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Boeing Dreamliner hit by two more mishaps in Japan

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This is a sad commentary on the quality of American production. . .

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Seriously, aren't pilots getting scared flying this dumptruck?

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And so the faults and defects continue. Boeing need to really get their people to go over every one in service to ensure they are all fit for purpose. I wouldn't risk my life in one of these flying time bombs.

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Scary. Think I'll stick to flying for free on U.S. military aircraft which I do all the time. They are safer!

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Below is what I said on the previous article about these "fabulous" planes. I'm really hoping the two intellectuals that gave thumbs down come back today and demonstrate their support for Boeing again today. Flying with Boeing now on one of those planes would be the equivalant of not listening to your parents when they said "don't do that you'll regret it ! "

"With the number of instances that have happened with the Japan fleet alone I'd be refusing to fly on any one of those planes. Someone's pockets got lined to push these planes through to quick. It's obvious not enough rigorous flight testing was done and unfortunately if any of these issues happens half way across the pacific I wouldn't hope for a happy ending or result.

Ground them, why take a chance with so many lives at stake."

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When you look at the miles flown safely already, these are minor issues. Boeing doesnt make batteries (highly vaunted Japanese tech there) or windshields - Id be happy to fly this aircraft on my next flight and would go out of my way, in fact. Brother is a commercial pilot - strongly prefers Boeing.

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PPG aerospace The headquarters in PA Pittsburg USA can take credit for the "highly vaunted" glass technolgy used in the Boeing Dreamliners . Doesn't matter where the components come from if they are faulty and/or not thoroughly tested for all extremes and stresses in these aircraft.

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Good old American made!

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The 787 is a multi-national effort as indicated below.

Subcontracted assemblies included wing manufacture (Mitsubishi Heavy Industries, Japan, central wing box)[34] horizontal stabilizers (Alenia Aeronautica, Italy; Korea Aerospace Industries, South Korea);[35] fuselage sections (Global Aeronautica, Italy; Boeing, North Charleston, USA; Kawasaki Heavy Industries, Japan; Spirit AeroSystems, Wichita, USA; Korean Air, South Korea);[36][37][38] passenger doors (Latécoère, France); cargo doors, access doors, and crew escape door (Saab AB, Sweden); software development (HCL Enterprise India);[39] floor beams (TAL Manufacturing Solutions Limited, India);[40][41] wiring (Labinal, France);[42] wing-tips, flap support fairings, wheel well bulkhead, and longerons (Korean Air, South Korea);[43] landing gear (Messier-Dowty, UK/France);[44] and power distribution and management systems, air conditioning packs (Hamilton Sundstrand, Connecticut, USA).[42][45] Boeing is considering bringing construction of the 787-9 tail in house; the tail of the 787-8 is currently made by Alenia.[46]

The battery which caused the fire was made in Japan. The wings (and tanks) are made by Mitsubishi Heavy Industries. The leak was caused by an open valve (not faulty valve) and the overflow vent system worked as it was designed. There is no report on the cause of the cracks in the windshield but PPG also makes the windshields for Airbus.

At lease they haven't had an engine break apart over a densely populated area like the A380 did.

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No mention to if this is anything out of the ordanary, there is nearly always something broken on an airline with thousands of parts... I'm suprised they didn't report the headphones not working :)

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Maybe this are hype news.

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Boeing needs to get on the ball ASAP !!

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I'll wait for the investigation to finish on the oil leak. It could be something as simple as a fitting not being properly tightened after the 100-hour maintenence performed by the airline. If it was a design flaw, I would expect more of these engines to be leaking already.

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This is a sad commentary on the quality of American production. . .

Made in China. Assembled in USA.......

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I can't believe how many headlines I have read about boeing problems in the pst 2 days :/

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Japan Airlines and ANA should've gone with Airbus, instead.

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@jessebaybay Lets hope the next ones (if any) are not them being fatal in anyway.

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Techall very good information. Maybe this doesn't only highlight a product failure but a lapse in quality control by boring ...I mean Boeing ...

Wait until the carbon fibre shell disintegrates ...if the one thing airbus taught the air industry is that carbon fiber fails and isn't as fail proof as they'd like it to be. Which burns faster ? Carbon fiber or aluminum alloys ?? Catastrophic battery failure ? People were quick to put blame on the batteries but was it that ?? Not decided yet. I suspect it was a connection issue or charging issue and not the batteries eg; Ford and their one time usage alternator connectors or the ignition switch issues caused fires. GM/ Chrysler and their faulty voltage regulators over charging the batteries.

Regardless of what they say or come up with in plausible excuses I feel much safer traveling in a Airbus. It's easier to choose a company with less instances of trouble ...considering you will be thinking about that 35,000' above land or water.

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I have already cancelled my inaugural flight in Dreamliner on 3/31 to Tokyo. I refuse to fly in it. I will go through SFO.

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I would simply suggest to keep things in perspective. There may be issues here, but it's not as if the Dreamliner's basic design has led to fatalities -- unlike the Airbus 330 with Air France Flight 447 ...

http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/aviation/crashes/what-really-happened-aboard-air-france-447-6611877

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With the number of instances these have happened with the Japan fleet alone I'd be refusing to fly on any one of those planes. Someone's pockets got lined to push these planes through to quick. It's obvious not enough rigorous flight testing was done and unfortunately if any of these issues happens half way across the pacific I wouldn't hope for a enough ending or result...... < http://www.konaspa.com/Island_Specialty_Packages.html>

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I'm not crazy about Airbus but this Boeing 787 and brand new??? Imagine the problems they'll have in 5 or 15 years from now!!! Run for the hills!!!!!!

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Boeing's 787 Dreamliner is a challenging new aircraft. Labinal rose to the occasion by developing wiring systems that deliver unprecedented weight savings,

**** Labinal outsourced jobs from Pryor, Oklahoma to Mexico. And considering its vital importance in aircraft, wiring isn't where designers usually look for weight savings.

But that might also explain the recent problems with the plane.

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@techall You are having a positive day aren't you. Put it all out there for the world to see. I see quite a few Japanese companies listed there, plus quite a few others throughout Asia. FACTS!!! Don't you just love em! Can't really dispute that.

@techall That post is so golden it should be pinned to this website for a while. We are all pretty confident now that one of these 787s will go down soon. It's no longer a question of IF but when. In the aftermath, who will get the lion's share of the blame?

With NTSB, FAA, and ATA's AD that was sent out to all carriers operating 787s Plus....plus the fact the majority of the planes parts were made in Japan. We can safely say that if one of these planes goes down it will NOT be BOEING's fault.

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