got lucky, went to Izakaya and maybe more. I rarely see groups like this any more.

What has happened? Japanese young men no longer have the "hunting" instinct, and the result is low birth rate. Such a shame. Ultimately, robots will need to replace workers because of the inaction of these young men.

Maybe I'm getting old, but a decade or two ago, Japanese women were in plentiful supply ... now either they've all grown older, or I have :( Times much surely have changed.

Oh, and living in a small house with neighbours houses sharing the same walls, granny on one side of the rice paper divide and parents snoring on the other side, and all the neighbours spying on you...then there is the windows in the karaoke booths and the spy cameras in love hotels...at least if you are gay you always have department store toilets, but for young lovers, you are out of luck.

2 words. Love Hotel. No excuses to not "get busy".

JenniSchiebel

Today | 09:35 am JST

> There's actually nothing wrong with this.

Sex isn't supposed to be a game. It's a serious act with, at least potentially, very important consequences.

There's nothing wrong with waiting till one is married before having sex -- or at least till one is older.

Sex is a crapshoot in a way. If it leads to a pregnancy then it will change everything. 2 friends of mine in college 'jumped the gun' and when the baby arrived, both parents put their studies on hold because now they had a new responsibility. Neither one of them had any work that was skilled enough to pay much of anything. They should've waited one more year when they would've got their university degrees.

papigiulio

Today | 10:05 am JST

If YOU want to wait until marriage? Fine, that is your choice, but don't push your beliefs on to others. Sex is a natural thing, its in our dna. We should not tell young people to don't have or have sex. What we need to do is educate young people better so that they can make better decisions for themselves. Education is the key here.

Religion aside there is a reason to wait. Education is the key and in America too many people on 'both sides' of the fence DO NOT educate kids on this enough. Virginity is a virtue but it's nothing to flaunt - everyone is born a virgin, but 'losing it' is nothing to 'brag about' either. It doesn't make you a 'better' person in any manner. Sex is not just for 'procreation', it's an act of love and it's not meant to be a 'right of passage'. It's an adult action, with possible consequences and it's for mature people. And it ain't something for anyone to be tooting their horn about.

The problem with these studies are that none seem to be about what the problems are, or how to solve them, and ONLY about gossip and further alienating people who may or may not have had sex. If it is a genuine study, let's say, based on Japan's decreasing birth and every-increasing age, I get it, but to be honest half of these studies sound like they are from perv mags. Leave it alone and let people do as they please. This is on one's business, and even if it IS a study, suggesting they start getting together like the Chinese Panda's on loan while the people making the studies "help" make sure it happens, it is no wonder these numbers go up. We need healthy discussion, NOT what we are having now.

How about conducting a Homosexual experience in Japan report and publishing the results against this one ?

Women after 40 years old do not produce babies well.

That is a fact of nature. In Japan, now, a lot of younger Women see a "career" as being important....

As a "man" achieving a "Career" is often not seen until the mid-30's....

For a "woman" ... lets face it. You are the problem. Why ? Well, you have not forced the issue upon those Stupid Male Politicians for starters - who are probably x3 your own age anyway. Secondly, as being Japanese native - you have the vote... so why dont you use it! Most people here are Foreigners and cant vote, so what we write here is a pointless waste of time

Japan's aging population issue is of its own making... and those who currently run the Country with their blinkered view upon things, just really... are wiping out the "Japanese" people.

Maybe Japan could promote itself as a xenophobic free country .... ?

That's just confirmation bias.

Hardly it's a fact. If the premise is that less people are having sex then explain why Okinawa, happens to have the highest birth rate in Japan! I also means that you and obviously quite a few others do not know sarcasm when they read it!

Also if the people of Okinawa were spread out throughout the country, I am pretty sure there would be no discussions about "declining" population or lack of sexual experience!

Wearing masks in public, never putting a device down (cell phone), serious mentality at work on an overall standard puts money before love. Some Japanese people can be a bit robotic and disregard what’s truly important in life. Physical contact starting with a hand shake or hug is intimidating in certain stand points, humans are meant to be touched.

Mother: Why aren't you meeting girls and getting married son?

why mum you do everything for me now, I get to live at home for free, why would I need to get married!?

The low wedding/dating rate is due to low mean wages of Japan, especially for men.

If that is the case, how do you explain that the lowest income prefecture in Japan (Okinawa) has the highest fertility rate in Japan? And, no, it's not due to the US Marines in Okinawa.

As for correlating surveys like this with low fertility in Japan, people need to explain why, for example, Spain and Italy have notably lower birth rates than Japan. At one time Denmark had a much lower fertility rate that Japan does now. No one said the Danes had given up sex. Until a couple of years ago, the Japanese fertility rate was higher than that of Germany. No one claimed the Germans had given up on sex.

Fertility rates in the Nordic countries are also tanking. I've read many articles on this subject. Not one has claimed this is due to less sexual activity.

In theory less/no sex could explain low fertility in Japan and something else could explain low fertility in other countries but that needs to be proved.

What kind of sexual education is being taught in the schools?

My guess it’s the geometric sort: “round peg goes into round hole”. Sex has more to do with emotions than mechanics.

If she stops meeting your mental, physical, and spiritual needs, starts nagging／spending／talking too much, ...

I think Cenk Uygur of The Young Turks already addressed this issue in 2002 with his “rules of dating”. See:

https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5a3eb4d1e4b025f99e178181/amp

Trying to look at the positive, one reason for this may be that Japanese women are starting to assert themselves and say “no” when faced with traditionally aggressive Japanese male behaviour, particularly in the work place.

Women often have found it hard to say no in Japan. Their expected submissiveness is almost a part of the culture. The popular conception of women as reflected in Japanese popular manga, teen idol girl bands and of course Japanese porn has been of the submissive girl or woman in short skirts or under aged school girls who are play things for Japanese businessmen. Japanese porn movies are filled with girls submissive in the face of aggressive sexual behaviour. These patterns have been mimicked in approaches to sex of a lot of Japanese men who grow up with little time after jukku or work and a lot of internal frustration (as well as a steady diet of manga).

So perhaps the increasing trend to abstinence is pointing to the fact that women want more than that and they are holding out for better quality relationships. If so, that would be a positive.

This normal. Even in America, it's the same. Not everyone is supposed to sex at the same time. Come on.

The Japanese people are not going to go the way of the Dodo. Think that through - all Japanese people would have to stop having sex for that to happen. Japanese people are humans too. That's just not going to happen.

Strangerland - Actually a population can go extinct even if it is having sex. In order for the population to survive each woman would have to have on average 2.1 kids. Anything less than that will cause the population shrink.

For example lets say you have a population of 16 people forming 8 couples and each couple only has 1 child. The next generation will only be 8 people, those 8 people form 4 couples, each couple only has one child, that makes the next generation only 4 people, which forms 2 couples and each couple has one child which leaves you with two kids and those two kids become a couple and only have one kid which results in the end of a population of one person.

As long as Japanese use birth control while having sex and only have one child per woman you will see the population begin to shrink to the point it will eventually go extinct.

Not true - This is just for their 'image'. They have so many hentai magazines in convenient stores and recruiters passing out tissues to recruit women into the 'industry'.

Just one of the ways that Japan is just strange. I see good-looking women on the train or street every day but most of the guys aren't even paying them any attention. They stare at me more than the girls. The boys being weird has made the women weird too. Glad I wasn't born and didn't grow up here.