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Virus forces 1 in 13 students in Japan to consider quitting: survey

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I think the govt is going to use this as a chance to consolidate universities by letting students drop out. The 'better' universities will survive by being more popular ensuring a consistent source of income while the less popular ones offering a 'degree' in name only will close. It's been talked about for a while and I think it needs to happen to be honest because too many students are going for the sake of it just for a rubber stamp on their application to life. Companies in Japan do more training and education than a 4-year bachelor's degree a lot of the time anyway.

Of course it's sad for the students this is happening to now and I hope they can all finish their courses but the system needs reforming

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Wait 'till they find out that nobody's hiring...

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Govt should step in and pay the fees for this year for this time and reconsider the whole situation , as we all know many with a degree have no sense at all , all they have is a degree that they wave around for the rest of their life, meaningless piece of paper they some how thinks it makes them smarter.

Now I know the smart ones with degrees will be thumbing this one down. .............................

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Bit odd there was no mention at all of student loans. Why should others pay for your education? Is free university education a birthright? I don't think so.

One in thirteen might say they are considering quitting, but I bet many of those won't - not if they have any common sense. Not exactly the best time to be job hunting. Although I'm sure supermarkets and convenience stores are still hiring for those lacking.

I can't help think that some students expect their parents to pay the fees while they work at part time jobs to fund their discretionary spending. Perhaps without this university has lost some of it's allure. Sorry, but it might be time to take out a loan like many students elsewhere.

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Just think of how far all the money for dirty cracker sized masks could have helped out. Thanks Abe.

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Why should others pay for your education? Is free university education a birthright? 

I wouldn't call it a birthright, more a social responsibility. If you have the intellectual capacity, you owe it to society to make the most of what you were born with so that you can contribute to society in the way that best suits all concerned.

It's in society's best interest to see to it that there is a well-educated work force from which to draw doctors, dentists, nurses, economists, teachers, chemists, linguists, IT specialists, engineers, physicists, architects, vets, accountants, lawyers etc., etc., - all the essential jobs that make life easier and richer for all of us. That being the case, it makes sense for society as a whole to support young people in their quest for an education.

Disclaimer; as a boomer growing up in the UK, I was privileged to have the state not only pay for my four years of university tuition but also provide me with a grant for living expenses. Without that I would have had to leave school at the end of compulsory education and work some dead-end job. I am grateful for the leg-up I was given, and have nothing but contempt for the boomer politicians who decided to deny later generations of UK students access to the same privileges they enjoyed.

To look at the question of who pays for university education from another perspective; I raised two very intelligent kids in Japan, and though Mr Cleo and I both earned good money, putting the two of them through university (even with non-repayable scholarships, I told you they were very intelligent) was a struggle at times. A third kid would have really stretched the purse strings. Japanese politicians say they want to raise the birth rate. Well, making education a communal effort instead of expecting parents to pay crippling amounts might lead more couples to consider having one or two more kids. I know I would have.

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@Cleo

First, congratulations to be socially responsible.

Money or not, clever people can always manage nowadays to get good jobs.

And money or not, you can always raise 3 or more kids if you care enough and put efforts in non-material essentials.

In Japan my life would have been poor and would not be able to raise best 3 kids.

So did not stay there, gone away and so far so very good because we all know the total absence of social consideration to people who bring up children in Japan.

Just a matter of efforts and common sense, not money.

Studying should be indeed a right for everyone, if you deserve it.

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@Cleo - 4 Year University course in the UK ... I thought most were 3 years... Masters afterwards ? Just out of interest, how long did you work in the UK afterwards ?

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I wonder what percentage of students typically want to quit?

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Providing education and allowing children to have the ability to really think is so so important!

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@mmwkdw

Bachelor's degrees are 3 years in England. If Cleo-san is Scottish, they are 4 years.

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In the greater scheme of things, education is really, really cheap. Nowadays however, running universities has become a much more expensive endeavour, because we'll become convinced we need to compete for international rankings.

As Cleo-san says, education is an investment in society - and sometimes that's worth more than the monetary costs. Over decades we have - unfortunately - become trained to think of this as a zero-sum game, where more for me means less for you. The reality is often that there would be more than enough for us both, if our money were being spent properly.

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4 Year University course in the UK ... I thought most were 3 years... 

Typically they are three years, but some are four.

For example, language courses are always four (third year abroad). Some combined honours courses are four years.

But I think with the increased cost of education, few will winningly do a four year course.

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Is free university education a birthright? I don't think so.

Who paid for your elementary and high school education? Was that a birthright?

Why is there an arbitrary point at which you should begin to pay for education?

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cleo

Disclaimer; as a boomer growing up in the UK, I was privileged to have the state not only pay for my four years of university tuition but also provide me with a grant for living expenses. Without that I would have had to leave school at the end of compulsory education and work some dead-end job. I am grateful for the leg-up I was given, and have nothing but contempt for the boomer politicians who decided to deny later generations of UK students access to the same privileges they enjoyed.

I attended a number of technical colleges paid for by my employer. Then art university for a degree and after being a tax payer for a number of years, I was a mature student and received a full grant and support covering all of my fees and expenses.

I have always supported the premise that education up to graduate level should remain free. Thousands of students are able to attend university because they come from a position of privilege. The same should apply to the thousands of working class people who would benefit from the education.

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If you have the intellectual capacity, you owe it to society to make the most of what you were born with so that you can contribute to society in the way that best suits all concerned.

A genius who can deliver sandwiches, enjoy the freedom that type of job provides, and make a living doesn't owe society anything. Certainly, she doesn't need to get a typical office job working 14 hrs a day, belittled by managers. One of my nephews "dropped out" of society to do just that. He's 1000x happier now than he was running a computer programming team.

People owe it to themselves to find happiness, hopefully through legal methods. Society forces other people's ideas onto the individual so we can all get along, but societal pressure is responsible for many bad things in the world to go along with the good. If you don't seek your own happiness, then you'll never find any. Nobody else will hand it to you, that is certain.

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Education should be free of charge.

The countries who have understood that long ago are doing very well.

That sounds obvious but some rich people want to keep their family elite status by denying poorest the right to perform and challenge them for the good of the community.

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"Top" universities are mostly elitist networking.

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When the economy gets bad, people tend to go back to school to upgrade their skills to become more marketable especially when it is hard to find work.

An educated society regardless of what career that the members of that society pursue will be better off long-term.

You have to wonder why certain people, governments, companies and organization don't want all members of society to be educated. It is usually for selfish and nefarious reasons.

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When I came to Japan,I had to pay for my college doing all sorts of part-time jobs to afford fees and pay for my survival.Part time jobs were limited to about 4 and half hours per day.And as a foreign student,getting baito was not easy.I almost dropped out for lack of fees till my sch decided to slash some of my fees and a was lucky gvt subsidy for poor students.

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